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[Vandrayke]

Lord Gremlin wrote...

oenis wrote...

Wow.
There is a time and a place for hosiery, and the battlefield is not one of those places. Male or female, I would be insulted by that design, not because its sexist, but because it insults our collective intelligence.

I definitely agree here. Although I'm more concerned about armor design, in DAO female version of light armor left either neck and upper chest or stomach naked... Which looked ridiculously stupid. And here we have Bethany... Say what you will, people, but what idiot covers her stomach with chainmail only to leave upper chest naked? 

yeah the armor with the stomach exposed looked REALLY dumb.  I can deal with a low neckline.  Also, they can increase the coverage of armor and still keep the sex appeal by working on the shape and making the armor tight.  

[IndigoWolfe]

One thing that I suppose could be argued is that a mage is not meant to be in the melee of battle. They're meant to provide "artillary" support. And they can erect magical barriers to deal with incoming arrows.

I suppose it could be argued that for this reason, Bethany doesn't feel the particular need to swathe herself in chainmail, but it would be a very thin limb to go out in, in my opinion.

Morning Thread!

[Vandrayke]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

One thing that I suppose could be argued is that a mage is not meant to be in the melee of battle. They're meant to provide "artillary" support. And they can erect magical barriers to deal with incoming arrows.

I suppose it could be argued that for this reason, Bethany doesn't feel the particular need to swathe herself in chainmail, but it would be a very thin limb to go out in, in my opinion.

Morning Thread!

Honestly I totally disagree with cramming mages in a "skinny, wearing robes" category.  I mean medics in military units are in shape and they don't wear white lab coats and stethoscopes.  Maybe mages wear lighter armor or something but I think the "weakling wearing robes" stereotype is really played out.  

[tpryan01]

MariSkep wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

One thing that I suppose could be argued is that a mage is not meant to be in the melee of battle. They're meant to provide "artillary" support. And they can erect magical barriers to deal with incoming arrows.

I suppose it could be argued that for this reason, Bethany doesn't feel the particular need to swathe herself in chainmail, but it would be a very thin limb to go out in, in my opinion.

So the chainmail is a fashion statement?

As long as she really is a badass I am ok with the
"I don't need armour because you'll be dead before you notch that arrow"

[IndigoWolfe]

Peripherally related, has this article been linked to yet? It has some interesting facts about the the appeal of player gender to the general gaming demographic that I didn't previously know.

[Vandrayke]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

Peripherally related, has this article been linked to yet? It has some interesting facts about the the appeal of player gender to the general gaming demographic that I didn't previously know.

I know that it was linked to in another thread.  It's an interesting study given how companies like Activision deal with this issue.  

[BlackBaronPils]

CruserBoii wrote...

As long as she keeps the beard.

I'm fairly certain that's how Hawke maintains his power so the female equivalent would need to have glowing eyes and flaming wings for that is the only thing that could match that glorious beard.

[Dreadstruck]

Or a ponytail. Long ponytail. Pretty ponytail!

[addiction21]

Vandrayke wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

One thing that I suppose could be argued is that a mage is not meant to be in the melee of battle. They're meant to provide "artillary" support. And they can erect magical barriers to deal with incoming arrows.

I suppose it could be argued that for this reason, Bethany doesn't feel the particular need to swathe herself in chainmail, but it would be a very thin limb to go out in, in my opinion.

Morning Thread!

Honestly I totally disagree with cramming mages in a "skinny, wearing robes" category.  I mean medics in military units are in shape and they don't wear white lab coats and stethoscopes.  Maybe mages wear lighter armor or something but I think the "weakling wearing robes" stereotype is really played out.  

I know one of the common things with mages is they need the freedom of movement to be casting spells (does not really apply to the DA setting I believe) so they go for something lighter. Generally speaking chainmail was not worn alone but in a combination with some hardened leather/padded/studded armor underneath. It is not so very heavy but it is very fatiguing
To be fair to those Military Medics they are up on the front and have little regard for their own well being so they need that stuff.  Mages are that support they can do their job from a safer distance.
Also from the gameplay sense mages tend to have many more skills to defend themselves and to keep that distance then any other group.

[IndigoWolfe]

BlackBaronPils wrote...

CruserBoii wrote...

As long as she keeps the beard.

I'm fairly certain that's how Hawke maintains his power so the female equivalent would need to have glowing eyes and flaming wings for that is the only thing that could match that glorious beard.

Not entirely true. This is copied from a previous thread.

During my long ninja-infiltration of Bioware's offices and bribing Devs, I've uncovered what they have planned.

I'll admit I am as of yet unaware of what they're going to call it, and I'm still thinking up a good codename. For now I'm going with Femme Fatale Meter. Or just the Fatale Meter for short.

