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[UberDuber]

Xalena wrote...

JasonPogo wrote...

Hawke's kissy girl is ugly.Sorry it had to be said...

F*ck that! I dont need your salty treasure.

[DraCZeQQ]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Hawke looks like Nathan Drake from Uncharted if thats what you mean

the blonde reporter was cute 

[pizoxuat]

Her face has character, and I will always, always take character over an airbrushed magazine cover aesthetic.

Modifié par pizoxuat, 17 août 2010 - 11:43 .

[ankuu]

krimesh wrote...

I have yet to see a pic where she looks truly ugly..

Spot on! She is not truly ugly in no screenshot. And let's not forget how Morrigan looked in the SA video >< she was NOT pretty! But she ended up quite well. While Leliana was beautiful in the SA video but fugly in the game.

I am talking based on my likings and without MODS!

Modifié par ankuu, 17 août 2010 - 11:42 .

[Mysot_Stormrage]

Vandrayke wrote...

meh whatever I think she looks great

Yep, really I don't see what looks so bad about her......

[Sphynx118]

UberDuber wrote...

Xalena wrote...

JasonPogo wrote...

Hawke's kissy girl is ugly.Sorry it had to be said...

F*ck that! I dont need your salty treasure.

Keep your gypsy crap lady..erm..man?

[dan107]

elearon1 wrote...
So, what, are we all going to start pulling out degrees here?  I *do* have mine in psychology ...

Yeah well, MY penis is bigge... oh, wait you said degrees? Sorry.

And, really, since the vast majority of people do respond well to physical beauty this is an easy way to help establish the baseline for relationships in a game.  Especially since, typically, people are more likely to assume an attractive individual will also be more capable and charismatic, if you want to make a character immediately appealing beauty is your best bet.

That's pretty much exactly what I said. Again beauty and any other kind of appeal do not have to be mutually exclusive.

[SirShreK]

dan107 wrote...

Saibh wrote...
But we are playing the most important man in the world--his life story. Would you say it's unrealistic for a woman to defeat the Spanish Armada? If we played Elizabeth I's life, that's what we'd do. We're playing Hawke's life.

Elizabeth I didn't defeat the Spanish Armada, her sailors and bad weather did. Just so you know. But that's irrelevant.

Why nobody mentiones Sir Francis Ladykiller Drake??? He was a pirate to boot!

EDIT: Nathan Drake IS his descendent.

Modifié par SirShreK, 17 août 2010 - 11:48 .

[dan107]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...
 And I'd be a baldfaced liar if I said I didn't enjoy fanservice for the ladies.  But I don't think it's the most important part of RPG characters.  People continue to obsess over Morrigan not because of her looks, but because she hit an emotional nerve and left them hanging.

It's not the most important part, but it's an important part, and one that's ridiculously easy to implement. It takes exactly 0 additional effort to make an attractive woman vs. an average one. So why not do so?

[Sphynx118]

SirShreK wrote...

dan107 wrote...

Saibh wrote...
But we are playing the most important man in the world--his life story. Would you say it's unrealistic for a woman to defeat the Spanish Armada? If we played Elizabeth I's life, that's what we'd do. We're playing Hawke's life.

Elizabeth I didn't defeat the Spanish Armada, her sailors and bad weather did. Just so you know. But that's irrelevant.

Why nobody mentiones Sir Francis Ladykiller Drake??? He was a pirate to boot!

Who the hell is this person and where can i hire him to kill the fugly busted up pirate lady

[Saibh]

dan107 wrote...

Saibh wrote...
But we are playing the most important man in the world--his life story. Would you say it's unrealistic for a woman to defeat the Spanish Armada? If we played Elizabeth I's life, that's what we'd do. We're playing Hawke's life.

Elizabeth I didn't defeat the Spanish Armada, her sailors and bad weather did. Just so you know. But that's irrelevant.

Joan of Arc if it makes you happier. Nelson Mandela and apartheid, Napoleon conquering Europe, Alexander, Caligula...there will always be famous people doing famous thing.

EDIT: Also, none of those people did it alone--and I'm sure you get companions, don't you? The Warden needed his armies as well.

In the real world you have gorgeous women hanging off every two bit rapper and dime store actor. Are you saying that it's unrealistic for the most important man in the world to have his pick of women? Ever hear of harems and concubines and so forth?

Besides it being ridiculously objectifying, and I think BioWare can be more intelligent than that, my issue isn't that these women exist, it's the claim that your companions should be like them. I assume pirate chick is a companion.

Modifié par Saibh, 17 août 2010 - 11:48 .

[joey_mork84]

ankuu wrote...

krimesh wrote...

I have yet to see a pic where she looks truly ugly..

Spot on! She is not truly ugly in no screenshot. And let's not forget how Morrigan looked in the SA video >< she was NOT pretty! But she ended up quite well. While Leliana was beautiful in the SA video but fugly in the game.

I am talking based on my likings and without MODS!

Have to respectfully disagree here.. About Leliana being 'fugly' in game. She was, by far, my favorite character in the game, for both her personality and her looks (which were fantastic, btw). And that's without mods as well. But that's just my opinion (and I'm a bit biased since I have an infatuation with red heads ).

