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fchopin wrote...

For me any thread that tells people who disagree with the op not to post should be locked automatically.


OP just wants trolls, haters and people with no contructive or meaningful arguments to stop polluting her thread. Like the last Female Hawke topic.

I am sure she's okay with people voicing their opinions. But when some random John Doe walks in and says "lulz never female sucks. go back to kitchen/get on my horse imho", then what are you expecting? Surely not a pat on the back.


.....

This false PR myth that female protagonists can't
sell games or movies has to end. There is a social responsibility that
lies herein.


Right..well... don't look at me, I didn't start this argument, just said the well known fact.:wizard:

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 21 août 2010 - 05:20 .


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I didn't say ALL trolls are mindless....much fun can be had trolling from time to time...

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fchopin wrote...

If i create a thread to criticise a part of the game i expect all people to voice there views even if they are against me.
 
If i ask people who agree with me to post only that for me is idiotic and should not be allowed.
 
If the person who created the thread is not strong enough to defend her views then she has no business creating a thread in the first place.
 
For me any thread that tells people who disagree with the op not to post should be locked automatically.


Well, in all fairness there's cultured debate about a particular point of view (for example the value or lack of value in portraying Fem!Hawke in DA2's marketting campaign, but there's also trying to argue with someone who is adamantly arguing that you aren't a real person. The latter isn't very condusive and tends to lead to defensive behaviour.

Also, this thread is pretty-much a petition for the appearance of Fem!Hawke in screens/trailers/etcetera. You generally don't ask people to sign a petition if they don't support what it's about.

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HagSpawn wrote...

More fan art :)

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Oh wow, I love it <3

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yukidama wrote...

HagSpawn wrote...

More fan art :)

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Oh wow, I love it <3


I shall print this picture on cheesecake!

*Does so and hands everyone a mini cheesecake.*

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Hell Mutant wrote...

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Hell Mutant wrote...

Do want to see Lady Hawke. Do want to see a Lady Hawke trailer.


Zero chance for BLUR to make the cinematic trailer.


I'm not a moron, I know it's not happening, what's done is done. It's not like they are going to go back and re-make the trailer. They didn't think it was worth the budget to do it for DAO either, but that doesn't mean that I am not going to voice my opinion. How else will Bioware and EA know that there is a demographic that wants to see female protagonists and furthermore, will, in fact buy good games with a female hero.

This false PR myth that female protagonists can't sell games or movies has to end. There is a social responsibility that lies herein.


  I could not agree with you more. As I have said thousands of time; Ladies are several times more awesome than us guys. Bioware is listening though. One of the devs said the will release pictures of LadyHawke soon :D In the live chat it was said again. Also, Mike stated that the customization options for her are really good. The question was if she would have prettier outfits and longer hair and Mike pretty much said yes? Actually he DID say yes for the outfits.

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HagSpawn wrote...

More fan art :)

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This is amazing work! Kudos to you!

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fchopin wrote...

Apollo Starflare wrote...

Avalla'ch wrote...

fchopin wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

As a sidenote, if you're a fan who doesn't care about seeing Marian Hawke, instead of degrading our nice thead, how about you go start your own thread about how you could care less about seeing her. Thanks.



I was going to vote for the female Hawke but after reading your idiotic comment above i have changed my mind.


What? What do you mean? What's so idiotic about her post? Sounds like Trolling 101 to me.


Yeah, to be fair to namedforthemoon there have been some serious trolling attempts of fem!hawke threads in the past, with at least one I know of getting completely derailed and locked. I'd hardly call it idiotic, even if it is a bit blunt. It's not like we don't welcome other opinions in the thread, just some of the mindless complaining seen on the forums is hardly constructive.



If i create a thread to criticise a part of the game i expect all people to voice there views even if they are against me.
 
If i ask people who agree with me to post only that for me is idiotic and should not be allowed.
 
If the person who created the thread is not strong enough to defend her views then she has no business creating a thread in the first place.
 
For me any thread that tells people who disagree with the op not to post should be logged automatically.


you know what's idiotic?
hate and flaming and **** slapping on these forums
also insulting a group of people, can't be justified
*women are inferior-women are stupid-women can't play games coz they r noobs..buahahaha.*
*previous tread* was locked due to idiocy and jerkiness some of the posters presented us in all their wisdom 

no one is saying that you are forbidden to voice your own opinion
whole point is don't insult and  be nice is not that freaking hard=]

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fchopin wrote...
 
For me any thread that tells people who disagree with the op not to post should be locked automatically.


What's that, Timmy? The troll's stuck in the well? Oh well **** him. I got better **** to do.


