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Taint Master

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Lets face it, Garret Hawke is one of the coolest designs in Dragon Age, up there with Duncan and Morrigan.  I don't think there's a point in letting us make our own 'Hawkes' anymore.

David Gaider said he wanted Dragon Age to have a recognizable protagonist.  Why not just make him the canon character and dump the character creator altogether?  They could spend the development money on more content/dialogue instead and make the story richer.

DAO was our chance to make our own characters so why not make DA2 officially about Garrett?

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B3taMaxxx

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Mike Hawke is cannon.

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Replay value would drop to about 1 playthrough for me, no thanks.

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nhsk wrote...

Replay value would drop to about 1 playthrough for me, no thanks.

You could still pick different choices and romances, etc.

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No, there should never be a canon in DA or ME. It will totally ruin everything. Do you have any idea how many people would be pissed they can't create their own face ?

Garret Hawke is the Default Hawke, just like Sheploo

Modifié par DarthCaine, 19 août 2010 - 09:57 .


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the trailer got me interested in the story, but but i'll still get somthing else over da2. it all depends on what year it comes out.

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DarthCaine wrote...

No, there should never be a canon in DA or ME. It will totally ruin everything

There should be a canon, or else things will get too complicated down the line.  If they do a DA3 for example, they'd have to include your world shaping decisions from DAO and DA2, which means they have to plan for a ton of variables. 

This way the game would be more streamlined, which means we can get more sequels out of the series.  Even KOTOR has a canon story.

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All hail for McHawke, the new Mickey Maus.

Garrett Hawke isn't going to be made canon. You can PM or e-mail any dev you want.

Modifié par JoePinasi1989, 19 août 2010 - 10:15 .


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ME doesn't have a canon and there's 3 standard games, 1 spin-off, 3 books, 2 comics and it works. They simply ignore stuff from the games and don't mention them

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DarthCaine wrote...

ME doesn't have a canon and there's 3 standard games, 1 spin-off, 3 books, 2 comics and it works. They simply ignore stuff from the games and don't mention them

LOL!  You think that's a good thing?

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Taint Master wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

ME doesn't have a canon and there's 3 standard games, 1 spin-off, 3 books, 2 comics and it works. They simply ignore stuff from the games and don't mention them

LOL!  You think that's a good thing?

Yes, imposing a canon would make a LOT of people angry. What would be the point in choices if there's a canon!? It'll just be another crappy action adventure game.

And besides, there's a lot of people that prefer to play as a female

Modifié par DarthCaine, 19 août 2010 - 10:08 .


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Uh, no. My primary Hawke will be a Lady Hawke, thank you.



(Although I'm not actually going to call her that.)

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Andrastee wrote...

Uh, no. My primary Hawke will be a Lady Hawke, thank you.

(Although I'm not actually going to call her that.)


You should call her that. You should.

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Oh nevermind.

Modifié par B3taMaxxx, 19 août 2010 - 10:18 .


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B3taMaxxx wrote...

Oh nevermind.


Hmm? Image IPB

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DarthCaine wrote...

Taint Master wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

ME doesn't have a canon and there's 3 standard games, 1 spin-off, 3 books, 2 comics and it works. They simply ignore stuff from the games and don't mention them

LOL!  You think that's a good thing?

Yes, imposing a canon would make a LOT of people angry. What would be the point in choices if there's a canon!? It'll just be another crappy action adventure game.

And besides, there's a lot of people that prefer to play as a female

People didn't get mad over KOTOR having a canon story.  I don't see the big deal.

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Is there any actual proof that the default name will be Garret?

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DarthCaine wrote...

ME doesn't have a canon and there's 3 standard games, 1 spin-off, 3 books, 2 comics and it works. They simply ignore stuff from the games and don't mention them

Actually the new book revealed Canon. I dunno the details but people are raging the most over how Udina is councilor and Anderson is admiral.

I support the idea of having Hawke be the poster-face like Shepard. I don't support the idea of removing character customization.

BTW: If Bioware can make Hawke to fantasy games what Revan is to anything sci-fi then they have already more than earned their place alongside Warhammer and Warcraft in lore.:wizard:

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Taint Master wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

Taint Master wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

ME doesn't have a canon and there's 3 standard games, 1 spin-off, 3 books, 2 comics and it works. They simply ignore stuff from the games and don't mention them

LOL!  You think that's a good thing?

Yes, imposing a canon would make a LOT of people angry. What would be the point in choices if there's a canon!? It'll just be another crappy action adventure game.

And besides, there's a lot of people that prefer to play as a female

People didn't get mad over KOTOR having a canon story.  I don't see the big deal.

People didn't get mad over Revan being light-side. ALOT of women did get mad that Revan was a confirmed male. They got so mad that the Exile in KOTOR 2 was female. And that made alot of male players mad because the female version had even more bugs than the male version.

Point is: yes, people got mad with Lucas Arts:pinched: Revan had a mask for a reason Maker-damn them!

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StarMarine wrote...

Is there any actual proof that the default name will be Garret?

Yep. The Podcast... and I believe the gamers would have seen the name on all the conventions the game was shown/played. 
And no, I am not making him Cannon. Mainly because that would mean I couldn't play as the female role, which I want to. And even if I could, Marian is a horrible name for a female, at least in my country. :o

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Taint Master wrote...

People didn't get mad over KOTOR having a canon story.  I don't see the big deal.

Uh, yeah they did. In any case, removing the choice of playing as a female would be a terrible idea. I don't mind having a set character in DA2, but I would mind not being able to choose the character's gender in a BioWare game. 

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Freek on a Leesh wrote...

B3taMaxxx wrote...

Oh nevermind.


Hmm? Image IPB



 Twas an edited post about Mike Hawke.

Modifié par B3taMaxxx, 19 août 2010 - 10:29 .


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swirlwind wrote...

Taint Master wrote...

People didn't get mad over KOTOR having a canon story.  I don't see the big deal.

Uh, yeah they did. In any case, removing the choice of playing as a female would be a terrible idea. 

Why?  If Hawke is male, that's just part of the character.  Like I said in the OP, DAO was our chance at making our own characters.  Bioware could make Garrett the new face of DA and the games that come later.

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NO way. The recognizable symbol of Dragon Age is blood dragon aka dragon made of blood.Leave the emo where they belong.

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Taint Master wrote...

Why?  If Hawke is male, that's just part of the character.  Like I said in the OP, DAO was our chance at making our own characters.  Bioware could make Garrett the new face of DA and the games that come later.

Garrett is already the face of DA2, and I'm fairly sure BioWare isn't just going to make a series out of that character. They've already stated that they're interested in exploring the whole of what Thedas has to offer, and I'm betting there's a lot more to the world than one Garrett Hawke. 

There are a lot of games out there where you have to play a male protagonist, whether you want to or not. BioWare is one of the exceptions to this rule. I understand you don't care about playing a female, but a lot of other gamers out there do, including myself. BioWare has always been about great stories and giving the player choices in those stories. I see no reason for them to change something that they excel in, and that gamers love.