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[David Gaider]

thenemesis77 wrote...
I really wonder why do you as others think, if you keep a certain character, that it somehow takes away from the story or get dull?  It's all in  how you put the story, why always a new character, it's the way games have gone for years, do people have no faith in their own product?  Is it easy to just come up with all new and dash out the old?

Who says it would take away from the story if we kept the former protaganist?

Lots of sequels keep the same protaganist from one story to the next. It helps if there's a story for that protaganist to continue. In this case, the Warden's story is done. You were there to kill the Archdemon and you did. We could move onto another story with the Warden if we wished to, but we didn't. We chose to move onto a new protaganist (which some sequels do, if you weren't aware).

There's nothing wrong with the Warden, and I'm not sure why you think it upsets me to think that some people are attached to their character. I think that's great-- but that character's not going to fit into every tale, and it certainly isn't going to fit into the one we're creating now. If you wish to remain fixated on the Warden, that's your business. DAO is a great game, and quite frankly it does not need its protaganist to go onto other games to remain a great game.

But when anyone will bring up some real concerns, it's a all med day thing.  Damn, should I take the red or blue med, damn the flux of my time.

As soon as you have some "real concerns", I'll gladly change my opinion. There are real concerns, however, and there there are imagined justifications for "I like my Warden"-- which in itself is fine, but how that translates into us depriving you of the Warden just to spite you (or, oddly, the Warden character) is beyond me. I'll politely suggest you think about it a little.

[Rawgrim]

Hawke used a Mortal Kombat finishing-move. Warden never had anything like that to use.

[Collider]

The trailer's all flash. As we saw from the Sacred Ashes trailer and other Dragon Age cinematic trailers, the trailers do not necessarily show what is exactly encountered in the game.

[UberDuber]

Dragon age is about the world of Thedas, yes? Not about a certain character.



This is why I think I will get bored of this, after the third of fourth time of changing characters.

[faction699]

David Gaider wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...
I really wonder why do you as others think, if you keep a certain character, that it somehow takes away from the story or get dull?  It's all in  how you put the story, why always a new character, it's the way games have gone for years, do people have no faith in their own product?  Is it easy to just come up with all new and dash out the old?

Who says it would take away from the story if we kept the former protaganist?

Lots of sequels keep the same protaganist from one story to the next. It helps if there's a story for that protaganist to continue. In this case, the Warden's story is done. You were there to kill the Archdemon and you did. We could move onto another story with the Warden if we wished to, but we didn't. We chose to move onto a new protaganist (which some sequels do, if you weren't aware).

There's nothing wrong with the Warden, and I'm not sure why you think it upsets me to think that some people are attached to their character. I think that's great-- but that character's not going to fit into every tale, and it certainly isn't going to fit into the one we're creating now. If you wish to remain fixated on the Warden, that's your business. DAO is a great game, and quite frankly it does not need its protaganist to go onto other games to remain a great game.

But when anyone will bring up some real concerns, it's a all med day thing.  Damn, should I take the red or blue med, damn the flux of my time.

As soon as you have some "real concerns", I'll gladly change my opinion. There are real concerns, however, and there there are imagined justifications for "I like my Warden"-- which in itself is fine, but how that translates into us depriving you of the Warden just to spite you (or, oddly, the Warden character) is beyond me. I'll politely suggest you think about it a little.

It's ok, Hawke is sweet as hell.  I was actually annoyed that the Wardens story was "over" until the new trailer

[soundchaser721]

Given the disappearing act at the end of awakening i thought the warden's story wasn't over but i guess it is now.

[Dragonageloverrr]

Hawke vs warden Well my warden personally i think hawke beat a qunari big woop i mean dont get me wrong awesome trailer flemeths narrating is awesome if she narrated some of the story that would be cool to and my warden beat down a archdemon and a army of darkspawn WARDEN WINS

[Brockololly]

David Gaider wrote...

Lots of sequels keep the same protaganist from one story to the next. It helps if there's a story for that protaganist to continue. In this case, the Warden's story is done. You were there to kill the Archdemon and you did. We could move onto another story with the Warden if we wished to, but we didn't. We chose to move onto a new protaganist (which some sequels do, if you weren't aware).

