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Hawke's Tone in Dialogue VO; Affected by Previous Character Choices??


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David Gaider wrote...
 When people find out who the male PC is, I'm going to laugh-- he was in Origins, but his character wasn't very popular. Regardless, he has a wonderful voice and is quite capable.


Smart money is on Cailan's voice actor- I think one of the posters who played at Comic Con said Hawke sounded a bit like Cailan....

Unless its Cammen's voice actor...:pinched:

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Cailan's voice actor would be awesome! A character who looks like a whiter, younger version of Duncan, having the same voice as Maric's son is giving me a very happy headache ♥ I shall await such confirmation!

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Hmm interesting you know I wouldn't mind if it was Cailan's voice actor. He always had a young Idealist tone to Cailan so it would be interesting to see how he plays out the different tones for Hawke.

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David Gaider wrote...

the-expatriate wrote...
Whoever it is will have to be veeery multi-talented, and the pressure would be very high.


They are indeed. It wasn't easy to cast, as we required someone who could do all three tones convincingly without sounding like a completely different person each time. When people find out who the male PC is, I'm going to laugh-- he was in Origins, but his character wasn't very popular. Regardless, he has a wonderful voice and is quite capable.


One word - Loghain. :ph34r:

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David Gaider wrote...

the-expatriate wrote...
Whoever it is will have to be veeery multi-talented, and the pressure would be very high.


They are indeed. It wasn't easy to cast, as we required someone who could do all three tones convincingly without sounding like a completely different person each time. When people find out who the male PC is, I'm going to laugh-- he was in Origins, but his character wasn't very popular. Regardless, he has a wonderful voice and is quite capable.

I bet its Arl Eamon.

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Aaaaugh! Now I'm dying of curiosity. :) So when can we find out the M.Hawke and F.Hawke actors?

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I'm hoping for Nick Boulton myself. The man did both Ser Bryant AND Vaughan brilliantly, he's British, he's in the right age group for Hawke....I know there are other choices, but he's a great option.

I'd love, love LOVE to see Steve Blum, but I can't imagine they'd choose an American to do that much British dialogue. Since Hawke starts in Lothering, I'm assuming he'd have a British accent.

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I see-- I think I understand. You're trying to combat the sort of "Zen Warden Syndrome" in DAO, where your options were basically, "Yeah, I'll help," or, "No, I won't," with little ability to affect tone and motivation, because to do so would require too many permutations to fit into the dialog box. So now you can affect it based on your previous choices.

Bingo.

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David Gaider wrote...

Bingo.


You said it wrong.  You are supposed to say:

BINGO!

And jump up and down with your hands in the air.  :P

Of course... now you've created Borg controlled voice over.  Hawke will say something and his voice will have adapted.  Before long Hawke's voice will assimilate us into the Dragon Age world and... and...

I guess there'll be cheese cubes for everyone?

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MerinTB wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

the-expatriate wrote...
Whoever it is will have to be veeery multi-talented, and the pressure would be very high.


They are indeed. It wasn't easy to cast, as we required someone who could do all three tones convincingly without sounding like a completely different person each time. When people find out who the male PC is, I'm going to laugh-- he was in Origins, but his character wasn't very popular. Regardless, he has a wonderful voice and is quite capable.


One word - Loghain. :ph34r:


My monies on Steve Blum (Oghren, Gorim, Irving). I don't think Oghren was all that popular and everything David just said fits Blum perfectly, don't really believe there are many voice actors with his range.

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lv12medic wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Bingo.


You said it wrong.  You are supposed to say:

BINGO!

And jump up and down with your hands in the air.  :P

Of course... now you've created Borg controlled voice over.  Hawke will say something and his voice will have adapted.  Before long Hawke's voice will assimilate us into the Dragon Age world and... and...

I guess there'll be cheese cubes for everyone?

Alistair approves +10. Sten disapproves -10 (cheese cubes and cookies, perhaps?:))

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eww....a double post

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I am trying to get my head around how this works exactly.  Lets take an example from DAO.  Say I have been sarcastic to Alistair(and anybody else for that matter) the whole way through the game up until the point I do his personal quest when he meets Goldana in Denerim.  In the conversation with Goldana there are a number of flavour choices that lead to the ultimate decision whether to help her or just leave(as a "for instance") I decide this is not situation suited for levity and choose the "nice" dialog options, if my personality affects the tone of this choice, would it be based on all my previous flavour options up to that point in the game?  or just the options I made in in the dialog tree in Goldana's house?

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Margaret_TheElf wrote...

Alistair approves +10. Sten disapproves -10 (cheese cubes and cookies, perhaps?:))


I guess if I don't want to have a Qunari Brain Damage Inducing Headbutt (QBDIH), I should include cookies.

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lv12medic wrote...

Margaret_TheElf wrote...

Alistair approves +10. Sten disapproves -10 (cheese cubes and cookies, perhaps?:))


I guess if I don't want to have a Qunari Brain Damage Inducing Headbutt (QBDIH), I should include cookies.

<Comic goes here>

Sten approve +10
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david gaider your amazing I am super excited about DA2 and I am going through all these threads to see information and its cool how much you pop up to try and erase the fears of the always over worring fanboy/girl. this is a more peaceful thread but I have seen some intense ones where I fear for you sometimes dont need 1 of biowares best writers dying from a stress related heart attack just remember sometimes you just can't convince people with words you guys know what your doing doesent really apply to this thread just thought it was worth pointing out its cool how active you and all the bioware guys are in the forums

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TheMadCat wrote...

MerinTB wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

the-expatriate wrote...
Whoever it is will have to be veeery multi-talented, and the pressure would be very high.