I really do wish developers were a little be more aware of the inadvertent sexism in their advertising approaches. The females that do make it into trailers are almost always over sexed, or pink. This isn't to say males in trailers aren't along similar veins but the fact that the male protaganists are given dominance in games that are meant to gender neutral speaks to the bias of either the developers or the market they wish to attract.

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Sex sell. Nuff said.



At least sexism isn't like it was not that long ago with women always in the kitchen making sammiches for men, Or sometimes other women.

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Loria232 wrote...

fchopin wrote...

Apollo Starflare wrote...

Avalla'ch wrote...

fchopin wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

As a sidenote, if you're a fan who doesn't care about seeing Marian Hawke, instead of degrading our nice thead, how about you go start your own thread about how you could care less about seeing her. Thanks.



I was going to vote for the female Hawke but after reading your idiotic comment above i have changed my mind.


What? What do you mean? What's so idiotic about her post? Sounds like Trolling 101 to me.


Yeah, to be fair to namedforthemoon there have been some serious trolling attempts of fem!hawke threads in the past, with at least one I know of getting completely derailed and locked. I'd hardly call it idiotic, even if it is a bit blunt. It's not like we don't welcome other opinions in the thread, just some of the mindless complaining seen on the forums is hardly constructive.



If i create a thread to criticise a part of the game i expect all people to voice there views even if they are against me.
 
If i ask people who agree with me to post only that for me is idiotic and should not be allowed.
 
If the person who created the thread is not strong enough to defend her views then she has no business creating a thread in the first place.
 
For me any thread that tells people who disagree with the op not to post should be logged automatically.


you know what's idiotic?
hate and flaming and **** slapping on these forums
also insulting a group of people, can't be justified
*women are inferior-women are stupid-women can't play games coz they r noobs..buahahaha.*
*previous tread* was locked due to idiocy and jerkiness some of the posters presented us in all their wisdom 

no one is saying that you are forbidden to voice your own opinion
whole point is don't insult and  be nice is not that freaking hard=]


My opinion is that kind of crap really just needs to be reported and ignored. People get too much enjoyment out of seeing people freak out to care that what they are saying is just really screwed up. Even if they don't actually believe what they are saying.

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HagSpawn wrote...

More fan art :)

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This is awesome. There's an almost tribal look to her as if she were an American Indian or some other Indigenous person. It's tough but still noticeably feminine and not very LotR or DnD esque which I appreciate a lot.

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I can see that this thread is full of trolls so i will say good luck to you all.

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fchopin wrote...

I can see that this thread is full of trolls so i will say good luck to you all.

"Okay Dokay"
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Hmm? What about trolls?

Why are we cursing too? I thought we were talking about Fem!Hawke here, and DA2.

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Lady_Scarlett wrote...
Why are we cursing too? I thought we were talking about Fem!Hawke here, and DA2.


Curses?! Quick take this pinch of salt and throw it over your left shoulder. Or was it right shoulder? Damn my poor memory! It has doomed us all!

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Mike Laidlaw wrote...

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It will be nice to see her when she appears, hopefully she won't be the scantily clad kind of appearance.


No more scantily clad than the armors in origins. We don't reall go in for the chainmail bikini 'round here.


Form fitting bodysuit of chainmail would be just as fine!

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Chainmail is actually quite figure-hugging, too. I remember when we all tried some on in a classics trip years ago. It does look very nice, very nice indeed.

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I'm loving all the fan art, it's great! I've added it all to the OP.



Also, opinions are welcome, but trolling is not. Take your big wooden spiked clubs and fishing line elsewhere if you're gonna be trolling. It's that simple.



Oh, to the person (sorry, I can't remember what your name was) that asked why we're trying to get the name changed, we're not trying to get the name changed. Just want to see what name people prefer, because we're partial to Etain (some of us, that is) over Marian. But we're not in the slightest asking Bioware to change the name of Lady Hawke.



Okay, I have to go to work pretty soon, so I hope to see some more totally awesome fan art and banners when I get back!




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That Lady Hawke picture is pretty cool what is that from?

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One of our fellow forumites, HagSpawn, created it.

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I meant This one

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Oh! That is Etain from the movie Centurion.

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I read on the previous page that female protagnists(of thats the word) cant sell video games and I would like to just say that that is complete and utter bull**** I point to Tomb Raider and Heavenly Swords take that corporate Udina poo poo pople

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Mubar wrote...

I read on the previous page that female protagnists(of thats the word) cant sell video games and I would like to just say that that is complete and utter bull**** I point to Tomb Raider and Heavenly Swords take that corporate Udina poo poo pople


AGREED, damnit! Lady Hawke could kick their stupid, trashy rear-ends out of this universe too.