If the whole galaxy was at stake, the hero should be focused on saving it. Spending time/resources and risking your life doing out-of-the-way sidequests with good deeds here which doesn't help you progress any closer in the main mission and there are only for unfocused heros.
Only unfocused Shepards do sidequests
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Eddo36
, août 17 2010 07:54
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Posté 17 août 2010 - 08:37
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I think that's the reason why Bioware allowed people to do them afterwards as it makes more sense from a roleplay perspective.
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Posté 17 août 2010 - 09:33
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Yea or seeing as your Shep may never come back from the Omega 4 Realy since no one but the collectors have, Maybe you want to live a little,see more of the galaxy before you go... But after I beat the game for the first time,and all of my crew had been harvested, I tend to agree with you lol.
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Posté 17 août 2010 - 09:36
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Eddo36 wrote...
If the whole galaxy was at stake, the hero should be focused on saving it. Spending time/resources and risking your life doing out-of-the-way sidequests with good deeds here which doesn't help you progress any closer in the main mission and there are only for unfocused heros.
It's a game. I like to get the most out of my game so I sure am going to play the sidequests.
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Posté 17 août 2010 - 09:40
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It has been said that everyone should live as if they'll die tomorrow.
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Posté 17 août 2010 - 09:55
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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...
It has been said that everyone should live as if they'll die tomorrow.
But if I did that I'd be a wanted criminal.
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Posté 17 août 2010 - 09:56
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I agree. I always hate when I am forced to do sidequests during the main mission/story. I thought that was one of the biggest improvements from ME1, to be honest.
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Posté 17 août 2010 - 09:59
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One of the most commonly reported problems with ME's plot is how it gives you a heavy sense of urgency, to the point where doing sidequests seems entirely unnecessary and out of place. This was especially noticeable in ME1.TheGreyGhost119 wrote...
I agree. I always hate when I am forced to do sidequests during the main mission/story. I thought that was one of the biggest improvements from ME1, to be honest.
I actually remember a thread posted not too long ago in which people asked for ME3's plot to feel less urgent.
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Posté 17 août 2010 - 10:02
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Well TIM doesn't fund you that well. So you have to go out and solve other people's problems for credits, guns, and experience.
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Posté 17 août 2010 - 10:05
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Well TIM doesn't fund you that well. So you have to go out and solve other people's problems for credits, guns, and experience.
Yeah it's amazing the amount of people who hide credits inside medi-gel packs.
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Posté 17 août 2010 - 10:06
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ReconTeam wrote...
Well TIM doesn't fund you that well. So you have to go out and solve other people's problems for credits, guns, and experience.
Yeah it's amazing the amount of people who hide credits inside medi-gel packs.
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Posté 17 août 2010 - 10:13
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In all of my different shepards I always take the time to go out and do all of the side quests and all of the DLCS i have ( I have all of the DLC's except for the shadow broker one). I even do all the scanning - I'm probably the only one who has no problem with scanning.
once I get the quest to go to the derelict reaper I completely ignore and I go around and make sure that I've done all the quests including side ones all of the upgrades i can get, I also make sure that I have all of the ship upgrades.
I guess you could say that I'm a completionst I have to have everything, all items all acheivments do all quests etc, I'm like that with every game
once I get the quest to go to the derelict reaper I completely ignore and I go around and make sure that I've done all the quests including side ones all of the upgrades i can get, I also make sure that I have all of the ship upgrades.
I guess you could say that I'm a completionst I have to have everything, all items all acheivments do all quests etc, I'm like that with every game
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Posté 17 août 2010 - 10:21
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I too am a rabid completionest, i like to know that i have everything i could possibly do, done, before i take on the final mission in any rpg
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Posté 17 août 2010 - 10:22
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Eddo36 wrote...
If the whole galaxy was at stake, the hero should be focused on saving it. Spending time/resources and risking your life doing out-of-the-way sidequests with good deeds here which doesn't help you progress any closer in the main mission and there are only for unfocused heros.
Your against Side-quests?
May I ask you something?
Could it be, that you haven't played a single RPG aside from Mass Effet/2?
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Posté 17 août 2010 - 11:02
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It makes sense in ME2 that Shepard does side since she's literally waiting for something to happen. Those somethings are Horizon and the Collector Ship. Shepard has time to mine and deal with reant merc bands. I agree for ME1 though.
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Posté 17 août 2010 - 11:27
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The first time I played ME1 I didn't do hardly any side quests because the "A Race Against Time" main quest had me thinking not to let Saren get more than one step ahead of me.
I like side quests though, and lots of them. ME2 didn't feel as urgent as ME1, so the side quests felt a bit more approachable to me during first playthrough.
I like side quests though, and lots of them. ME2 didn't feel as urgent as ME1, so the side quests felt a bit more approachable to me during first playthrough.
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Posté 17 août 2010 - 11:39
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Homey C-Dawg wrote...
