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[Bahlgan]

ErichHartmann wrote...

I hope people realize developers are capable of multitasking. I'm sure they started work on DA2 during Origins production. Bioware has the resources to work on multiple projects!

I'm not worried. I've been a fan of Bioware since the beginning and have yet to be disappointed.

If their "multitasking" doesn't explain the numbers of bugs in the game, including the ones STILL not fixed, then I have no idea what actually did cause the game to be bugged as badly as it was.

[Ygolnac]

Majspuffen wrote...

 I don't think they'll rush anything and ruin a great franchise.

Yes, in fact they DID NOT  rush the awakening expansions, an expansion sold to us without bugs, with great continuity from the main chapter, that featured a story that made a lot of sense.

Yes, i'm ironic if someone is asking.

[Hoagsie]

Bahlgan wrote...

If their "multitasking" doesn't explain the numbers of bugs in the game, including the ones STILL not fixed, then I have no idea what actually did cause the game to be bugged as badly as it was.

The only bug I encountered was related to stability and would cause me to sporadically crash.  As far as in-game events, triggers, dialogue, animation, cutscenes, loot, etc, etc, etc that all worked flawlessly for me.

[TimelordDC]

Hoagsie wrote...

Bahlgan wrote...

If their "multitasking" doesn't explain the numbers of bugs in the game, including the ones STILL not fixed, then I have no idea what actually did cause the game to be bugged as badly as it was.

The only bug I encountered was related to stability and would cause me to sporadically crash.  As far as in-game events, triggers, dialogue, animation, cutscenes, loot, etc, etc, etc that all worked flawlessly for me.

There are so many bugs that are still left in the toolset and more coming out but they've never given any of those the slightest attention. There is also a big list of bugs that never got fixed even with 1.4 that are covered by Qwinn's Unofficial fixes mod.

[Euno17]

First

people need to realize not everyone is going to like a game.

I remember going through this 'I can't believe he is dissing my game' thing as a teenager till a few years ago. Hopefully many of you will get out of this stage sooner rather then later.

on to the main-topic:

I am scared about DA2. Ever since EA came on board it seems things have been going down hill. There is a REASON why so many people were worried about EA  being associated with bioware.

But at the same time - lets say EA has nothing to do with the development time-release of Biowares games. Mass Effect 2 - in my opinion was a huge dissapointment. Sure it was a fun game but - there were a-lot of areas/things taken out from the first one (and they completely re-designed many other things).

Now we are at DA:O-2. Things look to be changing again. you have no other choices but to be a Human? Why the hell does it seem like every sequel by Bio-ware these days is a limited - dumbed down version of the orginial? Once again I have an issue with completely re-designing everything. I have a feeling this will be a short game or at the very least - shorter then the orginial.

"Dragon Age 2 will feature a greater difference between races, meaning elves, dwarves and qunari are being reviewed and redesigned" According to bio ware.

I hope the sequel turns out to be a great game BUT I will wait and see what others think of it first.

Modifié par Euno17, 20 août 2010 - 07:02 .

[Hoagsie]

Euno17 wrote...

Now we are at DA:O-2. Things look to be changing again. you have no other choices but to be a Human? Why the hell does it seem like every sequel by Bio-ware these days is a limited - dumbed down version of the orginial? Once again I have an issue with completely re-designing everything. I have a feeling this will be a short game or at the very least - shorter then the orginial.

"Dragon Age 2 will feature a greater difference between races, meaning elves, dwarves and qunari are being reviewed and redesigned" According to bio ware.

I hope the sequel turns out to be a great game BUT I will wait and see what others think of it first.

That's just it.  This isn't DA:O 2.  This is DA 2.  It is not meant to continue the story from DA:O.  It is its own story with some parts occuring in tandem with DA:O and others are completely separate.  The reason you are a human is to better fit with the story.  Perhaps the citizens of Kirkwall would never accept an Elf as their champion.  The same could be said about a Dwarf.  We don't know.  Qunari were established so some have horns but others do not.  Redesigning how the darkspawn looked is a good thing once I read the reason why they did it.  The developers felt they looked too different to be affected by the same disease.

If they did leave your Origin up to you then they could have to spend time to write content that reacts differently to an Elf and a Dwarf detracting from the story and experience of the game at large as well.  I think things are fine just as they are.

[Divine Justinia V]

RageGT wrote...
I'm really wondering who's the troll here. And Blizzard made much better stuff than WoW since they started. And they keep doing them! WoW sucks badly but that's just my opinion. I liked Lineage 2 a lot better! And what Blizzard does best, besides taking a real long time between sequels, is Super Fast Patching Fixing  their fraking games, released after extensive Beta Testing and even so, bugs happen.

Completely because I'm such a troll? Also, I'm not familiar with Blizzard  games (other than WoW) because I'm a console gamer. They're not popular with console.

Daewan wrote...
Sorry, you misspelled "pulling crazy stuff out of your ass and trying to pass it off as fact."
I've lost all faith in the DA2 forum again.
*No, seriously, what are you going on about?  Did you just make that up?

Me too, amigo. Seriously.. some of the things people come up with on here. 

I honestly thing the game will be fine even if they're rushing it.

[InebriatedPizza]

Yes, this game is being rushed.

The publisher [EA] sets unrealistic deadlines - something they are renown for.

Modifié par InebriatedPizza, 20 août 2010 - 07:31 .

[Kaedah]

I Think no doubt they are rushing this, I personally think it is EA, if anybody wants someone to blame. They are the driving force behind Bioware. I personally think it is completely stupid for a gaming company to set the release date for game before who knows if they had even started.

