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[GhostOfGod]

I've been noticing in many post lately where people will mention things like "Just go buy the game. It's only like $10." or "Some stores still carry it but if you can't find one in the store then just buy one online for like $15."

Well i decided recently to buy a second copy of the game for my kid and discovered something a bit scary.

I don't want to start a panic or anything:O but:

-I don't think any stores still carry the game brand new.
-You will most likely want to buy the Platinum, Diamond, or Deluxe(UK version) version of the game so that you get all 3(main and 2 expansions). And you will want a brandnew copy so that you don't get stuck with stolen, used or invalid CD keys. However most online stores that were offering the game for under $30 are sold out or have it on backorder.
-I found a brandnew Diamond copy that cost me about $40 after shipping. And it was one of 3 available.
-The game is not available in any kind of digital download either.(my search turned up nothing)

I guess what I'm trying to say is that  Neverwinter Nights is getting very hard to find brand new. And if you do find one brand new it is now closer to $40 with shipping. In some cases people are selling it for as much as $60 used.

I just figured I'd bring this to the attention of this community in case anyone wants another copy for whatever reason but has been putting it off. I think if anyone wants a copy they better grab one really soon.

And who knows if they will ever re-release the game in some other edition later.

Anyway. Just figured I'd throw that out there. Good luck.

Modifié par GhostOfGod, 17 août 2010 - 11:49 .

[MingWolf]

I've noticed that too, and can't find any more copies at the my local game stores. It'd be nice to see a re-release of the game or a digital distribution of it, but if I'm not mistaken, theres some legal mumble jumble for some absurd reason that is in the way.

[Tarot Redhand]

Here in the UK I can still go into our local supermarket and buy the deluxe edition on a budget lable for less than 10ukp. What I find scary is that it isn't sold on a budget lable in the usa (does that country have budget lables?), at least according to amazon.com which I just checked in the middle of writing this.



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[TSMDude]

Just did a small search nothing major and these sites popped up as for sale with copies;



http://www.shared2u....nd-edition.html



http://www.bestbuy.c...reInventoryLink



http://www.amazon.co...p_ob_vg_title_1



Also typing it into craigslist I came up with 147 links JUST today.



http://spacecoast.cr...1898966774.html



http://inlandempire....1875350541.html



Some places I also found them at Thrift Stores and resell shops.

[GhostOfGod]

Hey there TSMDude.

Sure there are plenty of used versions and perhaps a few torrents. I was referring to unused, brand new, legal copies though. Otherwise people might run into the CD Key problems. Which leaves your third link as the best option. Which has only five copies starting at $33.

Your second link shows what i was talking about. $19.99 Backordered.
when I think of buying something from craiglist I imagine one of those rogue shop in game. Never know what you are getting yourself into.

UK Deluxe version is probably the cheapest option. I hope there aren't any CD/DVD Drive region issues though.

Modifié par GhostOfGod, 18 août 2010 - 02:04 .

[spool32]

Amazon seems to be just about the only place you can reliably get the game anymore. Since 1.69 you no longer need the disks... it'd be wonderful if Bioware would begin selling valid keys through this site. Most of us in the PW scene could ramp up something to provide the game ISOs, if valid keys were available for purchase.

[Darkfire_Avlis]

I would absolutely love if Atari sold digital copies of NWN through online means such as Steam, Goodoldgames (GOG), or any other online distributors. It would save the hassle of trying to find physical copies of the game which as we all know, is growing increasingly difficult to do.

Modifié par Darkfire_Avlis, 18 août 2010 - 08:06 .

[Genisys]

Let me be frank here, candid even, bioware permitting...

It would be a travesty not to re-release this game...

First and foremost, this game has morphed into something NO OTHER GAME OFFERS>>>!!!!

NWN is without a doubt the best damn RPG ever made, for 3 major reasons..

1) Community Content is 2nd to none!
2) Though graphics aren't stellar - SOME modules are a piece of ART!!!
3) The game is 1000 Times what it was when it was first released!!!

If they were to re-release the game, give it a new packaging, and maybe fix some major issues with the game, it should automatically be 1.69 in the new release, and finally make it windows 7 compatible out of the box with multi-core processing, even I would be willing to pay $50 for the game again, no bs about it!

Even if they aren't willing to rework coding and revise the core code to be more up to date, I think they would do the world a HUGE favor by re-releasing the game, because NWN is just too damn good to be forgotten... (Those aren't fanboy words, that's a fact jack!)

Because it's a Forgotten Realms Game which expands deep into the heart of many other systems and worlds, no other game compares to the depth of NWN, period...

So why not put the game back on the shelves?? ((No It's NOT there anymore.)

Modifié par Genisys, 18 août 2010 - 11:56 .

[Albert23]

By the way, is it still possible to buy NWN 1 premium modules? I'd like to try Infinite Dungeons, but I really can't find it anywhere.

[Genisys]

I think it's the lack of talk/replies from the big "Bioware Team" that has me scared...

