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Primed by Baldur's Gate? (ending spoilers)


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Did anyone else have a far easier time making the decision to impregnate Morrigan (despite severe misgivings, seeing as my male mage was pretty much in love with Alistair) because you've played Baldur's Gate?

I've seen a lot of talk about the danger of unleashing an evil devil's child on the world, but it seems to me that that's a rather narrow point of view. Morrigan was, at the end, as trust-worthy as any of my companions. With the right care, any demon spawn can become a hero, and even those that started out tyrants can be redeemed (why yes, I do think Sarevok's redemption is some of the best character work Bioware has ever done).

Maybe it's my history as bhaalspawn that made me think giving Morrigan an old god to care for so Alistair and my mage could go on being Grey Wardens together for the next 30 years was a good idea, but I regret nothing XD

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Anybody who's read "Good Omens" knows that even the Anti-Christ can be a pretty cool guy.

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Indeed, he can. *high five of Good Omens love*

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I don't feel Morrigan can redeem the child. She is evil and self serving. She cares about nothing but her self. If anything, she will use the child to gain unlimited power and take over the world. More likely, she will be killed by the child and heroes will have to deal with her and the Grey Warden's selfish mistake.

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I don't see Morrigan as evil. Self-serving isn't the same thing, and a lot of people are self-serving in pretty much every regard - only the truly selfless manage to avoid being self-serving (the Tranquil are a great example of that) and that's not exactly a desirable or healthy trait.



Morrigan's morals aside, she does have the capacity to love deeply and the child would benefit from that in ways she might never allow for a lover. Morrigan is insecure, but she's not actually as cold or hard as she wants people to believe.

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I don't buy it. Morrigan's motives here are for bad things, not good ones. This is her chance to gain ultimate power(or die trying), nothing more.

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How does she gain "ultimate power" by mothering the physical humanoid form of a Taint-free Old God?

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*possible spoiler*

... by using Flemeth's take-over-the-daughter-technique?


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She'll possess it like her mother did to her countless sisters before her, inheriting the power of the old god. And I'm not so sure it is taint free since the child came from a Grey Warden who are tainted. That taint has got to pass to the child as well.

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Perhaps, but wouldn't an empty/weak-minded vessel be more useful for the take over/possession than one with the ancient and powerful soul of an old god in it? I'd imagine it would be kind of crowded in there and the old god doesn't give up his/her hold on the fleshy bits easily, as we've already learned.

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Yeah, so how does Morrigan gain ANYTHING by possessing the Old God's new body? She boots the mind out, and the Old God dies... so what's the point of that? The body itself is nothing special. It's the mind/soul that is the powerful part.

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We don't know how it works. The simple fact that the essence of the old god was in the child's body could make the shell incredibly powerful. Morrigan even comments earlier in the game that Flemeth probably sent her out to become more powerful so her mother could inherit that higher power making her even more powerful than she was before. With the information given, there is no way to know either way. But I honestly cannot think of a single reason for Morrigan to want to raise this child if not to increase her own power. She is not the motherly and altruistic type.

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But it wasn't really HER choice to do it, it was her mother's. Morrigan just happened to agree with the reasoning behind it.



At least, that's what she says.



Grrr... the devs are being annoyingly silent on just about everything.

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I'm certain they left it so ambiguous so that there would be constant discussion on it. In my opinion, it shows very good writing that there could be so many interpretations on a certain character's actions like this.