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[Jarlof Seoul]

Tempest wrote...

Damn it! Aveline was the only, the ONLY female I REALLY would have enjoyed a romance with. Nothing against Merril (too young) or Isabela (She does not like to stay in one location for long). Aveline just fit that niche that I love about women that I would love to have as a romantic interest....and she is un-romanceable...the pain Bioware...THE PAIN!

Dude! I so agree with you. Aveline was the best potential romance for my Hawke. While she cannot replace Morrigan, she is definitely the next best female character in the DA franchise. I was upset when I figured out she was unromanceable as I avoided spoiler until I finished DA2.

[Zandilar]

Oh my, we can't let this thread slip into oblivion!

@LesEnfantsTerribles - I'm sure it has to do with loyalty. If her loyalty to Hawke (manifested by friendship/rivalry) does not equal or exceed her loyalty to the guard, she'll side with the guard.

[GameBoyish]

Hmmm...


What do you think of Aveline's relationship with Isabela?

Imho, at times it can get really aggressive (The Long Road) but not always, especially towards the end...
(The image above is purely for laughs)

I enjoy watching them argue AND getting along ^^

[Jarlof Seoul]

TriviaAeducan wrote...

Hmmm...


What do you think of Aveline's relationship with Isabela?

Imho, at times it can get really aggressive (The Long Road) but not always, especially towards the end...
(The image above is purely for laughs)

I enjoy watching them argue AND getting along ^^

I just think Aveline is adamantly heterosexual. If Isabela woul kiss her in such a manner, Aveline would probably slap her. Very sexy animation, though. Aveline is a babe. Isabela is nice too, but Aveline is better, in looks and personality.

[GameBoyish]

Yeah, but she does still have "that" conversation with FemHawke post-The Long Road. Something along the lines of "could there have been something between us".

And that image was purely for lolz. I was asking about their relationship in general...

[Jarlof Seoul]

TriviaAeducan wrote...

Yeah, but she does still have "that" conversation with FemHawke post-The Long Road. Something along the lines of "could there have been something between us".

And that image was purely for lolz. I was asking about their relationship in general...

it was good. very good. funny and hot

[Maria Caliban]

Jarlof Seoul wrote...

TriviaAeducan wrote...

Hmmm...


What do you think of Aveline's relationship with Isabela?

Imho, at times it can get really aggressive (The Long Road) but not always, especially towards the end...
(The image above is purely for laughs)

I enjoy watching them argue AND getting along ^^

I just think Aveline is adamantly heterosexual. If Isabela woul kiss her in such a manner, Aveline would probably slap her.

Luke did say that he'd consider the kiss canon if the image ended with her decking Isabela.

I don't think that makes her heterosexual. Many queer women would respond to another woman ninja-kissing them with a slap while many straight women would handle it a different way.

[TobiTobsen]

Aveline is totally into that ninja kiss! Ninja kissing and tongue wrestling! Isabela is Captain Kirk in that gif. Boldly going where no female has gone before!

[Beerfish]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

May I ask you folks a question? I'm curious.

If Aveline's Friendship/Rivalry is not of a certain value, she may leave the party if Hawke sides with the mages, and refuses to assist her during the forthcoming battles. What do you think of her actions, and any hypothetical reasons for her reacting in that manner? Do you believe that it is consistent with her character? Is it a manifestation of her devotion to her subordinates in the city guard? Have you an opinion about the confrontation with Hawke?

As a passionate Aveline fan, I have my own theories and beliefs concerning her actions, but I'm interested in hearing what others may think.

I would say that despite her many run ins with the Templars that it comes down to 'Law and order'.  She looks at both sides, sees the problems with both sides but still sees some form of law and retention of order if the Templars win out and sees more chaos (even if one can justify it as desireable chaos) if the mages win.

Things may not be nice after the Templars win but there should still be some semblance of a chain of command that can be rectified.  If the mages win, probably more uncertainty.  She and the guards may be having to deal with mages if the templars get defeated.