The first time I played ME1 I didn't do hardly any side quests because the "A Race Against Time" main quest had me thinking not to let Saren get more than one step ahead of me.
I like side quests though, and lots of them. ME2 didn't feel as urgent as ME1, so the side quests felt a bit more approachable to me during first playthrough.
You thought there was a Race against Time? I didn't feel that way at all. Even if there was a game where you were supposed to race against time I would intentionally take my sweet time to go around help people or not.
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Posté 17 août 2010 - 11:41
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At least in ME2 the sidequests do not bother me. As others pointed out, Shepard waits for something to happen, before a move can be made.
What bothers me is the fact, that we are supposed to open every wall safe in order to get our money. I am especially upset about the one in the human appartment (the couple you can convince to go to the clinic) in Mordin's recruitment. I mean you can practically steal all their money just in fron of them and they don't even complain.
Acquiring money by stealing/hacking ... that bothers me in ME2. We should be able to make enough money by quest rewards without the need to resort to act like a criminal.
What bothers me is the fact, that we are supposed to open every wall safe in order to get our money. I am especially upset about the one in the human appartment (the couple you can convince to go to the clinic) in Mordin's recruitment. I mean you can practically steal all their money just in fron of them and they don't even complain.
Acquiring money by stealing/hacking ... that bothers me in ME2. We should be able to make enough money by quest rewards without the need to resort to act like a criminal.
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Posté 17 août 2010 - 11:52
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Kacynski wrote...
At least in ME2 the sidequests do not bother me. As others pointed out, Shepard waits for something to happen, before a move can be made.
What bothers me is the fact, that we are supposed to open every wall safe in order to get our money. I am especially upset about the one in the human appartment (the couple you can convince to go to the clinic) in Mordin's recruitment. I mean you can practically steal all their money just in fron of them and they don't even complain.
Acquiring money by stealing/hacking ... that bothers me in ME2. We should be able to make enough money by quest rewards without the need to resort to act like a criminal.
I can see where someone has a problem with that, but to me it doesn't even bother me at all
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Posté 18 août 2010 - 12:02
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the issue is, bar the crew abduction, their is no forced sense of urgency to do anything really. It's always been like this in Bioware RPGs.
Like take BG2, some of the side quests were really deep, and a lot of fun, but I was always thinking 'Jee, I really would like to help you with your problem and all, but you see this guy right, has my god derived soul, and is poised to do unspeakable evil with it unless I actually stop him, oh yeah and I'll die without it, so best be on my way. Chin chin.'
If Bioware were to adopt a more do this/exclude that style of gameplay that you see in the Witcher, then they'd make the game choices have some real gameplay crunch, instead of the current fluff we get.
However, that's not for everyone, and some people don't like making choices (in a game).
Like take BG2, some of the side quests were really deep, and a lot of fun, but I was always thinking 'Jee, I really would like to help you with your problem and all, but you see this guy right, has my god derived soul, and is poised to do unspeakable evil with it unless I actually stop him, oh yeah and I'll die without it, so best be on my way. Chin chin.'
If Bioware were to adopt a more do this/exclude that style of gameplay that you see in the Witcher, then they'd make the game choices have some real gameplay crunch, instead of the current fluff we get.
However, that's not for everyone, and some people don't like making choices (in a game).
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Posté 18 août 2010 - 12:46
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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...
One of the most commonly reported problems with ME's plot is how it gives you a heavy sense of urgency, to the point where doing sidequests seems entirely unnecessary and out of place. This was especially noticeable in ME1.TheGreyGhost119 wrote...
I agree. I always hate when I am forced to do sidequests during the main mission/story. I thought that was one of the biggest improvements from ME1, to be honest.
I actually remember a thread posted not too long ago in which people asked for ME3's plot to feel less urgent.
Now that would be hilarious!
Shepard: All right team, the Reapers are on their way, and it's up to us to stop them. Now, at the end of the last game some people say they were about 7 years away. This game took two years to develop so that leaves us with 5. Anybody got any daddy issues you'd like to take care of?
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Posté 18 août 2010 - 02:22
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BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...
Eddo36 wrote...
If the whole galaxy was at stake, the hero should be focused on saving it. Spending time/resources and risking your life doing out-of-the-way sidequests with good deeds here which doesn't help you progress any closer in the main mission and there are only for unfocused heros.
Your against Side-quests?
May I ask you something?
Could it be, that you haven't played a single RPG aside from Mass Effet/2?
I'm not against side-quests. Infact, I always do them. HOWEVER, I was just stating that doing side-quests makes your Shepard unfocused to the real important galaxy-saving mission.
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Posté 18 août 2010 - 02:27
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My Shepard doesn't get the tip about Virmire until she has done most of the sidequests; in the meantime, she's searching for Saren. So no, she's very focused on the real important galaxy-saving mission.
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Posté 18 août 2010 - 03:18
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Not when the side-quest doesn't have anything to do with the main quest and you're doing something some regular soldier/civilian can do instead of using your unique talents to save the galaxy, which no one else can do.
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