[Chuvvy]

Gypsy Queen.

[Ziggy]

I wish we could see pictures of what the people saying she's so ugly look like. It'd only be fair really.

[Sphynx118]

dan107 wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...
 And I'd be a baldfaced liar if I said I didn't enjoy fanservice for the ladies.  But I don't think it's the most important part of RPG characters.  People continue to obsess over Morrigan not because of her looks, but because she hit an emotional nerve and left them hanging.

It's not the most important part, but it's an important part, and one that's ridiculously easy to implement. It takes exactly 0 additional effort to make an attractive woman vs. an average one. So why not do so?

The femmies,fatties and weirdoes says no

[Aedan_Cousland]

Saibh wrote...

SirShreK wrote...


@saibh:
errr... Don't you mean Sir Francis Drake?

...

What?

Sir Francis Drake was Vice Admiral of the English fleet and played a key role in the defeat of the Spanish Armada.

Elizabeth was monarch, but she didn't sink the Spanish ships. I think that was what he was getting at.

But I definitely understand your point.

Modifié par Aedan_Cousland, 17 août 2010 - 11:50 .

[Xalena]

Sphynx118 wrote...

UberDuber wrote...

Xalena wrote...

JasonPogo wrote...

Hawke's kissy girl is ugly.Sorry it had to be said...

*picture*

F*ck that! I dont need your salty treasure.

Keep your gypsy crap lady..erm..man?

Then her pet wants to have few words with you two )))...You are so meeeannnnn (((!!!!

[dan107]

Saibh wrote...
Besides it being ridiculously objectifying, and I think BioWare can be more intelligent than that, my issue isn't that these women exist, it's the claim that your companions should be like them. I assume pirate chick is a companion.

Again, I'm talking purely about appearance here. They don't have to lose any other personality traits that you find appealing. Repeat after me: ATTRACTIVE DOES NOT EQUAL SHALLOW OR STUPID. I don't understand why that's so difficult for some people to grasp here.

[Sphynx118]

Em23 wrote...

I wish we could see pictures of what the people saying she's so ugly look like. It'd only be fair really.

Look in the thread? Its posted several times

[SirShreK]

Saibh wrote...
Besides it being ridiculously objectifying, and I think BioWare can be more intelligent than that, my issue isn't that these women exist, it's the claim that your companions should be like them. I assume pirate chick is a companion.

Why the hell not???

The pirate lady (cute I agree, but well... ) is a possible LI (David Gaider).

[elearon1]

>>The basis of cognitive neuroscience is that the mind is what the brain does. If you're a monist and a scientific thinker, it follows that the underpinnings the mind are fundamentally the same thing--neural patterns<<



Yet there is nothing simple or straight forward about this. There is so much we are still learning and do not yet know in the field that most assertions boil down to theory and speculation. The study of Psychopathology breaks behavior into Physical, Social and Psychological influences, each of which effects the mind/body dynamic. Brain chemistry only accounts for a percentage of what influences behavior. But, bah, this is seriously the stuff of lengthy essays filled with statistical and observable evidence, and has nothing to do with DA2.

[dan107]

Sphynx118 wrote...

dan107 wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...
 And I'd be a baldfaced liar if I said I didn't enjoy fanservice for the ladies.  But I don't think it's the most important part of RPG characters.  People continue to obsess over Morrigan not because of her looks, but because she hit an emotional nerve and left them hanging.

It's not the most important part, but it's an important part, and one that's ridiculously easy to implement. It takes exactly 0 additional effort to make an attractive woman vs. an average one. So why not do so?

The femmies,fatties and weirdoes says no

So f*ck em. Problem solved.

[Saibh]

Sphynx118 wrote...

How is a shot of her 2m away with mist in her face a good angle? Or a shoot of her cheek?

And no she is not pretty by a long shot  
Kinda hard to make someone ugly while they are standing in a mist cloud/ not even looking at the camera

I don't know, I think I can see her face pretty well.

Modifié par Saibh, 17 août 2010 - 11:52 .

[Sphynx118]

dan107 wrote...

Saibh wrote...
Besides it being ridiculously objectifying, and I think BioWare can be more intelligent than that, my issue isn't that these women exist, it's the claim that your companions should be like them. I assume pirate chick is a companion.

Again, I'm talking purely about appearance here. They don't have to lose any other personality traits that you find appealing. Repeat after me: ATTRACTIVE DOES NOT EQUAL SHALLOW OR STUPID. I don't understand why that's so difficult for some people to grasp here.

Its the work of the feminists i tell ya! Their master plan is to keep making people believe that a hot women cant possibly be smart aswell. 
Only ugly women can be smart i.e The feminists themselves

Modifié par Sphynx118, 17 août 2010 - 11:53 .

[Ziggy]

Sphynx118 wrote...

Em23 wrote...
I wish we could see pictures of what the people saying she's so ugly look like. It'd only be fair really.

Look in the thread? Its posted several times

Not pictures of her (of which there are plenty), but the pictures of the people in this thread criticising her. It'd be interesting to be able to judge them too.