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[dan107]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...
a) the guitar music in the trailer
the "Spartan" catchphrase
c) not sleeping with Bethany (because that's SOO traditional)
d) profitability goals for BioWare
e) the female gamers enjoying their respective fanservice
f) the FRILLION OTHER THINGS that involve marketing to the largest audience.

Anyone that complains about c is weird, anyone that complains about the rest of them is just an idiot. There, I said it. Seriously who the f*ck cares about a catchphrase or music in a trailer that has nothing to do with the actual game?

[Sphynx118]

Bugzehat wrote...

dudes ITT: the world does not revolve around your penis. thank you and goodnight.

lolwat. How old are you? 12?

Dont bring your woman logic in here

[Mysot_Stormrage]

SirShreK wrote...

Mysot_Stormrage wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

Anarya wrote...

dan107 wrote...

Anarya wrote...
You've said in the past the reason why you guys market your games this way, and I understand it, but always adhering to a male protagonist as the "face" of your games and using female characters pretty much as eye candy only perpetuates this atmosphere.

No, that's not what perpetuates "this atmosphere". The "atmosphere" is what it is because most gamers are men, and most men like our women hot. It's a simple as that. Bioware is just marketing to its audience.

You're really underselling your fellow men here. There's more to the male psyche than just libido.

What is the rest, pray?

Maybe its just me and my mates but we like to read, dicuss favourite philosophical idealogies (I like Nietzschean), and express ourselves.....maybe its cause I'm an arts minor.....but there is more to me than libido.

Aah... Will to power being my favorite what are your thoughts on its connection to utilaterian principles? Does it oppose or accept?

Oddly I have never focused on the Will to Power, rather I took great interest in God is Dead, because I am a strict atheist and believe that we now learn and gain wisdom from science, also the will to power really doesn't flow with my nihlistic nature. In order to follow or really understand the will to power I would have to believe there is something to work towards, there is something worth using the will...but I believe life is largely meaningless and a biological flaw, abstract thoughts limited to humanity that mean nothing in time. We will die and there will be nothing left of us, once our relatives die and time passes even our legacy will be lost. But See! There is more to you than libido! You knew of the Will to Power!

[joriandrake]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Vandrayke wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Vandrayke wrote...

I mean really who would have watched Alias if instead of Jennifer Garner, they had a typical thick 20lb overweight butch cop?  

She's overweight?!

Ha.

Haha.

lol wat?  I might have missed the joke but no I wasn't saying she was overweight at all.  

Vandrayke wrote...

I mean really who would have watched Alias if instead of Jennifer Garner, they had a typical thick 20lb overweight butch cop?  

what is 20lb ?

[Onyx Jaguar]

Its quite a lot of ounces

[Dave of Canada]

Saibh wrote...

He's saying, that would people have watched Alias if they had a "typical" overweight female cop, instead of beautiful Jennifer Garner?

But he's saying it in reference to the pirate lady, so he's comparing the pornstar models vs pirate lady.

[SirShreK]

Bugzehat wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

Aah... Will to power being my favorite what are your thoughts on its connection to utilaterian principles? Does it oppose or accept?

Hah. Please, I know it's off-topic, but can this thread be Nietzschechat from now on? It'd be a lot better than what it is right now.

Well...

You know the answer why it CAN'T be...

[Saibh]

joriandrake wrote...

what is 20lb ?

Twenty pounds.

[Danjaru]

joriandrake wrote...

what is 20lb ?

20 pounds. Around 9 kg

[Apollo Starflare]

Schneidend wrote...

I think she's quite attractive. But, I'd rather see a female dwarf romance in DA2. I totally want that horned dude's axe as a weapon for my Hawke, though.

Yeah likewise, I mean there is no reason there can't be both though. I just see no reason why a romance in a computer game of all things has to be ruled by height, not to mention Dwarves are just awesome.

David Gaider wrote...

I know you people will dissect any old information that comes along,
even the blurriest of pictures-- but wow. Sometimes I am still surprised
by the internet. Time to avert my gaze, I think.

Seriously can't blame you. Kudos for trying though!