[Eradrain]

Premium Mods are no longer for sale.



You can get used, but unopened copies of the game on Ebay/amazon for like 10 dollars.

[Bannor Bloodfist]

Genisys, Bioware has no way to re-release nwn. Atari has full publishing rights, other than the fact that Atari would have to pay Bioware some sort of per copy monies depending on how good their contract was with Atari. Regardless of how much they could make, Atari would also have to wish to publish, and they have proven over and over again, how little they think of the community around here.



If you read the posts on their forums, they seldom even provide tech support, and seldom answer any questions even on games that are currently being sold.



I would also expect that they would have to re-negotiate with WotC regarding releasing any new versions of NWN, even just remaking the same old versions etc... Since they are in the middle of a lawsuit with . WotC, you can expect that "permission denied" would be the answer.



So, beyond the above, expecting Bioware to weigh in here and state something that they have already stated many times since Atari pulled the rug out from under them, is sort of a waste of time and typing.



Whatever remains on store shelves, or inventory can be sold, but nothing more can be produced without significant influx of money for that production, and whatever licensing fees WotC and/or Bioware would require. Since Atari is nearly bankrupt, they can't be expected to garner much faith money from financial institutions to even cover the production costs of a re-release.



This whole thing has been discussed, and beaten to death, for the past 3 years. Please let it die.

[MingWolf]

The gaming world would be a much better place without the whole corporate fanaticism of lawsuit this, lawsuit that; I'm not going to release this because I want to promote that; copyrights belong to whos and whatnots; permissions; negotiations; making big bucks; and so on and so on.



Here we have a piece of art buried beneath a pile of money and white collared egotism that shall, perhaps, one day, fade away and be forgotten over time.

[Genisys]

I'm sorry I must have had my head buried in the sand somehwere... (Like building a module I guess)

This is all news to me...

lol...

I suppose if I was atari, I'd sell my rights, AND FAST....  (If my business was going under)
(Did you notice I spelled atari without the Capital haha, as in money?)

Back on Subject, I think I saw a copy of NWN Diamond at Micro Center (The Major Computer Store)

Modifié par Genisys, 19 août 2010 - 05:38 .

[AndarianTD]

Agree with Bannor. It's not so much Bioware that pulled the rug out from under NWN, but Atari. They're the ones who own NWN's publishing rights. Bioware gave NWN unprecedented support for many years.

@ the OP: I've been getting copies of NWN Diamond at Amazon for $15-20 for a long time. Last time I checked was a few months ago. I just checked again and it's up to $32.95. That's the first time in years that I've actually seen the price go up.

Modifié par AndarianTD, 19 août 2010 - 05:36 .

[B_Harrison]

AndarianTD wrote...

Agree with Bannor. It's not so much Bioware that pulled the rug out from under NWN, but Atari. They're the ones who own NWN's publishing rights. Bioware gave NWN unprecedented support for many years.

This.

For anyone in the UK, Neverwinter Nights Deluxe Edition (DVD) is currently available on Amazon for £2.49(!).

[Eradrain]

Are you sure Atari's currently in a lawsuit with WotC?



I mean, they've practically announced the next NWN game (They announced an unnamed MMO project and simultaneously registered a bunch of web domains with the word Neverwinter in them).



Seems weird for them to be going full-steam ahead on the franchise if they're on the verge of financial collapse and in the middle of a lawsuit with the IP owner.

[Genisys]

As far as what Eradrain is talking about, man I sure hope your correct about that!

DO YOU HAVE A SOURCE?????  (IF not, then we have to disregard your post)

Nevertheless, let's look at some fast facts...

TSR > owned by WOTC > owned by HASBRO...  (Mostly Card / Book / & Board Games)

Bioware Independent Corporation (of Computer Software Games)

Atari (Formely Known for the Atari Gaming Console, now a Gaming Software Maker As Well)

Then of course there was Also Floodgate Entertainment, don't know who they are or where they come in...

But when 4 Business (6 really), come together to do something, in the interest of all parties involved contracts are drawn up BEFORE that something happens...

Secondly WOTC / TSR / Hasbro (e.g. 3 companies in 1) have exclusive rights to ANYTHING that pertains to D&D, therefore, despite Atari, who may have rights to make NWN 2 and possibley 3, doesn't mean the TSR/WOTC aren't going to get their cut in royalties.. (Probably Bioware Included because of the Toolset  - Hopefully we will have a toolset still IF there is a NWN 3)

I'm positive that, any one of these three major corps don't need to sue anyone to survive, even in financially difficult times. Atari going under?  That seems a rather absurd statement consdering they have been around the longest...

If Atari was going to be a Fail, they would have failed a long time ago...  Who ever made that company is no dummy.

Furthermore, I think bioware / atari / wotc, or anyone else who may be involved cannot "leak" information out, so it would be in everyones best interest if they were not saying anything...



I'm starting to believe there may be a possibility NWN3 could be comming, I sure hope the above poster has a source!