I just think much of the consternation regarding the shift to Hawke and a new story is how the Warden's fate is dealt with in Origins and Awakening. If you did the Ultimate Sacrifice, everything is hunky-dory- you've got your closure and a nice funeral scene.If you did the Dark RItual or otherwise survived and completed Awakening, your Warden unceremoniously gets written off in a powerpoint slide where they just drop everything one day and walk off...? I get the whole walking off into the sunset for more adevntures deal, but the execution of communicating that in Awakening especially was bit weak, IF thats the end of the road for the Warden in any meaningful Dragon Age game.


If your Warden romanced Morrigan and goes off to search for her... well, I think thats a story that a decent chunk of people (but not all) would like to see continued. Thats my personal point of irritation- in that case there is no closure at all for the Warden who romanced Morrigan and did the DR and IMO, in that case the Warden's story is very clearly NOT over. Searching for Morriigan and dealing with the aftermath of the DR would clearly be "new" story, but thats fine. If Dragon Age is all about choice and consequences, then IMO, it just makes sense that it should be the Warden to reunite with Morrigan and the Old God Baby since the devs have said many times Morrigan's story isn't over.

I'd just hate it if MOrrigan turned up later on only for some unrelated Hero of Thedas #764 to deal with the consequences of the DR......

/end  Morrigan/DR rant

[thenemesis77]

David Gaider wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...
I really wonder why do you as others think, if you keep a certain character, that it somehow takes away from the story or get dull?  It's all in  how you put the story, why always a new character, it's the way games have gone for years, do people have no faith in their own product?  Is it easy to just come up with all new and dash out the old?

Who says it would take away from the story if we kept the former protaganist?

Lots of sequels keep the same protaganist from one story to the next. It helps if there's a story for that protaganist to continue. In this case, the Warden's story is done. You were there to kill the Archdemon and you did. We could move onto another story with the Warden if we wished to, but we didn't. We chose to move onto a new protaganist (which some sequels do, if you weren't aware).

There's nothing wrong with the Warden, and I'm not sure why you think it upsets me to think that some people are attached to their character. I think that's great-- but that character's not going to fit into every tale, and it certainly isn't going to fit into the one we're creating now. If you wish to remain fixated on the Warden, that's your business. DAO is a great game, and quite frankly it does not need its protaganist to go onto other games to remain a great game.

But when anyone will bring up some real concerns, it's a all med day thing.  Damn, should I take the red or blue med, damn the flux of my time.

As soon as you have some "real concerns", I'll gladly change my opinion. There are real concerns, however, and there there are imagined justifications for "I like my Warden"-- which in itself is fine, but how that translates into us depriving you of the Warden just to spite you (or, oddly, the Warden character) is beyond me. I'll politely suggest you think about it a little.

Thanks for letting us all that like the Warden, knowing that perosn is done in your book, that is sad but I'am glad you let us know that. So I guess he/she is as as good as a delet button, never will I build up a character again to be left off not even knowing what is to become of them and I guess thats my problem.  Then, David, you should have just killed him/her off and be done with it, but you did do that in a certain way. What a waste of money I spent thinking of what it migh of been.  I'am not out to bash you, but man I really felt that it could have had a real end not some off on some raod to maker knows where and never to be heard from, but we should just leave it at that and take in that this woman that is looking for Hawke to help with the world would not look for someone like the Warden that ALSO did great things, but I don't guess that the Warden was good enough to do such things and is just dead. Anyway, this kind of stuff is just what makes me pick up even 1 to 2 games per year, but I need my meds so I will stop at that.

[Johnny Shepard]

My Warden already beat some guy named Hawke/Hawk in Awakening. Any relations?

[thenemesis77]

The last call for our Warden RIP......www.youtube.com/watch    Thank you to our Warden, the true hero.

[DaringMoosejaw]

thenemesis77 wrote...

The last call for our Warden RIP.. Thank you to our Warden, the true hero.

A TON of games go by the same format. You only assumed you'd get another game or three out of the Warden because they did it in Mass Effect, and that's not Bioware's fault.

[Brockololly]

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

The last call for our Warden RIP.. Thank you to our Warden, the true hero.

A TON of games go by the same format. You only assumed you'd get another game or three out of the Warden because they did it in Mass Effect, and that's not Bioware's fault.