They are indeed. It wasn't easy to cast, as we required someone who could do all three tones convincingly without sounding like a completely different person each time. When people find out who the male PC is, I'm going to laugh-- he was in Origins, but his character wasn't very popular. Regardless, he has a wonderful voice and is quite capable.


One word - Loghain. :ph34r:

My monies on Steve Blum (Oghren, Gorim, Irving). I don't think Oghren was all that popular and everything David just said fits Blum perfectly, don't really believe there are many voice actors with his range.


Simon Templeton has done a lot of VO work as well, and I'm fairly certain that while other characters (Oghren, Alistair, Bann Teagan) have rabid lovers and haters, Loghain is pretty close to universally despised.

For my money it's either Simon Templeton or Steve Valentine (knowing how sensitive David Gaider seems to be about Alistair).

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zahra wrote...

So excited about the game now. I was on the "HATE V.O" bandwagon" but this revelation has really changed that perspective. I should have never doubted you Team Dragon Age. *tears of joy*

*hugs* Thank the Maker! You just restored my faith in humanity a little bit. Thank you for owning up to that. :)

And everything in this thread makes my inner geek quiver with delight and squee. (Many thanks to David Gaider; I think I speak for all of us when I say those quotes were awesome to read!) I love everything I'm hearing about the dialogue and the increased interactivity! (I can't believe some people have been wailing about how this is the end of choice in the series... hogwash, it's more real choice than ever before!) And I would LOVE for Garrett Hawke to be voiced by Cailan's actor, if that's the case. Jowan's might be interesting, too. I hope not Steve Blum, but only because I've heard him before in far too many places and I don't think Oghren was that hated, anyway. Also, he's not British, whereas Peter Bramhill and Desmond Askew are.

And it's not Alistair or Loghain. Please, they're both loved regardless of being polarizing.

Modifié par Wynne, 20 août 2010 - 01:13 .


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wanderingboxer wrote...
In the conversation with Goldana there are a number of flavour choices that lead to the ultimate decision whether to help her or just leave(as a "for instance") I decide this is not situation suited for levity and choose the "nice" dialog options, if my personality affects the tone of this choice, would it be based on all my previous flavour options up to that point in the game?  or just the options I made in in the dialog tree in Goldana's house?


The flavour choices would be personality options-- with tone icons-- where you could use the tone that you desired. Once you got to action choices (like the point at which you decide to, say, give Goldanna some coin) that's where your tones to date would come into play. You would give her the coin, but might do so with a sarcastic quip-- it really depends on whether we thought the tones added anything to that line. If not, it might be the same neutral tone that would have appeared in Origins.

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MerinTB wrote...
One word - Loghain. :ph34r:


Dear God...if they got Simon Templeman to voice Hawke...my mind will fully explode. His performance in the Legacy of Kain series is nothing less than one of the finest examples of voice acting in games to date.

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This just sounds more and more cool. Take that, all the people who complained!



On the matter of VO, I really doubt it's gonna be Simon Templeman - Mr Gaider said he wasn't 'popular', and Loghain has generated so much discussion and even has his own fandom so you can't really say he was unpopular. Cailan fits much better.

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Hmm, I was thinking more in the sense that Loghain is a character that people just love to hate. I guess the real question is when we say 'unpopular', do we mean a character that most people simply wouldn't think of or someone who was actively hated? If so, I could see Oghren...

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Inzhuna wrote...

This just sounds more and more cool. Take that, all the people who complained!

On the matter of VO, I really doubt it's gonna be Simon Templeman - Mr Gaider said he wasn't 'popular', and Loghain has generated so much discussion and even has his own fandom so you can't really say he was unpopular. Cailan fits much better.


But I liked him! :crying:

Though that may have been contributed to by Wynne comparing him to a puppy...  I like puppies :whistle:

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Wynne wrote...

zahra wrote...

So excited about the game now. I was on the "HATE V.O" bandwagon" but this revelation has really changed that perspective. I should have never doubted you Team Dragon Age. *tears of joy*

*hugs* Thank the Maker! You just restored my faith in humanity a little bit. Thank you for owning up to that. :)

And everything in this thread makes my inner geek quiver with delight and squee. (Many thanks to David Gaider; I think I speak for all of us when I say those quotes were awesome to read!) I love everything I'm hearing about the dialogue and the increased interactivity! (I can't believe some people have been wailing about how this is the end of choice in the series... hogwash, it's more real choice than ever before!) And I would LOVE for Garrett Hawke to be voiced by Cailan's actor, if that's the case. Jowan's might be interesting, too. I hope not Steve Blum, but only because I've heard him before in far too many places and I don't think Oghren was that hated, anyway. Also, he's not British, whereas Peter Bramhill and Desmond Askew are.

And it's not Alistair or Loghain. Please, they're both loved regardless of being polarizing.


I am extremely happy to own up to it, in fact I was hoping beyond hope to be proven wrong. :lol: I am firmly on the "definitely preorder " bandwagon, and am all "movin' my hips like yeah" about DA 2.

I reeeeaaaally don't understand why this bit of information isn't getting more hype/celebrated more by the forum. Like, really? REALLY? You're complaining about what kind of shiny stuff comes out of mage staffs in alpha screenshots when they have revealed one of the most exciting piece of news in RPG gaming history???!!

All I have to say to that is..

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David Gaider wrote...
I'm rather excited to see how this will work out for everyone. It's something I mentioned earlier on (as in "we'll explain that later") and we'll probably go into it in more detail-- but since previewers are already commenting on it, I thought it would be worthwhile to let you guys know what we're doing. Allowing you guys the ability to establish some personality for your character, even in the context of a voiced PC, is something that we thought befitted Dragon Age.

Very interesting approach to action and reaction system in context of hero's personality.. But now Peter Molyneux is trying to best you with his Milo :D

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I personally can't wait how this new DA system turns out in the end ;)

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