I think this is his SOURCE:   http://www.massively...npage_massively

Modifié par Genisys, 19 août 2010 - 09:57 .

[Malagant]

You should do a bit more homework on the Atari name. The company that currently uses the name Atari originally started as GT Interactive until IESA acquired controlling interest and renamed it Infogrames then acquired Hasbro Interactive. In 2003 they licensed the Atari name and logo from Atari Interactive and changed its name to Atari Inc. It is a re-badged Infogrames and has no connection to the popular gaming console of the 80's.

TSR was purchased in 1997 by WotC and the name is no longer used by them on any of their products. It is not an existing corporation, brand, or subsidiary and thus are not 3 companies in one.

The Hasbro/WotC lawsuit issue stems from the current Atari sub-licensing the Dungeons & Dragons digital rights out to Namco-Bandai for European distribution. Namco-Bandai is a direct competitor to Hasbro products who's contract with Atari specifically forbids them from doing any licensing like this. Namco-Bandai had recently purchased Atari's distribution wing in Europe, renaming it to Namco-Bandai partners.

You can see where this may cause a bit of an upset over properties, intellectual or otherwise. In the meantime, Atari is alleging that the lawsuit is "meaningless," and that Hasbro is simply seeking a way to take the D&D game rights away from Atari. Gamasutra reported on the rumor that Atari is currently developing a NWN MMO in cooperation with Cryptic Studios, one of the issues that sparked the suit between Turbine and Atari.

The initial reporting on filings: http://www.gamasutra...php?story=26559

Turbine, of course, are the ones that run D&D Online and they are owned by Warner Bros as of April 20th. It's a big mess.

Modifié par Malagant, 19 août 2010 - 10:47 .

[AndarianTD]

B_Harrison wrote...

For anyone in the UK, Neverwinter Nights Deluxe Edition (DVD) is currently available on Amazon for £2.49(!).

I've ordered from Amazon UK at least once in the past (I'm in the US), so for the record it can be done.

[Urk]

Genisys, you're information is way out of date. TSR is dead. Defunct. Kaput. And Bioware is not an independent company. It hasn't been for years. Bioware is now a wholly owned subsidiary of EA games, one of Atari's most despised competitors. Bioware is out of the D&D business for good... unless Hasbro can wrestle the license away from Atari.



Hasbro has had it up to the eyeballs with Atari's seemingly incurable stupidity and is trying to do just that. Atari has sub-licensed the D&D franchise in Europe to Nameco-Bandai, one of Hasbro's competitors, in blatant violation of their licensing agreement. This is the grounds for Hasbro's lawsuit.



Last I heard the lawsuit was alive and well, but that doesn't mean rumors about NWN3 are untrue. I'm inclined to believe them. It's vintage Atari. It sounds like Atari, being... well... Atari... has seen the writing on the wall and are trying to push NWN3 title through as quickly as possible so they can milk the franchise for everything they can get before they lose it. They've hired the cheapest, crappiest game studio in the business to crank it out ASAP in the hope that they'll be able to drag the lawsuit out long enough to make some money on it before Hasbro cuts them loose.



If they had moved a year ago it might have worked. But while the wheels of justice grind slowly, I find it unlikely they'll grind THAT slowly. It's a desperate grab by a desperate company, and hopefully it will spell the end for them and the D&D franchise can get a fresh start. Unfortunately Atari is the cockroach of the gaming industry. They have an uncanny ability to survive meteoric collapses in value. I could tell you exactly how much value Atari stock has lost in the last 15 years, but you wouldn't believe it.

[Eradrain]

Urk is pretty much absolutely on the money. About pushing NWN3, about Atari (Which has posted losses in the tens of millions every year since 2005, according to Wikipedia).

Genisys, as someone else mentioned, your information is pretty, well, wrong. Atari in its modern incarnation is not a game developer, but a publisher, called Atari SA, formerly known as Infrogrames. They acquired Atari some years ago and adopted the name and branding for brand-recognition. The Atari SA label is new, as of 2009.

Sources on the MMO announcement:
http://weblogs.varie...ter-nights.html
http://www.mmorpg.co....cfm/read/17742 (<-- Official announcement of an Atari D&D MMO in development. I would say, since it's a confirmed, in-development D&D MMO, that the registering of neverwinter-relevant domain names is pretty significant in this case, invisig0th).

Modifié par Eradrain, 20 août 2010 - 01:40 .

[Calvinthesneak]

In all honesty I don't see any new D&D licensing until the contract with Atari ends in 2014. Whatever we get will most likely be the new 4th edition, and I'm not sure how well that will go down with the gaming public. I have a feeling Hasbro will win the lawsuit against Atari and maybe get out of the contract, but by the time they find another publisher and develop a game that will do it justice, I don't think we'd see something till 2014

[edosan]

At least where I am Best Buy seems to have more copies of NWN Diamond than it does of NWN2 in any flavor.