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[Inquisitor Recon]

Miranda would make a good second in command in my opinion. Yet she evidently has problems commanding people's loyalty. She seems to have a lot of knowledge but not as much experience in the field.

Garrus and Jacob on the other hand have plenty of military experience, but probably aren't as good tacticians as Miranda.

So it is a tie up between those three.

[Spartas Husky]

Oh oh... ok they wouldn't work well with others, is what I take you were trying to say.



But dont worry that is misplaced worries. Proffesionals of such caliber, specially in the military feel, have a very .....weird for civies..... ability to just put aside personal issues, because really.... the guy/gal I have beef with is the one watching my 6... and I am watching his, so is in both of our best interest to take care of each other.



Since we know, I dont care how much I hate you, if I let you die, there is noone watching my back.



So if they had a big issue with working as a team, I guess they would have not joined to begin with. but since they did, I guess they are more professional in that regard.



Then again.... none of them have ran their own show as far as I can tell... except maybe Samara, and free lancing Thane.



GRunt... never ran the show...



jack is a loose cannon.



Thane was once a..... state assassin.



garrus.... yeah poor bro never ran his own show... and when he did he got bad luck.



Miranda... yeah I give you her, she definitely fits your bill to the letter.



Tali.... yeah quarians never have anything of their own I think.



Jacob.... he is a follower, he gives me that feeling.



Zaeed..... prolly him too, he is a merc, the best, so he does pic his bones. So yeah true, you do have a problem with him in his loyalty mission so he also fits your bill.



Legion:.................



Mordin.... he worked everywhere, from normal doctor, to head scientist so duno.... still he does most likely consider everyone else... slow lazy people lol

[Elyvern]

ReconTeam wrote...

Miranda would make a good second in command in my opinion. Yet she evidently has problems commanding people's loyalty. She seems to have a lot of knowledge but not as much experience in the field.
Garrus and Jacob on the other hand have plenty of military experience, but probably aren't as good tacticians as Miranda.
So it is a tie up between those three.

There's quite a bit of evidence in Mass Effect Galaxy suggesting that Miranda was part of Cerberus before it splintered away from the Alliance military. And I don't think it's so much as she doesn't have field experience. More like she doesn't work well with people.  She has the tendency to rub people the wrong way, and she's probably more used to being obeyed unequivocably than having subordinates agree with her course of action. But like it was mentioned, not all leaders have to be nice. She could very well be the "bad-cop" to Shepard's "good-cop" when it comes to leadership dynamics. That'll still get the job done effectively.

[Gundar3]

Elyvern wrote...

Shepard is the poster boy...he's the one the crew looks up to and adores, who can look aside at casual vices like gambling and stuff. But like Husky says, you'd probably want an XO who can fill the lacks of the CO, like making the hard decisions, putting a foot down for the sake of discipline, doing the awful paperwork (Sorry, I can't imagine Shepard filling in custom and immigration forms for example)--Miranda fits that role perfectly. Sure, half the crew probably thinks she's a ****, but no one can ever brand her as incompetent, and that in itself is a form of respect.

This.  Also the fact that she has experience in Cerberus and considering it is thir operation, at least in the beginning is why she makes a good XO imo.

[Canned Bullets]

Garrus was actually a good leader, its just that it was an inside source that led to his downfall. Wrex is a good leader, he is trying to unite the Krogan on Tuchanka and seems to be good at it. Zaeed wouldn't really be a good leader because he seems selfish, if you listen to his stories they always end with "I was the only one that survived that day."

[KendallX23]

i think Miri is a good XO..though she needs to work on her people skills...yeah..i didn't like that she was made Xo for us but it's understandable...she is great for the role.

