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Is there a person who DOESN'T like Garrus?


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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

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He joined Shepard because he kind of took a rocket to the face and had nothing going on. Tali then joined later because she was freed up. Other characters were purposefully written to be busy so as to not be recruitable. 

I don't see where Garrus has declared devotion to Shepard other than it's another awesome adventure to go on. I get the impression that he's come along because he has nothing left to lose and wants to have his crusade, not because he's passionately loyal to Shepard. 

I realize that other people got different vibes from him but that's how it came off to me.

Actually, when you ask him a question about having any regrets leaving his old life he tells you in both games that he has no regrets. And in Mass Effect 2 he also tells you that he wants to stick with you and the Normandy until the very end.

Really he could have just left any time he wanted to after Shepard fixed his face. He could of went after Sidonis by himself and then disappeared again. That would have been selfish. Instead he decides to be by your side when you fight the Collectors.


He could have left, but again, this is the moment he's been waiting for: going face to face against the ultimate evil without red tape holding him back. I get the impression that he's in it much more for the experience than he is to help Shepard. 

It's a matter of interpretation, though. I could care less if he was a friend or not; I'd much rather have capable individuals that will do their job and follow orders. The following orders thing is what makes him sketchy to me, though he proved that he's maybe lost a little of his impulsiveness when he doesn't shoot Sidonis if you tell him not to. 

Whether he's loyal or not isn't my issue with him though. It's his philosophy and why he does things that I don't agree with ("badassery" etc). Anyway, I appreciate that you're engaging me in this convo. :)

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

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He has a life?:wizard:


And that life does not include being loyal to Shepard's cause unless it's perfectly convenient. That's my point.

No offense, but you're lousy at this.

The reason why he didn't "look" for shepard was because he, along with everyone else, was convinced shepard was dead and there was nothing he or anyone else could do about it.

I agree Liara was most likely the most loyal. Because she actually helped bring shepard BACK TO LIFE. That sounds a bit creepy, but it was loyal.

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

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He has a life?:wizard:


And that life does not include being loyal to Shepard's cause unless it's perfectly convenient. That's my point.

No offense, but you're lousy at this.

And Liara has no life :wizard:.

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Some Geth wrote...
And Liara has no life :wizard:.


At this point I'm quite certain you're just a troll, so... :wizard:

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

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And Liara has no life :wizard:.


At this point I'm quite certain you're just a troll, so... :wizard:

Trolls make a face like this :devil:I make a face like this :mellow:.

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fortunesque wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

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He joined Shepard because he kind of took a rocket to the face and had nothing going on. Tali then joined later because she was freed up. Other characters were purposefully written to be busy so as to not be recruitable. 

I don't see where Garrus has declared devotion to Shepard other than it's another awesome adventure to go on. I get the impression that he's come along because he has nothing left to lose and wants to have his crusade, not because he's passionately loyal to Shepard. 

I realize that other people got different vibes from him but that's how it came off to me.

Actually, when you ask him a question about having any regrets leaving his old life he tells you in both games that he has no regrets. And in Mass Effect 2 he also tells you that he wants to stick with you and the Normandy until the very end.

Really he could have just left any time he wanted to after Shepard fixed his face. He could of went after Sidonis by himself and then disappeared again. That would have been selfish. Instead he decides to be by your side when you fight the Collectors.


He could have left, but again, this is the moment he's been waiting for: going face to face against the ultimate evil without red tape holding him back. I get the impression that he's in it much more for the experience than he is to help Shepard. 

It's a matter of interpretation, though. I could care less if he was a friend or not; I'd much rather have capable individuals that will do their job and follow orders. The following orders thing is what makes him sketchy to me, though he proved that he's maybe lost a little of his impulsiveness when he doesn't shoot Sidonis if you tell him not to. 

Whether he's loyal or not isn't my issue with him though. It's his philosophy and why he does things that I don't agree with ("badassery" etc). Anyway, I appreciate that you're engaging me in this convo. :)

No problem:happy:. And he does get the job done, you can't deny him that. He also does say, at least to femsheps *and not Male sheps >=( * that Shepard is basically all he has left and he doesn't want to go anywhere.

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Some Geth wrote...

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But he is not and she is into pets :?.


Yes, he is, and, no, she is not.

Welcome to the argument 8 pages ago.


But seriously, there is absolutely nothing in the game to make it seem that Kelly brought scale itch on board. That's just you being a mindless, stereotyping sheep. It could have been anyone on board.

Even Miranda is far more likely. She at least leaves the ship. Kelly is never shown outside the Normandy except for when she's abducted. But I'm not saying it was Miranda, either, I'm saying that claiming it to be anyone is 100% idiotic.

But Miranda is into human men Kelly loves all and that fits :unsure:


What do Kelly's sexual tastes (whatever they may or may not be) have to do with whether or not Garrus is a dick?

Modifié par Pups_of_war_76, 19 août 2010 - 11:15 .


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My understanding of Renegades is chosing the renegade choice every time; not having an higher renegade meter.


No, I promise you that a lot of renegades get bad "coverage" from people that want to act like wannabe badasses that are too cool for everything. Conversely, I'd be foolish to assume that all paragons are people on their high-horses that are afraid to cause a stir, so I don't. 

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Pups_of_war_76 wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

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But he is not and she is into pets :?.


Yes, he is, and, no, she is not.

Welcome to the argument 8 pages ago.


But seriously, there is absolutely nothing in the game to make it seem that Kelly brought scale itch on board. That's just you being a mindless, stereotyping sheep. It could have been anyone on board.