[Zandilar]

Jarlof Seoul wrote...
I just think Aveline is adamantly heterosexual. If Isabela woul kiss her in such a manner, Aveline would probably slap her. Very sexy animation, though. Aveline is a babe. Isabela is nice too, but Aveline is better, in looks and personality.

I find it annoying when people say X must be heterosexual/homosexual because they only ever show interest in opposite sex/same sex.

Believe it or not, it doesn't work that way in real life. Sexuality is far more complex than most people think. A person may not be able to change their sexuality, but you can't judge a fictional character's sexuality by the limited view we would get of them in a game/on tv/in a film/in a book. The only way to know is if the character in question actually SAYS "I'm not into X" or "I'm Y sexuality", and even then it's never a given because the character could be lying, or they might not know otherwise. (The author could say, but even authors can change their mind if it suits the story.) (And this goes for real life too - had someone asked me at age 14 how I identified sexuality wise, I'd have said heterosexual. However, three years later I was identifying as bisexual, and eventually as lesbian... Which is how I still identify, despite being married to a man! (It's a case of if it's you, it's ok, and it isn't without complications/problems. Warning, that link goes to TVtropes, one of the black holes of the internet!)

[Zeevico]

Off topic, but how is it consistent for Aveline to tolerate Hawke committing crimes within the city? Shouldn't she arrest him for, say, breaking and entering?

[Jarlof Seoul]

Zandilar wrote...

Jarlof Seoul wrote...
I just think Aveline is adamantly heterosexual. If Isabela woul kiss her in such a manner, Aveline would probably slap her. Very sexy animation, though. Aveline is a babe. Isabela is nice too, but Aveline is better, in looks and personality.

I find it annoying when people say X must be heterosexual/homosexual because they only ever show interest in opposite sex/same sex.

Believe it or not, it doesn't work that way in real life. Sexuality is far more complex than most people think. A person may not be able to change their sexuality, but you can't judge a fictional character's sexuality by the limited view we would get of them in a game/on tv/in a film/in a book. The only way to know is if the character in question actually SAYS "I'm not into X" or "I'm Y sexuality", and even then it's never a given because the character could be lying, or they might not know otherwise. (The author could say, but even authors can change their mind if it suits the story.) (And this goes for real life too - had someone asked me at age 14 how I identified sexuality wise, I'd have said heterosexual. However, three years later I was identifying as bisexual, and eventually as lesbian... Which is how I still identify, despite being married to a man! (It's a case of if it's you, it's ok, and it isn't without complications/problems. Warning, that link goes to TVtropes, one of the black holes of the internet!)

no offense meant. I admit I am a hetero and love chics. was always like a bull in heat towards them and still am. thus I am guilty of mirror-imaging Aveline. i don't judge differing tastes.

[Bugsie]

I have just started playing DA2 and I have to say that Aveline is by far my favourite companion!

[Maria Caliban]

Zandilar wrote...

...you can't judge a fictional character's sexuality by the limited view we would get of them in a game/on tv/in a film/in a book.

Actually, yes, I can do so.

You might not like the fact that I can do so and you might wish I didn't, but I can most certainly do so.

The only way to know is if the character in question actually SAYS "I'm not into X" or "I'm Y sexuality", and even then it's never a given because the character could be lying, or they might not know otherwise.

If only there were a literary point-of-view that let us experience the thoughts and feelings of a character first hand. Oh wait. There is!

You can only make that claim if you're going to say that no one knows their own sexual orientation under any circumstances.

Seriously, I have three 150K+ novels of Phèdre nó Delaunay engaging in graphic sexual acts with men and women, which she obviously enjoys a great deal. Are you telling me that there's no way to judge if this character is bisexual or not?

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 05 juin 2011 - 01:09 .

[Jarlof Seoul]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Zandilar wrote...

...you can't judge a fictional character's sexuality by the limited view we would get of them in a game/on tv/in a film/in a book.

Actually, yes, I can do so.

You might not like the fact that I can do so and you might wish I didn't, but I can most certainly do so.

The only way to know is if the character in question actually SAYS "I'm not into X" or "I'm Y sexuality", and even then it's never a given because the character could be lying, or they might not know otherwise.