VittoriaLandis wrote...

dan107 wrote...
Oh get a room you two.

Don't hate! [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/policeman.png[/smilie]

[Sable Rhapsody]

SirShreK wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

dan107 wrote...

Anarya wrote...
You're really underselling your fellow men here. There's more to the male psyche than just libido.

There are 3 major parts to the human psyche. Physical, emotional, and intellectual. In men the physical part is ridiculously easy to hit. Just slap a pair of ****** on top of a long pair of legs and you're done. That's not to say that you shouldn't try to make a character that will appeal to emotions and intelligence, but why not take the easy lay-up and make her attractive as well?

Neuroscience fail.  But that's another story.  Suffice to say that the differences between genders, while statistically significant, is less than difference within genders.

Women like physical attractiveness, intelligence, and emotional warmth.  Men like the same things in their relationships.  Shocking, really.

I checked your blog (nice) ages ago.. But he is talking about Psychology... So unless you do Neuropsychology too....

The two fields are related, and my school's approach to neuroscience is highly interdisciplinary.  So yes, I do neuropsychology too.  And thanks 

Anyway, back on topic.  Whatever the topic was--ah, yes.  How some of us demand that Hawke's LIs conform to ridiculous standards of beauty.  Well, there's a couple solutions for that.

1) Play Bayonetta, which I loved for how fun it was, and its unashamedly bold fanservice
2) Mods.  Dear god some of the mods on DANexus make me want to scour my eyeballs.

[joriandrake]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Its quite a lot of ounces

?

[SirShreK]

Mysot_Stormrage wrote...
Oddly I have never focused on the Will to Power, rather I took great interest in God is Dead, because I am a strict atheist and believe that we now learn and gain wisdom from science, also the will to power really doesn't flow with my nihlistic nature. In order to follow or really understand the will to power I would have to believe there is something to work towards, there is something worth using the will...but I believe life is largely meaningless and a biological flaw, abstract thoughts limited to humanity that mean nothing in time. We will die and there will be nothing left of us, once our relatives die and time passes even our legacy will be lost. But See! There is more to you than libido! You knew of the Will to Power!

DUH!!!!!

This conversation is dead dude. Ages ago..

[Onyx Jaguar]

Its a gigantic amount of grams

[Sphynx118]

Saibh wrote...

DraCZeQQ wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...
"Realistic women"

thats just ... either you dont find attractive cute smart girls with personality "realistic" ... or you claim that "realistic" women are ugly by default ... or what do you wanna say with "realistic" woman?

not to mention this is a GAME, fantasy world, its a fantasy for people to get OUT of "real" life and ENJOY it

and what you describe is ...

1. That woman isn't ugly. People are requesting a porn star. That's not realistic.

2. There's a difference between a game in a fantasy setting and your own personal fantasy tool. Not saying that's what you want, but there it is.

1. Yes she sure as hell is if you are a healthy male/sane female.

No one was requesting a pornstar. We want a girl who looks normal without the down syndrome

[dan107]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...
Neuroscience fail.  But that's another story.  Suffice to say that the differences between genders, while statistically significant, is less than difference within genders.

Women like physical attractiveness, intelligence, and emotional warmth.  Men like the same things in their relationships.  Shocking, really.

I'm not about to launch into an indepth discussion here, but if you doubt that the human mind can be roughly broken up into 3 parts - emotional, logical, and instinctive you need to read up a little more.

Secondly, yes everyone likes attractiveness, intelligence, and emotional warmth. Attractiveness is by far the easiest to implement in a game. So why not make all the romances as visually attractive as possible? The rest doesn't have to suffer as a result in the slightest.

[joriandrake]

Danjaru wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

what is 20lb ?

20 pounds. Around 9 kg

ah, weight measure, puond is in short lb, got it (why lb, those are not even letters from "pound")


and did he seriously say 9 kg is overweight?

is that not absurd? I mean, human bones alone probably weight more than that

[joey_mork84]

Sphynx118 wrote...

Bugzehat wrote...

dudes ITT: the world does not revolve around your penis. thank you and goodnight.

lolwat. How old are you? 12?

