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smudboy

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Aside from two, ME2's squadmates can all die.

Therefore, it's possible we'll get placeholders if we intend to get a similar, "full ME2" team back.  For example:

Tali->Kal'Reegar->Daro'Xen

What characters would you like to see, and who will they replace?  You can also do this with other characters that might die (Rachni, Hanar, etc.)

Modifié par smudboy, 20 août 2010 - 01:48 .


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Il Divo

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Captain Anderson. From what I hear, he leaves his position as Councilor in the most recent novel. I'd definitely love to see him replace Miranda/Jacob in my squad. He'd be damn more insightful too. I'd like to see him as part of my command crew.

And out of curiosity, is this topic a result of the squad composition thread?

Modifié par Il Divo, 20 août 2010 - 12:15 .


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FasterThanDark

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What if Tali and Reegar both die?



Oh that's right, Veetor!



In all seriousness, if Garrus is dead I'd like to see him replaced with a "proper" turian, since Garrus himself admits he doesn't really act like one. Actually, Vidinos might be an interesting choice there . . .

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luk3us

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If you get everyone killed in ME2 you shouldn't get placeholders at all. You get nothing. ^_^

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FrancisKitt

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Zaeed - Some random bounty hunter, preferably a batarian (mainly because in I think that Zaeed would've been awesome as a batarian with a Londoner's accent).

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luk3us wrote...

If you get everyone killed in ME2 you shouldn't get placeholders at all. You get nothing. ^_^

To be honest, that's how it should be.

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

luk3us wrote...

If you get everyone killed in ME2 you shouldn't get placeholders at all. You get nothing. ^_^

To be honest, that's how it should be.


I believe that is how they will do it. To do the voice overs for both the normal people from ME2 and the place holders would be stagering. I remember reading somewhere before that ME2 had close to double the dialogue compaired to the first game and to do all that extra dailogue for place holders could easily reach 3-4 times compaired to the first game.

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the only one i want repaced is Zaeed....because I killed him on Zorya >=] and I'd prefer if he was replaced by none other that....wait for it.....waaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit for it.....a Reaper! xD (in short I don't take this topic seriously...except for the Zaeed part)

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ADLegend21 wrote...

the only one i want repaced is Zaeed....because I killed him on Zorya >=] and I'd prefer if he was replaced by none other that....wait for it.....waaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit for it.....a Reaper! xD (in short I don't take this topic seriously...except for the Zaeed part)


That's goddam suicide.

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

luk3us wrote...

If you get everyone killed in ME2 you shouldn't get placeholders at all. You get nothing. ^_^

To be honest, that's how it should be.

Agreed

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TelexFerra

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Someone should figure out how many different combinations there are.



I think I once calculated it to 4,083, but I didn't take into account the conditions of the mission. There are certain combination that are impossible, say Mordin, Jack, Legion, and Kasumi for example.

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I find your "placeholder" gimmick funny, but I'll play along because its probably not far from the truth.



ashley/kaidan

miranda/oriana

jack/Escaped convict that sends you an email

grunt/pick a random urdnot

garrus/bailey

tali/veetor

thane/thane's son

samara/liara? (if samara lives, they become mutually exclusive)

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Legion. For obvious reasons. Whatever the role will be assigned to this charater in ME3, in case he was killed on the "suicide mission", or sold to Cerberus, will be filled by Legion v2.0 with appropriate changes in the dialogue.



Possibly Miranda's cameo (only) will be replaced by Oriana's if Miranda was killed.



Everyone else will not have a placeholder.

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ADLegend21

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seriously why would there even be place holders if everyone survived? you've got your small army and you've got real armies backing you against the reapers for real the game should start with harbinger being destroyed by the Thanix canon fo the normandy.

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Jaron Oberyn

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Don't feed the troll guys. This guy has been going on about this for a long time. We already have a stickied topic above smartboy, why not come back home?



-Polite

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MisterDyslexo

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dead zaeed---->canderous ordo

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dead Garrus --> David Caruso

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KainrycKarr

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Cameos

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Throw_this_away

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smudboy wrote...

Aside from two, ME2's squadmates can all die.

Therefore, it's possible we'll get placeholders if we intend to get a similar, "full ME2" team back.  For example:

Tali->Kal'Reegar.

What characters would you like to see, and who will they replace?  You can also do this with other characters that might die (Rachni, Hanar, etc.)


Still running with the placeholders eh? 

I would prefer Kal to Tali any day... but I don't think placeholders will be needed at all for the ME2 squadmates.  At least two must survive to get a ME3 import... so that makes your squad of three.  Add in Kaiden/Ash and maybe Liara as the "jacob and Miranda" of ME3, and you have most of your plot-essential squadmate dialogue covered.  

I don;t think placeholders will be needed because I predict ME3 missions will be more direclty related to the overall reaper plot.  No more character loyalty quests.  All other "old" squadmates would not need to be story/mission essential and would just add color to specific missions with comments and some extra dialogue.  Example: Legion specific dialogue if you bring him on the mission to get the help of the Geth to fight the reapers.  

That being said... most people have ME2 imports where most of their characters survive.  Bioware knows this, and will write ME3 accordingly.  

Modifié par Throw_this_away, 20 août 2010 - 11:15 .


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I am doubtful about this whole "place holders" concept, but I dont think Kal Reager would be one of them. He could die in ME2. Why would he be brought back as fill-in squad mate if he was potentially dead?



Ideas for fill ins:



clone of Grunt

backup copy of Legion

Loki-Mechs



Others would be harder to do... While Miranda's sister might look just like her, she would need almost totally different dialogue...

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smudboy

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That is a good point, that Kal'Reegar can also die.

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Madman123456

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Intro of me3: Shepard gives everyone who survived the suicide mission shoreleave. Everybody has fun on the Citadel, except Shepard who had some more time to study the research on Ilos some more.

With that Knowledge, he reprograms the Reapers to sing "Living in the Sunlight ()" and everyones Head explodes.

With the Citadel now a graveyard, Shepard flies off to become a Game Character that can do every single thing the Game offers, like the Protagonists of "Oblivion" or "Fallout 3"...

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luk3us wrote...

If you get everyone killed in ME2 you shouldn't get placeholders at all. You get nothing. ^_^


Massive Agreement. 



There should be no placeholders of any kind.

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 20 août 2010 - 02:47 .


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Kosmiker

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10 new characters and a family photo of all old chars in Captains Cabin will be enough. Problem solved.

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smudboy wrote...

That is a good point, that Kal'Reegar can also die.


Going to need a placeholder placeholder.