[nuclearpengu1nn]

If the game is once again full of BUGS and like all of the best and awesome looking armor in the game shows up as either warden commander armor or starfang then you would know its rushed

[Heimdall]

No, I don't think it's rushed.

[Archereon]

Its sad how few developers release games when they're ready. Most games are rushed to the market, and the few that aren't are held back far longer then necessary.

[DarthCaine]

The only thing I'm concerned about is the length of the actual game ...

[DragonRageGT]

The part I like best in this "hidden message" is:



"A game created by independent thinkers immune to corporate priorities, who don't care what's trendy at a given moment."



That used to be Bioware, did it not?

[DarthCaine]

After CD project released 2 premium modules plus the enhanced edition all for FREE, I have the biggest respect for them than any company, though I don't think it was a smart business decision, they could have made good money out of it and put it to good use for The Witcher 2

Modifié par DarthCaine, 20 août 2010 - 11:15 .

[Archereon]

DarthCaine wrote...

The only thing I'm concerned about is the length of the actual game ...

Even if that game is other crap?

[DarthCaine]

Archereon wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

The only thing I'm concerned about is the length of the actual game ...

Even if that game is other crap?

I like everything I've heard so far, so unless it's buggy as hell, I doubt I'll have any problems with it

[DragonRageGT]

DarthCaine wrote...

After CD project released 2 premium modules plus the enhanced edition all for FREE, I have the biggest respect for them than any company, though I don't think it was a smart business decision, they could have made good money out of it and put it to good use for The Witcher 2

Huh.. they gave it for free for those who had already bought the original retail release of The Witcher. As it would be expected from a company that respects their customers. Original release of TW was buggy and had many defects in the English VO, so I've read.

Since I only heard about The Witcher when the EE was already released for sale, I bought the EE. So I don't feel like they gave me anything for free.  Plus the boost on the sales since they fixed most of the original release issues and a complete re-recording of the English VO probably compensated everything and added a good reputation to them.

[Jedi31293]

Yes, I believe Bioware is rushing Dragon Age 2. The game will be released in less than 2 years after the original. That's two years to craft a whole new story, upgrade the graphics, create an epic amount of quests like Origins, record a staggering amount of dialogue, polish and fix bugs, and improve upon things that lacked in the first game.

That is a long list of things to do in just 2 years, and it is obvious many of them will be quickly rushed or cut down. What I fear the most is that Dragon Age will become less traditional RPG, and more "streamlined" action game with minor RPG elements.

"Streamlined." Synonymous to cut down, taken out, and rushed.

Modifié par Jedi31293, 20 août 2010 - 11:34 .

[DarthCaine]

Jedi31293 wrote...

What I fear the most is that Dragon Age will become less traditional RPG, and more "streamlined" action game with minor RPG elements.

What I don't understand is, what gave people that impression ? Just because there's no races or origins ?

[Jedi31293]

DarthCaine wrote...

Jedi31293 wrote...

What I fear the most is that Dragon Age will become less traditional RPG, and more "streamlined" action game with minor RPG elements.

What I don't understand is, what gave people that impression ? Just because there's no races or origins ?

In no way am I insinuating that Dragon Age 2 will indeed be less of an RPG. I am merely stating a fear, a fear developed after witnessing the "streamlining" of Mass Effect 2. I fear Bioware will head in the same direction, and some of my fears have been justified.

-Dialogue Wheel
-Only One Race.
-Main Character is Voiced.

What's next, no more inventory or loot to create a more "streamlined" expierance?

Edit:
My mistake, it seems it has already been confirmed that there will be inventory. Even still, we do not have info on it, and there's no guarantee that it will be as big as it was in DA:O. Nor do we have info on loot.

May be fewer mage spells, but they will be customizable/upgradable. [Mark Darrah - GameInformer print article]

The above statement is another thing that frightens me. Less spells, but they are customizable/upgradable. Sounds a lot like the ME2 statement of "less skills, but customizable and more meaningful."

Modifié par Jedi31293, 20 août 2010 - 11:55 .

[DarthCaine]

Jedi31293 wrote...

-Dialogue Wheel

The only problem I have with this the paraphrasing (you know, how sometimes what you choose and what Shepard does is totally different). The ammount of choices is still the same, just tucked away in the Investigate bar, while DAO just gave the illusion of many choices and often choosing one or the other got the same response from the NPC.

-Only One Race.

I'm more sore about the no Origins part than the race. Lots of RPGs don't have multiple races, but origins is what made DA unique

-Main Character is Voiced.

I much prefer a voiced protagonist and I'd sacrifice the no races part for a voiced protagonist since it's much more cinematic. And like I said the only problem is half the time what I choose and what Shepard said was totally different which really annoyed me

Modifié par DarthCaine, 20 août 2010 - 11:56 .

[lv12medic]

I have no idea if Bioware is rushing DA2 or not. They're taking about two years to make the game. How long should it take? 2.1, 2.5, 3, 10, infinity? One person working a 40 hour work week for 48 weeks for 2 years is 3,840 man-hours. Add 99 more employees and that is 384,000 man-hours. It adds up pretty quickly. 3 years and you are up to 576,000 man-hours. There has to be a cutoff point somewhere. Someone has to decide what that point is.



I think the big issue here is if Bioware took a lot longer to make DA2... who is going to fund this? Who is going to front the investment capital? Bioware doesn't make a penny on DA2 until it is released. Their financial books bleed red ink all over the place until the game is released.

(I wonder if that is where Bioware got their blood dragon design...)

[Jedi31293]

DarthCaine, I was not listing things I found wrong with DA2. In fact, I don't mind the Dialogue Wheel or that the main character is voiced. I was merely listing changes to the Dragon Age franchise that are nearly identical to the changes from ME1 to ME2.