Following her it would be Jacob for me...brofist here.....

the rest as follows



Garrus-yea...+ experience,badass

-he dosen't seem to achieve much without Shepard..needs more confidence in himself

Jack- +i like chaos

-she's no leader,people person or very stable(that said i love her but not as a XO)

Grunt -As someone said..he is only a few days old...u don't make your new born son a XO...or at least i hope u don't

Samara- +experience,skills

-too much black and white here...u done bad..u dead

Thane- he is an assasin not good for XO

Zaeed-he would make Normandy a mercenary ship...with SHep approval of course

no need to talk about the rest...though tali might be a good idea if she gets over the Shepard fan club phase

[Kriztaen]

At first I was not too thrilled about Miranda as XO, hell, when she gave the whole "we follow orders on this ship" line I wanted to tell her to go sit in a corner and behave heh.



But by the time the game ended I must say I actually warmed up to her character and at this point can't really think of anyone else on the ship replacing her as my XO.

[s0meguy6665]

I'd rather assign Miranda a position on my cannon.

Modifié par s0meguy6665, 19 août 2010 - 08:13 .

[biomag]

Miranda is the XO and not trustworthy because she shall control Shepard and ensure his loyalty to TIM's orders. She knows what she is doing and is fine as XO.



I would exchange her with Garrus the first chance available. He isn't connected to Cerberus, is of proven loyalty (even though Miranda supports me against TIM when it matters most), has the same approach to leadership and tactical decisions as my Shepard (he knows sacrifice are needed, but isn't as cold as Miranda). I would keep her as adviser and 3rd in command, but not as XO.

[Fanbus]

My issue with Miranda being XO is if she romanced you, then the proffessional thing to do is for her to step down from office. I'd think that in such close quarters operations like a crusier in space, such personal affairs would create conflicts of interest.

Imagine getting written up by the XO. You decide to appeal and want to take it up the chain of command, only to find out that the CO is banging the XO and the two bedding each other (something similar almost happened to me actually). You now have two people's word against yours.

Like I said previously, if Miranda ends up being a love interest, I'd write her off the XO position and put her on an advisory position similar to Kelly, in other words relieve her of command authority. I'd replace her with another XO or another character. It'd be the proffesional thing to do, aside from Shepard himself stepping down which we know won't happen.

Sucks that the game doesn't have that rich of a roleplay system

Modifié par Fanbus, 19 août 2010 - 08:38 .

[Terror_K]

Miranda is a terrible XO. For somebody who is supposedly perfect she seems to make a lot of bad choices and decisions.

[s0meguy6665]

Terror_K wrote...

Miranda is a terrible XO. For somebody who is supposedly perfect she seems to make a lot of bad choices and decisions.

such as?

[IanPolaris]

s0meguy6665 wrote...

Terror_K wrote...

Miranda is a terrible XO. For somebody who is supposedly perfect she seems to make a lot of bad choices and decisions.

such as?

Biotic Bubble.  Enough said.

-Polaris

[IanPolaris]

Fanbus wrote...

My issue with Miranda being XO is if she romanced you, then the proffessional thing to do is for her to step down from office. I'd think that in such close quarters operations like a crusier in space, such personal affairs would create conflicts of interest.

Imagine getting written up by the XO. You decide to appeal and want to take it up the chain of command, only to find out that the CO is banging the XO and the two bedding each other (something similar almost happened to me actually). You now have two people's word against yours.

Like I said previously, if Miranda ends up being a love interest, I'd write her off the XO position and put her on an advisory position similar to Kelly, in other words relieve her of command authority. I'd replace her with another XO or another character. It'd be the proffesional thing to do, aside from Shepard himself stepping down which we know won't happen.

Sucks that the game doesn't have that rich of a roleplay system

Not only that, but if you romance Miranda she arranges it so that almost all the ship (especially Tali and Jack) can witness her 'conquest' of shepard by 'doing the dirty' in the engineering core.  Not only that, but she leaves you a present as well which I did not appreciate.

Bottom line (and you see it throughout) is that Miranda is fundamentally an extremely insecure person and insecure people do not make good leader regardless of what Bioware may think on the suicide mission.

