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Is there a person who DOESN'T like Garrus?


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Some Geth wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Wow! Reached page 10 already? LOL, you guys have some serious dedication!

Thank you :wub:.


It must have been us and that gal from New York! (Not Kidding!)

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I wonder if Garrus was bullied as a child.



It is probably a big problem in turian schools, given the martial environment they cultivate.




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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Mystrana, you hate Garrus for various reasons. We get that. And your point beyond that is what exactly?


You can just as easily say that to the people who are arguing with me. My point is backing up my opinion.

I like to debate, but it does take two.

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Pups_of_war_76 wrote...

I wonder if Garrus was bullied as a child.

It is probably a big problem in turian schools, given the martial environment they cultivate.

His dad was a bit of an ass :whistle:.

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Wow! Reached page 10 already? LOL, you guys have some serious dedication!


However, we definently failed on keeping the ten pages about Garrus.Image IPB 

I think we failed five pages ago.

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tj987654321 wrote...


FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Wow! Reached page 10 already? LOL, you guys have some serious dedication!


However, we definently failed on keeping the ten pages about Garrus.Image IPB 

I think we failed five pages ago.


Oh I think it was before that :P 

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Some Geth wrote...

Pups_of_war_76 wrote...

I wonder if Garrus was bullied as a child.

It is probably a big problem in turian schools, given the martial environment they cultivate.

His dad was a bit of an ass :whistle:.


His dad sounded perfectly fine to me...

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fortunesque wrote...

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Well actually, he says that your basically the only friend he has left in this "screwed up galaxy." Close enough I guess.^_^


Isn't that a romance specific line? I swear that I've never gotten that one since I don't proposition him. 


Yeah it's a romance specific line (which sucks), but the sentiment is still there whether or not you romance him.

Some Geth wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Wow! Reached page 10 already? LOL, you guys have some serious dedication!

Thank you [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png[/smilie].


This isn't an acheivement, you do know that right? <_<

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The point in debating is gaining new data so opinions can be adjusted and bettered. At least that's what I think. If nobody is willing to yield on either side, it becomes an exercise in futility or else a useless hobby that you happen to find fun. And I don't target the other parties because I know them and their motivations. You are the one I don't know so your motivations are what is unclear to me. I think the whole debate should be called off on both sides.

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Pups_of_war_76 wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Pups_of_war_76 wrote...

I wonder if Garrus was bullied as a child.

It is probably a big problem in turian schools, given the martial environment they cultivate.

His dad was a bit of an ass :whistle:.


His dad sounded perfectly fine to me...

Ok imo he sounded like an ass by the way I make Garrus good most of the time :whistle:.

Modifié par Some Geth, 19 août 2010 - 11:36 .


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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

The point in debating is gaining new data so opinions can be adjusted and bettered. At least that's what I think. If nobody is willing to yield on either side, it becomes an exercise in futility or else a useless hobby that you happen to find fun. And I don't target the other parties because I know them and their motivations. You are the one I don't know so your motivations are what is unclear to me. I think the whole debate should be called off on both sides.


The Garrus debate is pretty much over. It kind of ended when that person asked me why I thought Tali was selfish. Then Some Geth tried to make it about Kelly.

I like to debate. I like the hear why or how other people interpreted things differently, and I like to pose my own interpretations and challenges. I also hate the idea that anyone who has something negative to say is automatically a troll, something you find a lot on these boards. So when I have something negative to say I'm going to say it, and I don't mind explaining myself.

Modifié par Mystranna Kelteel, 19 août 2010 - 11:40 .


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Pups_of_war_76 wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Pups_of_war_76 wrote...

I wonder if Garrus was bullied as a child.

It is probably a big problem in turian schools, given the martial environment they cultivate.

His dad was a bit of an ass :whistle:.


His dad sounded perfectly fine to me...


In the first ME, Garrus's farther was portrayed as being strict and following all the rules to the letter. In reaction, Garrus became quite the opposite and disreguards the rules whenever possible. I can't tell if his father was a good turian, but Garrus feels that he isn't.

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Hey you guys like to talk about Tali here so why not Kelly?

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jellobell wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...


Well actually, he says that your basically the only friend he has left in this "screwed up galaxy." Close enough I guess.^_^


Isn't that a romance specific line? I swear that I've never gotten that one since I don't proposition him. 


Yeah it's a romance specific line (which sucks), but the sentiment is still there whether or not you romance him.

But how is it? If I don't romance him, how am I going to know this? 

And this is one part where I think BW really failed a bunch of the characters. If you don't romance them, you're left to fill in the blanks. 

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jellobell wrote...

This isn't an achievement, you do know that right? <_<


-Xbox Achievement Unlocked: Bull**** for two hours about the likeability of Garrus 100G_




Hey, it is an Achievement!Image IPB

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I agree, but the manner in which said negativity is couched makes all the difference. If you know what you will say will ****** the other person off than it means that person won't think clearly and so will probably form their arguments in a faulty manner. If people really want to hear their opponents' reasoning in a sound manner, I think negativity must be couched in an objective and unsensational manner. I have inadvertently started too much melodrama over misplaced sensationalist language that I used to color my arguments. One example in particular leaps to my mind.  If you are not interested in facing an opponent objectively and free of sensationalism than I think it is the sensationalism of debating that you like rather than what you might learn from it.  Those are two very different things.

