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[UberDuber]

I want the warden back for DA3!

sure Hawke is badass too, but still the warden was *my* guy.

chuck in ponytail too, for good measures.

[Wynne]

-k-a-t-e- wrote...

The wardens story is over, stopping the blight was his/her 'moment' in history. There are many other stories to tell I would imagine, Thedas doesn't revolve around the warden. And just because they choose to tell a different story doesn't diminish the warden's in any way, just as the warden's story didn't make Marric's or Andraste's accomplishments any less.

I couldn't agree with you more--the tragedy of the Calling and all of that, as well as the possible resolution of the entire threat that started the Wardens in the first place with Awakening--all of that was the Warden's story. That's what made the DAO Warden special! 

I don't really care about comparing Hawke with the Warden. I'm just glad Hawke isn't a Warden, because if he was, it would take away everything that encapsulated the Warden's experience. It would just be, "Oh, you're always a Warden, it's not special. It's just a default protagonist element." No way. The Warden is The Warden and not merely DAO's protagonist for a reason! I want it to stay that way. I want new stories to be told in a rich and ever-changing universe.

[Saibh]

UberDuber wrote...

I want the warden back for DA3!
sure Hawke is badass too, but still the warden was *my* guy.
chuck in ponytail too, for good measures.

Was the Warden "your guy" before you played as him? I can't imagine that he was--why not give Hawke the same chance?

[RevengeofNewton]

The Warden took down an Archdemon. It's pretty hard to top that, but we'll see. Hawke might be able to do it, but until then, the Warden is the badass.

[Dave of Canada]

Saibh wrote...

UberDuber wrote...

I want the warden back for DA3!
sure Hawke is badass too, but still the warden was *my* guy.
chuck in ponytail too, for good measures.

Was the Warden "your guy" before you played as him? I can't imagine that he was--why not give Hawke the same chance?

People seem to believe that the last name being mentioned in dialogue removes belief that it's your character for some reason. Apparently my Cousland or Tabris never had last names.

[UberDuber]

Saibh wrote...

UberDuber wrote...

I want the warden back for DA3!
sure Hawke is badass too, but still the warden was *my* guy.
chuck in ponytail too, for good measures.

Was the Warden "your guy" before you played as him? I can't imagine that he was--why not give Hawke the same chance?

Because Hawke is voiced. I don't want some other dude's voice on "my guy" and I doubt that we will get as much dialog time too... now that Hawke is voiced. 

Plus you cant pick your Origins.

Don't get me wrong, Hawke is badass but he is not "my guy"

Too me it just feels like im being pulled away from my character in Origins and forced to play as BioWare's.

[Calla S]

UberDuber wrote...

Saibh wrote...

UberDuber wrote...
I want the warden back for DA3!
sure Hawke is badass too, but still the warden was *my* guy.
chuck in ponytail too, for good measures.

Was the Warden "your guy" before you played as him? I can't imagine that he was--why not give Hawke the same chance?

Because Hawke is voiced. I don't want some other dude's voice on "my guy" and I doubt that we will get as much dialog time too... now that Hawke is voiced. 

Plus you cant pick your Origins.

Don't get me wrong, Hawke is badass but he is not "my guy"

Too me it just feels like im being pulled away from my character in Origins and forced to play as BioWare's.

You do realize that the Warden was technically BioWare's character, as well? Aeducan, Brosca, Cousland, Tabris, Amell, Surana, Mahariel - doesn't matter, really. Still BioWare's character. Having a voice over doesn't change the fact that it's still a stationary character.

[marbatico]

lets see:

the Warden took down a dozen darkspawn and a dragon.

Hawke nearly got beaten by a single Quanari.


alright, the warden had 3 more people at his side, but still.

edit: i'm comparing Sacred Ashes with Destiny here.

Modifié par marbatico, 20 août 2010 - 09:18 .

[Apollo Starflare]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Saibh wrote...

UberDuber wrote...

I want the warden back for DA3!
sure Hawke is badass too, but still the warden was *my* guy.
chuck in ponytail too, for good measures.

Was the Warden "your guy" before you played as him? I can't imagine that he was--why not give Hawke the same chance?

People seem to believe that the last name being mentioned in dialogue removes belief that it's your character for some reason. Apparently my Cousland or Tabris never had last names.

Selective memories are powerful things.

[Annihilator27]

David Gaider wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...
Its funny but David Gaider hates the Warden and you can tell when anyone wants the Warden back, when point of fact should have never of been taken away, but he brings in this bum that should have been killed by darkspawn to be better then any person in the DAO legend and to boot, make him the one that changes the world "FOREVER". 

It's like saying we don't want spiderman to be in the world anymore and we bring in bugman, thats just how Hawke  compares to the Warden, oh and if it pisses David off about that, well hell my boy, you should have made it Hawke from the get go. blah.

I hate the Warden? 

Because clearly the only reason to move onto a new hero was because I hate the old one? Because Hawke is my precious baby (even though the Warden was just as much mine as Hawke is)?

I feel like I wandered into "I forgot to take my meds" land again.

Lmao, Owned.

[Warden457]

My warden would beat him.besides i bet in the actual game hawke will never be able to actually do the crazy demon hands thing

[Dave of Canada]

marbatico wrote...

lets see:

the Warden took down a dozen darkspawn and a dragon.