And Baldur's Gate 2, the only other sequel BioWare had made...

Modifié par Brockololly, 21 août 2010 - 02:18 .

[DaringMoosejaw]

Brockololly wrote...

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

The last call for our Warden RIP.. Thank you to our Warden, the true hero.

A TON of games go by the same format. You only assumed you'd get another game or three out of the Warden because they did it in Mass Effect, and that's not Bioware's fault.

And Baldur's Gate 2, the only other sequel BioWare had made...

A sequel they made ten years ago.

[Riona45]

thenemesis77 wrote...

The last call for our Warden RIP......www.youtube.com/watch    Thank you to our Warden, the true hero.

You know, you can still play DA:O if you want to.

[Arrtis]

The toolset is there.

[thenemesis77]

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

The last call for our Warden RIP.. Thank you to our Warden, the true hero.

A TON of games go by the same format. You only assumed you'd get another game or three out of the Warden because they did it in Mass Effect, and that's not Bioware's fault.

Your right, I had hopes of I guess somthing that was to never be. I had seen what could have been but only to be just that.
The faith I have in  pople to carry a not just good story but a great one is darn near done.  As I have said thats my problem and people like us that want a carryover are outcast to not only other gamers but the writers of the game aswell. It's good in a way to know where you stand ans just where the game is going and where you don't stand.

Modifié par thenemesis77, 21 août 2010 - 02:30 .

[addiction21]

thenemesis77 wrote...

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

The last call for our Warden RIP.. Thank you to our Warden, the true hero.

A TON of games go by the same format. You only assumed you'd get another game or three out of the Warden because they did it in Mass Effect, and that's not Bioware's fault.

Your right, I had hopes of I guess somthing that was to never be. I had seen what could have been but only to be just that.
The faith I have in  pople to carry a not just good story but a great one is darn near done.  As I have said thats my problem and people like us that want a carryover are outcast to not only other gamers but the writers of the game aswell. It's good in a way to know where you stand ans just where the game is going and where you don't stand.

So because the person that GAVE you that great story your lauding over decides to make another story you lose all faith because he is not doing what you want?
And why did you even get DAO in the first place then? Its not a continuation of any other story or character.

Modifié par addiction21, 21 août 2010 - 02:40 .

[ChuckNorris18]

Taint Master wrote...

filetemo wrote...

hawke got his ass kicked using weapons only, so he resorted to he resorted to every nerd's favourite trick to beat bullies they can't use in real life: magic

Yeah I agree.  Warden could probably beat Hawke man to man, but Hawke's crazy super power would give him the edge.  Too bad the Warden didn't have some uber fade hands to rip people in half with. lol

your telling me that if you see a qunari champion rushing at you with a battleaxe of some sort, you wouldn't use the power of the void? btw that was @ filetemo.

[Dave of Canada]

ChuckNorris18 wrote...

your telling me that if you see a qunari champion rushing at you with a battleaxe of some sort, you wouldn't use the power of the void?

I wouldn't use it if it had a price that we don't know of.

[LOLZAO]

They both die trying to kill each other,also for the warden this music is for you www.youtube.com/watch

[thenemesis77]

Since the Wardon is done, I guess it's a safe bet to delete that DAO or anything that deals with the warden off your computer, Xbox360 or ps3, I mean it came right from David's words, thats a damn shame, all that money into this game, and with hope of more of your story. blah. What a waste of time.

[Arrtis]

You can still transfer fata from DA:O and awakening into DA2 so I would not delete.

[Riona45]

thenemesis77 wrote...

Since the Wardon is done, I guess it's a safe bet to delete that DAO or anything that deals with the warden off your computer, Xbox360 or ps3, I mean it came right from David's words, thats a damn shame, all that money into this game, and with hope of more of your story. blah. What a waste of time.

If you keep harping on this, you'll wander into the strange land of Fan Dumb.

[Arijharn]

By expanding the cast of characters, they enrich the environment. I like my Warden, but my warden isn't Thedas. My Warden played his role (and sure, I'd like to see him take more roles) but I don't want him to completely effect everything within a world.



Hawke is a badass... I now want to know just how much of a badass he really is.