Modifié par Ragabul the Ontarah, 19 août 2010 - 11:49 .


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Modifié par Some Geth, 19 août 2010 - 11:47 .


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Well 100G is not bad and it's my day off.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I agree, but the manner in which said negativity is couched makes all the difference. If you know what you will say will ****** the other person off than it means that person won't think clearly and so will probably form their arguments in a faulty manner. If people really want to hear their opponents' reasoning in a sound manner, I think negativity must be couched in an objective and unsensational manner. I have inadvertently started too much melodrama over misplaced sensationalist language that I used to color my arguments. One example in particular leaps to my mind.


Nah, I think my language was perfect.

Hopefully people won't ever make the mistake again that Garrus is some universally loved god-character.

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I don't like Garrus at all. In ME1, my two least favorite characters were Garrus and Tali. I honestly have no idea what makes them so popular.

In the first game, Tali just told me about the quarians and said she was homesick. Honestly she just felt like a Quarian Wiki page to me. Garrus at least had more of a character, but he just kept complaining about how he couldn't leave C-sec because of his father, and he couldn't be a spectre because of his father, and he couldn't shoot down the Doctor cause he the plane was filled with hostages, he just sounded like a spoiled teenager that didn't get his way. God, do something about it then. He finally comes on board with me but not once did he really stand up for himself. At the end, it was always, 'Yea, you're right, Shepard.'

Then the second game he just acts like I never said anything and he's even worse than before. That said, he was a little better in the second game, felt like he had more of a backbone, better sense of humor, too. Then again, I never really got to talk to him before he was talking about 'wrestling'. Also glad to see Tali had a personality in the second game.

However, I don't hate any of my companions, just don't like some of that much. I made sure everyone was going to live through that final mission. I also took Tali and Garrus along to the human reaper just in case because I figured it'd be harder for them to die that way. If I could have Kaidan, Ashley (if she was still alive), Wrex, and Liara back in excange for the whole ME2 squad, I'd totally do it.

This happens to me all the time though, my favorite characters always get knocked off. I still remember watching the original power rangers and suddenly all three of my favorite rangers, red, black, and yellow, are never seen again. It was so devastating :(

Modifié par yoshibb, 19 août 2010 - 11:50 .


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Next Achievement: Find out how many Tali maniacs are in the world- 5000G

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tj987654321 wrote...

Next Achievement: Find out how many Tali maniacs are in the world- 5000G

2345 :whistle:

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Oh my, Mystranna, is that... is that a banner in your signature?

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yoshibb wrote...

I don't like Garrus at all. In ME1, my two least favorite characters were Garrus and Tali. I honestly have no idea what makes them so popular.

In the first game, Tali just told me about the quarians and said she was homesick. Honestly she just felt like a Quarian Wiki page to me. Garrus at least had more of a character, but he just kept complaining about how he couldn't leave C-sec because of his father, and he couldn't be a spectre because of his father, and he couldn't shoot down the Doctor cause he the plane was filled with hostages, he just sounded like a spoiled teenager that didn't get his way. God, do something about it then. He finally comes on board with me but not once did he really stand up for himself. At the end, it was always, 'Yea, you're right, Shepard.'

Then the second game he just acts like I never said anything and he's even worse than before. That said, he was a little better in the second game, felt like he had more of a backbone, better sense of humor, too. Then again, I never really got to talk to him before he was talking about 'wrestling'. Also glad to see Tali had a personality in the second game.

However, I don't hate any of my companions, just don't like some of that much. I made sure everyone was going to live through that final mission. I also took Tali and Garrus along on the final mission just in case because I figured it'd be harder for them to die that way. If I could have Kaidan, Ashley (if she was still alive), Wrex, and Liara back in excange for the whole ME2 squad, I'd totally do it.

This happens to me all the time though, my favorite characters always get knocked off. I still remember watching the original power rangers and suddenly all three of my favorite rangers, red, black, and yellow, are never seen again. It was so devastating :(


I guess I am one of the few people here that played ME 2 before purchasing ME 1?

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I agree, but the manner in which said negativity is couched makes all the difference. If you know what you will say will ****** the other person off than it means that person won't think clearly and so will probably form their arguments in a faulty manner. If people really want to hear their opponents' reasoning in a sound manner, I think negativity must be couched in an objective and unsensational manner. I have inadvertently started too much melodrama over misplaced sensationalist language that I used to color my arguments. One example in particular leaps to my mind.


Nah, I think my language was perfect.

Hopefully people won't ever make the mistake again that Garrus is some universally loved god-character.


Ah, the irony of that statement.  Thank you, you just told me everything I needed to know.  And with that, I go.