Hawke nearly got beaten by a single Quanari.


alright, the warden had 3 more people at his side, but still.

edit: i'm comparing Sacred Ashes with Destiny here.

The Warden did nothing, he stood there while the group downed the Dragon. He killed maybe two-three Darkspawn.

[Dreadstruck]

Dave of Canada wrote...

The Warden did nothing, he stood there while the group downed the Dragon. He killed maybe two-three Darkspawn.

Actually, it was seven. Not counting the dragon finishing blow.

[TheDayWarden]

I'm not sure who'd win, but by god I'd like to see that fight. I think trailer Hawke would probably take down the Sacred Ashes Warden if it came to it...but he'd sure as hell find my Cousland Warrior a tougher prospect altogether. Still, default Hawke IS somewhat of a badass!

[HELLOWORLDDANG]

Asking if hawke could beat tha warden is like asking if dave of canada would ever stop posting on a thread its just impossible.

Modifié par HELLOWORLDDANG, 20 août 2010 - 09:55 .

[rabidhanar]

I say Warden wins.....As others have said 1 Qunari vs Dragon and Darkspawn, Dragon wins hands down.

Also, Warden had teamates, if Hawke attacked one the others would help. Morrigan with Ice freezes hawke solid, Warden wins. Leliana turns Hawke into a pincushion, Warden Wins. Sten stabs Hawke to death, Warden wins. Warden stabs Hawke himself, Warden Wins.

Hawke attacks one target with the evil arms, others kill Hawke, Warden wins.

Not to mention actual gameplay of the Warden could destroy Hawke. Mage Warden trumps all.
EDIT: for the record, im not caring about a 1 on 1 scenario. Im caring about what we know from only the trailers. Warden had a team, Hawke did not.

Modifié par rabidhanar, 20 août 2010 - 10:08 .

[TOBY FLENDERSON]

The Warden giving it was a darkspawn army and a dragon not a single abomination.

[Randy1012]

David Gaider wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...
Its funny but David Gaider hates the Warden and you can tell when anyone wants the Warden back, when point of fact should have never of been taken away, but he brings in this bum that should have been killed by darkspawn to be better then any person in the DAO legend and to boot, make him the one that changes the world "FOREVER". 

It's like saying we don't want spiderman to be in the world anymore and we bring in bugman, thats just how Hawke  compares to the Warden, oh and if it pisses David off about that, well hell my boy, you should have made it Hawke from the get go. blah.

I hate the Warden? 

Because clearly the only reason to move onto a new hero was because I hate the old one? Because Hawke is my precious baby (even though the Warden was just as much mine as Hawke is)?

I feel like I wandered into "I forgot to take my meds" land again.

I don't really understand it, either. I mean, I liked my Warden, but it would be pretty hard for me to play DA2 without Hawke, since my Warden is dead.

[HighlandBerserkr]

I already prefer Hawke and we have not even seen gameplay footage yet part of it stems from when i was younger, i could never truly relate to a character if they didn't speak, no matter how awesome the game itself was, case in point, Zelda, Chrono Trigger, etc...

[Umbra Nox]

For now, it is the Warden by a long shot. Hawke still has a lot of proving to do to reach 'warden' status.

[thenemesis77]

David Gaider wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...
Its funny but David Gaider hates the Warden and you can tell when anyone wants the Warden back, when point of fact should have never of been taken away, but he brings in this bum that should have been killed by darkspawn to be better then any person in the DAO legend and to boot, make him the one that changes the world "FOREVER". 

It's like saying we don't want spiderman to be in the world anymore and we bring in bugman, thats just how Hawke  compares to the Warden, oh and if it pisses David off about that, well hell my boy, you should have made it Hawke from the get go. blah.

I hate the Warden? 

Because clearly the only reason to move onto a new hero was because I hate the old one? Because Hawke is my precious baby (even though the Warden was just as much mine as Hawke is)?

I feel like I wandered into "I forgot to take my meds" land again.

Sorry, David you must be right, I will take that hit as I also said you hated the Warden. oh and yea I must of had a bad day and didn't take  the "happy day med".  No just some of us know that when the warden is even in thought and brought up, it seems to ****** you off, you would soon forget about a character that took alot of time to build and  HAS alot left in the tank but you can throw your, meds day all day long.  I hope you at least give some damn end for Hawke and don't ride the money cane pole and then go, well hes just left and now DA3 has this bloody bum in it.


I really wonder why do you as others think, if you keep a certain character, that it somehow takes away from the story or get dull?  It's all in  how you put the story, why always a new character, it's the way games have gone for years, do people have no faith in their own product?  Is it easy to just come up with all new and dash out the old? 

But when anyone will bring up some real concerns, it's a all med day thing.  Damn, should I take the red or blue med, damn the flux of my time.

[RevengeofNewton]

UberDuber wrote...
Because Hawke is voiced. I don't want some other dude's voice on "my guy" and I doubt that we will get as much dialog time too... now that Hawke is voiced. 

Plus you cant pick your Origins.

Don't get me wrong, Hawke is badass but he is not "my guy"

Too me it just feels like im being pulled away from my character in Origins and forced to play as BioWare's.

The cognitive dissonance you show is disturbing.

Hawke is as much your char as  the Warden is. You get to pick Hawke's gender, what he/she looks like, how he/she fights, and his/her actions. Voice, smoice. Your character said things in Origins too, just not in dialogue.

[TheDayWarden]

^^ This.