-Polaris

[Kronner]

IanPolaris wrote...

Not only that, but if you romance Miranda she arranges it so that almost all the ship (especially Tali and Jack) can witness her 'conquest' of shepard by 'doing the dirty' in the engineering core.  Not only that, but she leaves you a present as well which I did not appreciate.

Bottom line (and you see it throughout) is that Miranda is fundamentally an extremely insecure person and insecure people do not make good leader regardless of what Bioware may think on the suicide mission.

-Polaris

Conquest? As far as I know, it is Shepard who must conquer her, if you are not interested in her, she won't jump you (like Tali). If she was insecure, would she bang in the engine room? Sounds like confident to me. You do not even have to help her and she still gets the job done as a leader. Insecure my ass.

As for biotic bubble, she says she could do it in theory. Any biotic could. If Shepard is not an idiot, (s)he will pick the best biotic available - Samara or Jack.

Modifié par Kronner, 19 août 2010 - 09:42 .

[KendallX23]

guess my Shep wasn't an idiot cause i picked Samara without even looking at the other options..she seemed the perfect choice...and Jack too...i was right...who needs walkthroughs when u have logic(i nanother lifetime i was a vulcan)

I like Miranda as XO but i would like the option to select that in ME3..right now it's very informal...

[IanPolaris]

Kronner wrote...

Conquest? As far as I know, it is Shepard who must conquer her, if you are not interested in her, she won't jump you (like Tali). If she was insecure, would she bang in the engine room? Sounds like confident to me. You do not even have to help her and she still gets the job done as a leader. Insecure my ass.

You missed the point.  If you go through Miranda's options and romance her, you find that she is in fact extremely insecure.  She is hard on herself.  She makes a point of trying to assert her authority when it isn't necessary and when unasked, and in the scene I mentioned has to show the ship in the most graphic way possible that Shepard is hers.

She is most definately insecure.  It's a common failure in officer candidates.  I've seen it before.

As for biotic bubble, she says she could do it in theory. Any biotic could. If Shepard is not an idiot, (s)he will pick the best biotic available - Samara or Jack.

She says, "I can do it too."  She then goes on to say, "In theory any biotic could"

Not so.  She makes other bad calls as well, but the biotic bubble is the one that sticks out.

-Polaris

[Barquiel]

good
I'd like to keep her as my XO in ME3. She is a good leader (the suicide mission is the proof), smart and trustworthy.

IanPolaris wrote...

She says, "I can do it too."  She then goes on to say, "In theory any biotic could"

-Polaris

...and she is right. Shep can continue the mission, no critical mission failure.

[tonnactus]

Destroy Raiden wrote...

So do you guys trust Miranda as your XO going forward for ME3?

I dont even trust her as a squadmember.But good thing she isnt alive in my save game anyway for this reason.

[tonnactus]

s0meguy6665 wrote...

Terror_K wrote...

Miranda is a terrible XO. For somebody who is supposedly perfect she seems to make a lot of bad choices and decisions.

such as?

Her stupid behavior regarding a former cerberus victim.The first thing this ****** said: "I am the second in command
and on this ship you have to follow orders."


Compare this with jacobs behavior with tali. Far better:" We had differences/problems in the past,but i hope
we could solve that for future teamwork."

Like some other poster wrote: Miranda has zero people skills. Its idiotic that the game designers let her be a good leader when she clearly didnt have any competence to lead people. She even got betrayed by her best friend because she somehow thought it wasnt necessary to told him what she done and that she work for cerberus.

Niket didnt betray her only for money,more because she dissapointed him and loose his trust.

Modifié par tonnactus, 19 août 2010 - 10:39 .

[Caihn]

She's the squadmember I trust the most.



- She would risk her life to save Shepard (romance)

- She didn't hesitate to resign from Cerberus

- She is smart

- She is the most talented of all the squadmates