*still laughing after reading this wonderful thread* Selfcest, tag, and lots of shirtless Hawke and Hawke working out with Nutella. I love you crazy people so much!
Seriously, this is so awesome. Garrett Hawke is the man. If you put away all the fancy gear, he could bear-wrestle DudeShep to the ground in two seconds flat. But not FemShep... no, if it ever came down to a contest between Garrett and FemShep, they would both lose... and win, because they'd forget to fight, and just make steamy, passionate genre-breaking love on the floor. The contest of who was going to being on top would turn into... well, the same thing, but in a different way.
Avalla'ch wrote...
DarkLord_PT wrote...
Is it just me, or is Garrett the first default char BioWare makes that *everyone*(ie: the vast freaking majority) likes?
And beware... he's male! I would expect fangirls raging and doin' zealot stuff about the gender but alas, it seems I was wrong.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]
That's the thing, though--most of us rage about the gender bias because most main character designs are obviously intended to attract the attention of the kind of young male who feels insecure about his masculinity, which I think is the major reason for us feeling slighted in the first place. Garrett Hawke, whether they intended it this way or not (and I am like 99.9% sure they did) has appeal to both genders! He's manly enough for one half of the fanbase and sexy enough for the other! He's an adult's idea of cool, not a teenager's. He's not some hulking musclebag who's all like, "Look at my manliness! The rage face I'm wearing, the ocean of steroids I shot in my veins and the 43 just-barely-not naked ladies kneeling by my feet prove I'm manly! Right? Right?" Because
NO. To almost any woman, he might as well be that Mystery douchebag--the only woman who would give him the time of day in real life is the type who goes out to bars to get drunk and forget that her daddy didn't love her and relive the same sick cycle of self-hatred she's been living her whole life because she doesn't know anything better. (Poor girl.)
A real man isn't going to just throw himself goggle-eyed at the first crowd of women on the horizon. He's mature enough and deep enough to worry about quality rather than quantity. Plus, he's got more business in life than smirking and posing. In fact, he's too busy to do either of those things, because he needs to kick ass and smear Nutella, and he's almost out of Nutella.
Anyway, without all the silliness, my point is, Hawke doesn't look like some insulting stereotype of what a(fe)male gamer wants. He sends all the right signals. And that's why the ladies are not complaining--because we're too busy thinking about where to smear that delicious Nutella first! (Spoiler: They're all naughty places! All of them. All.)
To outline it:
--This may be one of the most important points, but it certainly helps that
the narrator is actually female this time! I loved Duncan, but Flemeth is the bomb. Kate Mulgrew's awesomer-than-awesome narration only makes Hawke stand out more, and look more mysterious. She's like a +14 weapon.
--He doesn't overdo the manly facial expressions; they're subtle and intent and purposeful rather than over the top and lame/douchey. He means business, plain and simple. He's not going to underestimate his enemy.
--He is buff, especially in the arms, but his frame is overall a bit on the lean side, which is new--and awesome.
--Freckles! Most people are too afraid to give their hero freckles. They look good. I hope he has freckles in the actual game, too.
--The woman he's locking lips with is a smoky, dusky, badass gypsy pirate. The kind of dangerous woman the female players can respect rather than glaring because she looks like some stupid supermodel who had a boob
job.
--The music is right on target. Just a teensy bit of guitar as a supplement rather than being all modern instruments and modern sounds (I'm looking at you, New Sh*t and This Is War.)
There is nothing to distract from the awesomeness of Garrett Hawke. Nothing at all. And that is why we are united as a fan base--they hit the mark, plain and simple.
Aristorum wrote...
I'm so tired of seeing the typical girly depiction of customizable female characters. I have the hardest time looking at some avatars on this forum because it's just a modern beauty. Why is there such an obsession with being beautiful? I want a strong female character, and I want that to show in her features. No doe-eyes and thin face. I want a square shaped face, set jaw, determined/narrow eyes, and high, pronounced cheek bones. I want to look at fem!hawke and say "Daaaaaaamn I don't wanna mess with her." Making an Angelina Jolie is just ugh in my opinion.
I want fem!hawke to look as respectable and intimidating as male!hawke.
Hmm. Well, my standards are more like, "no thick makeup, no fake-looking tan, no fake bleach-blond hair with ugly black eyebrows, no stupid chain mail bikinis."
I honestly appreciate every hair and skin color that actually exists, just like every figure type. I only get annoyed when people show me something unrealistic or objectified, or when one type of improbable figure becomes universalized (as with the fashion model industry--extremely tall, extremely skinny is the only way you can be one in most circles, which has resulted in actual deaths--that makes me angry).
I don't really mind if something is pretty as long as it's not ultra-feminized; you know, tiny thin face with tiny thin nose and giant lips and giant eyes--I think that's fairly ugly, that sort of exaggeration. But somebody like Olga Kurylenko in Centurion I can get behind. I mean, think about it--her boobs aren't hanging out in the cold weather, she doesn't act all fake-sexy... the makeup is a bit too much like Yukidama was saying, a fashion model LARPing, but I find that vastly preferable to most depictions of a warrior woman.
That said, I hope they make LadyHawke attractive in a natural and semi-androgynous sort of way rather than making her look all cute and pretty and harmless. You can't see it on my avatar, but my FemShep actually has a
fairly sturdy jaw. And she doesn't have one of those teensy little pug noses, either. Those look cute on some people, sure, but when they're everywhere it gets really annoying to me.
Nowshin wrote...
Nutella makes everything better. 
You know what else makes everything better?
BWONG! Someone seriously needs to make a dramatic Bwong trailer with Garrett Hawke going into his own dreams to his Nutella paradise. That would be epic.
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