Even Miranda is far more likely. She at least leaves the ship. Kelly is never shown outside the Normandy except for when she's abducted. But I'm not saying it was Miranda, either, I'm saying that claiming it to be anyone is 100% idiotic.

But Miranda is into human men Kelly loves all and that fits :unsure:


What do Kelly's sexual tastes (whatever they might be) have to do with whether or not Garrus is a dick?

I don't know but if you like her you may as well like anyone :wizard:.

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

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And Liara has no life :wizard:.


At this point I'm quite certain you're just a troll, so... :wizard:

As much as I don't agree with your views about Garrus, I can agree with you there.

Some Geth, stop trolling.

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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

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He could have left, but again, this is the moment he's been waiting for: going face to face against the ultimate evil without red tape holding him back. I get the impression that he's in it much more for the experience than he is to help Shepard. 

It's a matter of interpretation, though. I could care less if he was a friend or not; I'd much rather have capable individuals that will do their job and follow orders. The following orders thing is what makes him sketchy to me, though he proved that he's maybe lost a little of his impulsiveness when he doesn't shoot Sidonis if you tell him not to. 

Whether he's loyal or not isn't my issue with him though. It's his philosophy and why he does things that I don't agree with ("badassery" etc). Anyway, I appreciate that you're engaging me in this convo. :)

No problem:happy:. And he does get the job done, you can't deny him that. He also does say, at least to femsheps *and not Male sheps >=( * that Shepard is basically all he has left and he doesn't want to go anywhere.


I don't remember that line... probably because I've played through twice and a lot of dialog gets chopped off if you don't pursue a romance. 

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Ask Mystranna, as she must have some type of weird tie in.

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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Some Geth wrote...
And Liara has no life :wizard:.


At this point I'm quite certain you're just a troll, so... :wizard:

As much as I don't agree with your views about Garrus, I can agree with you there.

Some Geth, stop trolling.

I am far from a troll :huh:.

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Pups_of_war_76 wrote...

What do Kelly's sexual tastes (whatever they may or may not be) have to do with whether or not Garrus is a dick?


It's an ad hominem gone wrong.

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fortunesque wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

fortunesque wrote...


He could have left, but again, this is the moment he's been waiting for: going face to face against the ultimate evil without red tape holding him back. I get the impression that he's in it much more for the experience than he is to help Shepard. 

It's a matter of interpretation, though. I could care less if he was a friend or not; I'd much rather have capable individuals that will do their job and follow orders. The following orders thing is what makes him sketchy to me, though he proved that he's maybe lost a little of his impulsiveness when he doesn't shoot Sidonis if you tell him not to. 

Whether he's loyal or not isn't my issue with him though. It's his philosophy and why he does things that I don't agree with ("badassery" etc). Anyway, I appreciate that you're engaging me in this convo. :)

No problem:happy:. And he does get the job done, you can't deny him that. He also does say, at least to femsheps *and not Male sheps >=( * that Shepard is basically all he has left and he doesn't want to go anywhere.


I don't remember that line... probably because I've played through twice and a lot of dialog gets chopped off if you don't pursue a romance. 

Well actually, he says that your basically the only friend he has left in this "screwed up galaxy." Close enough I guess.^_^

Modifié par Mr.BlazenGlazen, 19 août 2010 - 11:22 .


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Andaius20 wrote...

Ask Mystranna, as she must have some type of weird tie in.


What are you talking about?

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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

fortunesque wrote...


He could have left, but again, this is the moment he's been waiting for: going face to face against the ultimate evil without red tape holding him back. I get the impression that he's in it much more for the experience than he is to help Shepard. 

It's a matter of interpretation, though. I could care less if he was a friend or not; I'd much rather have capable individuals that will do their job and follow orders. The following orders thing is what makes him sketchy to me, though he proved that he's maybe lost a little of his impulsiveness when he doesn't shoot Sidonis if you tell him not to. 

Whether he's loyal or not isn't my issue with him though. It's his philosophy and why he does things that I don't agree with ("badassery" etc). Anyway, I appreciate that you're engaging me in this convo. :)

No problem:happy:. And he does get the job done, you can't deny him that. He also does say, at least to femsheps *and not Male sheps >=( * that Shepard is basically all he has left and he doesn't want to go anywhere.


I don't remember that line... probably because I've played through twice and a lot of dialog gets chopped off if you don't pursue a romance. 

Well actually, he says that your basically the only friend he has left in this "screwed up galaxy." Close enough I guess.^_^


Now Garrus what have we learned?  That when you get your friends killed playing cowboys and mercs you won't have any left.  

^_^

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Who's Garrus?



I only recruited the women......yeah baby!

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Just some of these wierd tangents your responding too.

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Not that anyone cares, but; "I'm BACK, BACK IN THE NEW YORK GROOVE!"

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tj987654321 wrote...

Not that anyone cares, but; "I'm BACK, BACK IN THE NEW YORK GROOVE!"

I do love New York :whistle:.

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Wow! Reached page 10 already? LOL, you guys have some serious dedication!

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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...


Well actually, he says that your basically the only friend he has left in this "screwed up galaxy." Close enough I guess.^_^


Isn't that a romance specific line? I swear that I've never gotten that one since I don't proposition him. 

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Wow! Reached page 10 already? LOL, you guys have some serious dedication!

Thank you :wub:.

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Mystrana, you hate Garrus for various reasons. We get that. And your point beyond that is what exactly?