But the female Hawke version of the Manliness Meter won't be the Period system as I mentioned in my thread, there've been cuts to that system and I suspect it will be cut entirely.

What they have their eyes on now is centered around the hair. Female Hawke's will be able to channel their powers of awesome through their hair, allowing for direct control of their flowing locks. It'll be easier from now on if you watch this (starting at 0:45) to provide proper context of what I'm talking about.

When the Fatale Meter is at its lowest levels, you will have to choose one of three styles; the ponytail, the bun or go with loose hair. And Bioware have taken away the option of Female Characters going shaven-head. In short; as you advance your Fatale Meter, you will be able to kill enemies with your hair.

The ponytail's powers will be focused on direct damage, you will be able to lash out with this fifth apendage. Higher levels of the Fatale Meter will unlock upgrades to a braid, combined with the longer length that unlocks the higher tier abilities, your hair will becoming a punishing whip. This style gives an Intimidate bonus and goes well with a Rogue. At the highest levels, your ponytail will be an unstoppable freight train of hair.

The bun will be more focused on defensive abilities, such as expanding into a defensive shield of womanly caratin. High levels will unlock something like what you see in the fan-service game Bayonetta, where your armor is made up entirely of your hair, granting massive bonuses to defense in combat, and an irrisistable Charm outside of it.

Going loose hair will be a balance between the two. Your long, flowing locks will be like an unstoppable wave of herbal-scented death, blowing back enemies with abilities such as "Shampoo Commercial Audition" . Players at the highest level of the Fatale Meter with this style will find themselves using their hair to control the movements of enemies, striking out at multiple opponents at a time. And outside of combat, they will have an irresistable Charm with whoever they meet.

You can choose to let your hair go un-tended to, which allows for additonal combat bonuses, but decreases Cunning, as your out-of-control hair starts growing into your brain.

You will have to Brush your hair periodically, there will be a brushing skill that operates like the Shaving skill for the Manliness Meter.

You will also have a bevy of shampoo options, different types give different bonuses. Greater shine, volume or moisturization. These effect the powers of your hair.

At the Barber Shops, you will have the option of changing your hair style, however this costs quite a bit of money and resets you to either begining-level or mid-level depending on your original level when you got it restyled.

[addiction21]

MariSkep wrote...


So, basically, a mage isn't to be relied upon to actually help if one of his comrades needs to be evacuated or whatever because all the weight would simply be to cumbersome?

If he was the only option sure but I would not want to waste that type of fire support when there are others that could do the job while the mage makes the enemies think twice about getting close or giving chase.

[ErichHartmann]

MariSkep wrote...

So, basically, a mage isn't to be relied upon to actually help if one of his comrades needs to be evacuated or whatever because all the weight would simply be to cumbersome?

*Puts on nerd cap*

Since DA doesn't have a weight/cumbersome system this can't apply.  If the latter were true, certain spells would be present to overcome any natural deficiencies. 

[mllrthyme]

MariSkep wrote...

So, basically, a mage isn't to be relied upon to actually help if one of his comrades needs to be evacuated or whatever because all the weight would simply be to cumbersome?

Or, they could just use a healing spell.

[Vandrayke]

I'm not saying that mages should be decked out and statistically have the armor rating that warriors have. I'm just saying that the "wearing robes" thing is logically stupid. You can wear pants and a shirt and be plenty flexible. And there's no rule that says if you're a mage, you can't exercise.



It's okay if clothes are impractically stylized-- robes are a good example. Similarly, it's fine if the women are a little hotter than normal and the dudes are a little more rugged than normal. And it's fine if some of their armor simply looks cool and doesn't serve a real purpose.

[addiction21]

I got what you were saying. I just have a horrible habit of overthinking, playing devils advocate, and rambling on incoherently.

[Valeria Cousland]

oenis wrote...

Wow.
There is a time and a place for hosiery, and the battlefield is not one of those places. Male or female, I would be insulted by that design, not because its sexist, but because it insults our collective intelligence.

Hence why I suggested Hildegard. She's actually wearing a full suit of armor.

[IndigoWolfe]

Would you consider this to be an acceptable look for Lady Hawke's armor?



It has that conformity that caters to the male audience, but it still looks like... y'know; armor.

[Hilde]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

Would you consider this to be an acceptable look for Lady Hawke's armor?



It has that conformity that caters to the male audience, but it still looks like... y'know; armor.

Yes~! Hildegards armor is beautiful. Even her "dress" in the game seems to have more armor than most. At least its paired with gauntlets and boots.

[Ladybright]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

Would you consider this to be an acceptable look for Lady Hawke's armor?



It has that conformity that caters to the male audience, but it still looks like... y'know; armor.

I'd be totally fine with that!

[joriandrake]

what game is this from? is it on pc?