Dont bring your woman logic in here

Yea, I wouldn't have phrased it quite like that.. Although, the "world doesn't revolve around your penis" thing is about as old and overused as the "you don't have babies so I don't want to hear you complain" thing.. But that's coming from a dad who has to hear those about a dozen times a day..

[Saibh]

Sphynx118 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

DraCZeQQ wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...
"Realistic women"

thats just ... either you dont find attractive cute smart girls with personality "realistic" ... or you claim that "realistic" women are ugly by default ... or what do you wanna say with "realistic" woman?

not to mention this is a GAME, fantasy world, its a fantasy for people to get OUT of "real" life and ENJOY it

and what you describe is ...

1. That woman isn't ugly. People are requesting a porn star. That's not realistic.

2. There's a difference between a game in a fantasy setting and your own personal fantasy tool. Not saying that's what you want, but there it is.

1. Yes she sure as hell is if you are a healthy male/sane female.

No one was requesting a pornstar. We want a girl who looks normal without the down syndrome

Have fun with those standards. I'm sure they'll get you far in life.




You disgust me, you Down syndrome freak.

Right. That angle of her front face wasn't particularly flattering, but she's not ugly.

Modifié par Saibh, 17 août 2010 - 11:29 .

[krimesh]

Sphynx118 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

DraCZeQQ wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...
"Realistic women"

thats just ... either you dont find attractive cute smart girls with personality "realistic" ... or you claim that "realistic" women are ugly by default ... or what do you wanna say with "realistic" woman?

not to mention this is a GAME, fantasy world, its a fantasy for people to get OUT of "real" life and ENJOY it

and what you describe is ...

1. That woman isn't ugly. People are requesting a porn star. That's not realistic.

2. There's a difference between a game in a fantasy setting and your own personal fantasy tool. Not saying that's what you want, but there it is.

1. Yes she sure as hell is if you are a healthy male/sane female.

No one was requesting a pornstar. We want a girl who looks normal without the down syndrome

Sorry, but are you saying that she does not look "normal" on the picture on the first page of this thread?

[Mysot_Stormrage]

SirShreK wrote...

Mysot_Stormrage wrote...
Oddly I have never focused on the Will to Power, rather I took great interest in God is Dead, because I am a strict atheist and believe that we now learn and gain wisdom from science, also the will to power really doesn't flow with my nihlistic nature. In order to follow or really understand the will to power I would have to believe there is something to work towards, there is something worth using the will...but I believe life is largely meaningless and a biological flaw, abstract thoughts limited to humanity that mean nothing in time. We will die and there will be nothing left of us, once our relatives die and time passes even our legacy will be lost. But See! There is more to you than libido! You knew of the Will to Power!

DUH!!!!!

This conversation is dead dude. Ages ago..

Hehe, it is pretty redundant isn't it

[Fishy]

She's Far from ugly.
Anyway .. She got curve and big muchafoo

Modifié par Suprez30, 17 août 2010 - 11:31 .

[dan107]

Saibh wrote...
1. That woman isn't ugly. People are requesting a porn star. That's not realistic.

We're not requesting a porn star, we're requesting a woman that LOOKS like a porn star. She doesn't have to be stupid or a wh*re (not all beautiful women are you know).

Secondly, it's not exactly realistic to become the most important man in the world either. But if you're willing to accept that premise, then it's perfectly logical that a man like that would be surrounded by the most beautiful women in the world.

Modifié par dan107, 17 août 2010 - 11:31 .

[Saibh]

joriandrake wrote...

Danjaru wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

what is 20lb ?

20 pounds. Around 9 kg

ah, weight measure, puond is in short lb, got it (why lb, those are not even letters from "pound")


and did he seriously say 9 kg is overweight?

is that not absurd? I mean, human bones alone probably weight more than that

It's short for libra pondo, which is pound weight in Latin.

[DraCZeQQ]

Saibh wrote...

Have fun with those standards. I'm sure they'll get you far in life.

a) what does a real life preferences have to fo with game/fantasies preferences
im doing pretty well, ty for asking ... but mixing real life and internet isnt good idea, trust me ;-)