If only there were a literary point-of-view that let us experience the thoughts and feelings of a character first hand. Oh wait. There is!

You can only make that claim if you're going to say that no one knows their own sexual orientation under any circumstances.

Seriously, I have three 150K+ novels of Phèdre nó Delaunay engaging in graphic sexual acts with men and women, which she obviously enjoys a great deal. Are you telling me that there's no way to judge if this character is bisexual or not?

Maria, that's a hot avatar pic you've got. What the story behind it?

[Riona45]

TriviaAeducan wrote...

Hmmm...


What do you think of Aveline's relationship with Isabela?

Imho, at times it can get really aggressive (The Long Road) but not always, especially towards the end...
(The image above is purely for laughs)

I enjoy watching them argue AND getting along ^^

Can i just say how much I love these character-swapping images?

[voidwarrior]

Aveline as Champion.
social.bioware.com/306774/albums/1206076/129384

social.bioware.com/306774/albums/1206076/129385


Would some kind soul please tell me how you get an image to show on the thread instead of having to post links to the image. Thanks in advance.

Modifié par voidwarrior, 07 juin 2011 - 06:28 .

[Jarlof Seoul]

voidwarrior wrote...

Aveline as Champion.
social.bioware.com/306774/albums/1206076/129384

social.bioware.com/306774/albums/1206076/129385


Would some kind soul please tell me how you get an image to show on the thread instead of having to post links to the image. Thanks in advance.

C'mon. Someone computer savvy help our brother voidwarrior out...

[Zjarcal]

voidwarrior wrote...

Aveline as Champion.






Would some kind soul please tell me how you get an image to show on the thread instead of having to post links to the image. Thanks in advance.

There you go. 

Modifié par Zjarcal, 15 juin 2011 - 08:36 .

[Jarlof Seoul]

Zjarcal wrote...

voidwarrior wrote...

Aveline as Champion.






Would some kind soul please tell me how you get an image to show on the thread instead of having to post links to the image. Thanks in advance.

There you go. 

I don't suppose a checklist or word.doc is in order?

[GameBoyish]

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Without the *

[randomcheeses]

So. . . is it just me, or is it kind of awesome that Aveline is such a great character and very-definitely not an LI. Because I see lots of players wishing she was and all I want to say is: but the fact that she's not is part of what makes her great.

Snarky!Hawke can kind of give it a try during her personal quest, but she is just not interested in you.

This to me, is part of what makes her awesome as a female character, especially when playing as Male Hawke. Hawke might have four other people willing to jump him, but Aveline prefers nice guy Donnic, the idea of getting with Hawke never entering her head. She knows what she wants and it's not the PC.

For one of the main female NPCs in an RPG that's pretty unusual.

[Jarlof Seoul]

randomcheeses wrote...

So. . . is it just me, or is it kind of awesome that Aveline is such a great character and very-definitely not an LI. Because I see lots of players wishing she was and all I want to say is: but the fact that she's not is part of what makes her great.

Snarky!Hawke can kind of give it a try during her personal quest, but she is just not interested in you.

This to me, is part of what makes her awesome as a female character, especially when playing as Male Hawke. Hawke might have four other people willing to jump him, but Aveline prefers nice guy Donnic, the idea of getting with Hawke never entering her head. She knows what she wants and it's not the PC.

For one of the main female NPCs in an RPG that's pretty unusual.

yeah. The whole forbidden fruit tactic w/ Aveline strengthened DA2. I agree, if if I would have enjoyed  a romance with Aveline.<_<

[ReiSilver]

my first playthrough in DA2 was a test drive with Lady Hawke on a rented PS3 game. She was a diplomatic/helpful,  archer and just fell head over heels for Aveline, none of the LIs sparked her interest, made Aveline's wing-man quest go from romantic-comedy to utter-heart-break-tragedy, like Hawke just couldn't get Aveline to acknowledge that her flirting wasn't in jest.
Forever Alone.jpg

anyway, doing the dragon age 30 day challenge I got to 14.  Character you wish was a romance option and ended up giving my answer in illustration form: