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Riona45 wrote...
Golden-Rose wrote...
So, who here is planning on creating a female mage Hawke? I certainly am. Apostate sisters? Hell yes.
I intend to make a mage Hawke, and I do indeed intend for her to be an apostate.
We should make a club 
Lucy_Glitter wrote...
Eveline Hawke.
yukidama wrote...
DaerogTheDhampir wrote...
Plenty of guys play games where women are the main character, why do some women have a problem with a male as the main character? That's just sad.
What are you talking about? That isn't the case at all. We don't have problems playing as male characters. What we're arguing is that there are so many video games where you can only play as a male that it would be nice to see a female used in advertising for a game where you can play as a female. How many games have male protagonists? The vast majority of them do, and females still play them. Is it really so bad to want to play as a kickass female main character who isn't half naked and mostly there just so guys can ogle at her?
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Plenty of guys play games where women are the main character, why do some women have a problem with a male as the main character? That's just sad.
Anyway, Female hero being marketed sounds great, certainly it was Leliana who got the most attention out of the Sacred Ashes trailer. If people miss out because they don't wish to find information for themselves, oh well. If a "hack n slash" or fantasy rpg intrigues them, they should check it out and not discount it merely because there is a dude on the cover.
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Chris Priestly wrote...
I am the "mod" being talked to (and apparently being hostile, although I fail to see how. I thought we were both being pretty civil). Just so you know, I am not just "a mod" I am BioWare's Community Coordinator and I run these forums. I think if you are going to be chatting with me and reporting on what I say here, you should know who you are chatting with.
As I said in the private messages, we close ALL threads on the same topics. If a thread on, for example, Hawke's shoes is open and has 10 pages of boot vs. sandal discussion and someone else starts a thread saying "I hope Hawke wears boots in DA2", we close it and direct people to the already in existance thread. If someone is talking in generalities where the actual topic is not identical or similar enough to warrant closing, it is left open. This is done at the judgement of staff and moderators. We make mistakes and, depending on how fast threads move between pages, miss some threads. We cannot be everywhere all the time and rely on our friendly and helpful community to point out issues like this. I have yet to see any complaints or questions as to why "Y" thread was not locked when "X" is still open with actual threads. If you have them, please send them to me in a PM (not here as I do not want to further derail this thread).
For the record: BioWare GREATLY values it's female gaming audience. It also values it's male gaming audience who prefer to play female PCs. Just because you have yet to see a video with female Hawke (I do think 5 days after the first trailer of any sort may be a touch soon for complaints, but I know you are passionate for it, so I understand) does not mean that we do not care.
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or maybe <_< depending on the specific meaning. And yea, this is a vague post on my part, but that statement made me think of something that could potentially ****** me off, but I don't want to put words in anybody's mouth if I'm not quite sure what they mean.
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DaerogTheDhampir wrote...
yukidama wrote...
DaerogTheDhampir wrote...
Plenty of guys play games where women are the main character, why do some women have a problem with a male as the main character? That's just sad.
What are you talking about? That isn't the case at all. We don't have problems playing as male characters. What we're arguing is that there are so many video games where you can only play as a male that it would be nice to see a female used in advertising for a game where you can play as a female. How many games have male protagonists? The vast majority of them do, and females still play them. Is it really so bad to want to play as a kickass female main character who isn't half naked and mostly there just so guys can ogle at her?
I was just saying how the poster said that some women dismissed ME, ME2, and DA:O because it had a male protagonist being portrayed, which I consider a sad reason. The sex of the hero shouldn't determine gameplay in one's mind, as a female can act just like a male, and vice versa. That's all I mentioned, I am aware of there being more male main characters than females and I agree that women being portrayed as sex symbols is not very good on a constant basis, same with men being portrayed as barbaric ape people.
I am in full support of a Lady Hawke in a marketing trailer, but dismissing DA2 because of a male being marketed is as bad as dismissing it if it had a female being marketed.
Modifié par jln.francisco, 23 août 2010 - 04:44 .
smitty1984 wrote...
here is ladyHawke
jln.francisco wrote...
The temptation is to great. Kirkwall is supposed to be some Templar controlled military state. How could we not create an apostate mage?
And of course, having already been a Circle mage in DA:O, I'd prefer to play an apostate this time.
Fangirl17 wrote...
Im so doing this too
jln.francisco wrote...
Plenty of guys play games where women are the main character, why do some women have a problem with a male as the main character? That's just sad.
The issue is often with the way the lead is portrayed. A lot of women I know who play games just find it impossible to relate to any of them and find their dialogue somewhere between humourously stupid and offensive.
And no it isn't sad. You aren't enlightened so please don't start acting like some self righteous tool.
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Riona45 wrote...
Fangirl17 wrote...
Im so doing this too
I'd certainly join.
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DaerogTheDhampir wrote...
jln.francisco wrote...
Plenty of guys play games where women are the main character, why do some women have a problem with a male as the main character? That's just sad.
The issue is often with the way the lead is portrayed. A lot of women I know who play games just find it impossible to relate to any of them and find their dialogue somewhere between humourously stupid and offensive.
And no it isn't sad. You aren't enlightened so please don't start acting like some self righteous tool.
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Well, that's my bad I suppose, didn't mean to come off like that. I apologize for that.
DaerogTheDhampir wrote...
yukidama wrote...
DaerogTheDhampir wrote...
Plenty of guys play games where women are the main character, why do some women have a problem with a male as the main character? That's just sad.
What are you talking about? That isn't the case at all. We don't have problems playing as male characters. What we're arguing is that there are so many video games where you can only play as a male that it would be nice to see a female used in advertising for a game where you can play as a female. How many games have male protagonists? The vast majority of them do, and females still play them. Is it really so bad to want to play as a kickass female main character who isn't half naked and mostly there just so guys can ogle at her?
I was just saying how the poster said that some women dismissed ME, ME2, and DA:O because it had a male protagonist being portrayed, which I consider a sad reason. The sex of the hero shouldn't determine gameplay in one's mind, as a female can act just like a male, and vice versa. That's all I mentioned, I am aware of there being more male main characters than females and I agree that women being portrayed as sex symbols is not very good on a constant basis, same with men being portrayed as barbaric ape people.
I am in full support of a Lady Hawke in a marketing trailer, but dismissing DA2 because of a male being marketed is as bad as dismissing it if it had a female being marketed.
Lucy_Glitter wrote...
Damn you Priestly for making a dev tag on this thread - now everyone is going to rush to it thinking new info came out!
omg i feel betrayed...no new info.Chris Priestly wrote...
Lucy_Glitter wrote...
Damn you Priestly for making a dev tag on this thread - now everyone is going to rush to it thinking new info came out!
You know there has been one here ever since Mike Laidlw posted days ago, right?
Chris Priestly wrote...
Lucy_Glitter wrote...
Damn you Priestly for making a dev tag on this thread - now everyone is going to rush to it thinking new info came out!
You know there has been one here ever since Mike Laidlw posted days ago, right?
thank you i've always wanted to try nutella but i'm not brave enough to try it.Fangirl17 wrote...
smitty1984 wrote...
here is ladyHawke
*throws a jar of nutella at smitty and then runs away*
smitty1984 wrote...
thank you i've always wanted to try nutella but i'm not brave enough to try it.Fangirl17 wrote...
smitty1984 wrote...
here is ladyHawke
*throws a jar of nutella at smitty and then runs away*
Apollo Starflare wrote...
I really don't see Bioware as not respecting their female fans... The mods are used to having to deal with 'spam' threads and even just threads that are discussing the same topic as one already open. They try to keep the threads to a minimum for a reason, and they are well aware this thread has been used for discussing equal representation amongst many other Lady Hawke related things so they directed you here. Maybe you havn't noticed but a lot of the character related threads around here end up turning partly into fan art threads because the fans are so passionate about the game they want to express it through art. That hardly means you can't discuss your issues that relate to Lady Hawke here, in fact I would welcome it personally. It keeps awesome threads like this alive.
Edit: Bit harsh to lump all the 'males' on the forum under one banner. I'm a guy and I support Lady Hawke over Garrett Hawke as well as pushing for a return to a marketing strategy that shows off both male and female player characters for Bioware's games. There are some idiots on this forum it's true, but there are plenty of others like me as well.
namedforthemoon wrote...
Apollo Starflare wrote...
I really don't see Bioware as not respecting their female fans... The mods are used to having to deal with 'spam' threads and even just threads that are discussing the same topic as one already open. They try to keep the threads to a minimum for a reason, and they are well aware this thread has been used for discussing equal representation amongst many other Lady Hawke related things so they directed you here. Maybe you havn't noticed but a lot of the character related threads around here end up turning partly into fan art threads because the fans are so passionate about the game they want to express it through art. That hardly means you can't discuss your issues that relate to Lady Hawke here, in fact I would welcome it personally. It keeps awesome threads like this alive.
Edit: Bit harsh to lump all the 'males' on the forum under one banner. I'm a guy and I support Lady Hawke over Garrett Hawke as well as pushing for a return to a marketing strategy that shows off both male and female player characters for Bioware's games. There are some idiots on this forum it's true, but there are plenty of others like me as well.
Oh my god, Apollo, you're a guy?!?
All this time I thought you were a girl!
...I blame your avatar. Sorry 'bout that. I should learn to check people's genders on their profile instead of assuming.
Saibh wrote...
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You're not the only one.
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