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[FsDxRAGE]

sitting on a nuke usually kills people.

Although if this conspiracy turns out to be true... I don't even know what I would do, lol

[MisterDyslexo]

MisterDyslexo wrote...

I think they'll come back as a clone, with their mind indoctrinated. They'll probably use fake & stupid science mumbo-jumbo to explain it, such as:
1. Got ahold of their DNA and had a record of their brainwaves
2. Its a different type of nuke that can't affect certain elements, like that of the structure the person who isn't near the bomb may be inside (that would obviously only apply partially though)
3. The geth used some sort of Halo-esque bubble shield which protected them and the squadmate from the blast, and they captured them
4. They were killed by gunfire, their corpse was taken during the geth's escape, and brought back to life later with their uber-advanced tech (even though they'd more likely husk-ify it)

Its total bs, but I'm sure Bioware could make it believable

I forgot another common one, where the nuclear blast knocks their conciousness into some sort of electrical field and it merges with a geth dropship AI.

[BellatrixLugosi]

Rana States in me2 that she escape's in a utility pod. Kaiden/Ash didn't have that. Some people forget things I guess

[Spartas Husky]

BellatrixLugosi wrote...

Rana States in me2 that she escape's in a utility pod. Kaiden/Ash didn't have that. Some people forget things I guess

we dont know. lol maybe kai/ash escaped in another pod too... and crashed landed just on another part of virmire.... with no way to communicate with the outside galaxy, she/he lives "happily" ever after eating bananas, and coconuts

[didymos1120]

Ash is ash. Or Kaidan is, as the case may be. Not even enough left to fill that mug Liara has waiting for the Shadow Broker.

[BellatrixLugosi]

Spartas Husky wrote...

BellatrixLugosi wrote...

Rana States in me2 that she escape's in a utility pod. Kaiden/Ash didn't have that. Some people forget things I guess

we dont know. lol maybe kai/ash escaped in another pod too... and crashed landed just on another part of virmire.... with no way to communicate with the outside galaxy, she/he lives "happily" ever after eating bananas, and coconuts

All this seconds before the bomb goes off.  Watch the cutscene again and again, I understand your hope, and I hate to crush it but (SLAP) snap out of it

[RedHawk89]

in my opinion, they're gone. There's nothing left of them. The explosion could be seen from Orbit.

The only thing I wonder about is how the asari scientist escaped. Maybe she found a ship somewhere.

Bet she'll be back in ME3

[AresXX7]

RedHawk89 wrote...

in my opinion, they're gone. There's nothing left of them. The explosion could be seen from Orbit.

The only thing I wonder about is how the asari scientist escaped. Maybe she found a ship somewhere.

BellatrixLugosi wrote...

Rana States in me2 that she escape's in a utility pod. Kaiden/Ash didn't have that. Some people forget things I guess

this^

Bet she'll be back in ME3

well, Zaeed did say Shep's decision to let her go, again, will bite him/her in the ass
so who knows...

Modifié par AriesXX7, 21 août 2010 - 06:25 .

[RedHawk89]

Nice of Saren to keep those utility pods around. lolol



Reminds me of Indiana Jones escaping a nuke by hiding in a fridge. Oh wait...I wish that didn't happen...I wish that movie was never made.

[Tychu9]

I never liked that ending. I purposefully walked around without going past the invisible "lets start the cinema" line to show that I had time to get to the bomb and help out both squadmates

[didymos1120]

RedHawk89 wrote...

Nice of Saren to keep those utility pods around. lolol

Reminds me of Indiana Jones escaping a nuke by hiding in a fridge. Oh wait...I wish that didn't happen...I wish that movie was never made.

Her line is "Had to outrun a nuke in a utility pod...".  Outrun.  I.e., she didn't hide in some little box in the corner of the lab or something. She had a small vehicle of some sort.

[Arijharn]

 I hope they are dead... what a cheap way to negate a tough decision otherwise.

[Spartas Husky]

BellatrixLugosi wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

BellatrixLugosi wrote...

Rana States in me2 that she escape's in a utility pod. Kaiden/Ash didn't have that. Some people forget things I guess

we dont know. lol maybe kai/ash escaped in another pod too... and crashed landed just on another part of virmire.... with no way to communicate with the outside galaxy, she/he lives "happily" ever after eating bananas, and coconuts

All this seconds before the bomb goes off.  Watch the cutscene again and again, I understand your hope, and I hate to crush it but (SLAP) snap out of it

what hope?

lol I merely stated my great dream of never finding the "nuked" teammate.

he remains MIA.... I like to think he/she remained in virmire eating bananas to survive.

DO I want to meet em?....well since they both turn out to be ****s in ME2..... if I meet the "survivor" there is a very big chance, I would just kill him/her on the spot. Either one is blind so doesn't matter.

I actually rather have that chance... let em survive, so I can blast em out an airlock, it will be most satisfying.

[Canned Bullets]

They'd probably just get vaporized.

[Persephone]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

It's obvious that whoever survives Virmire will become the Shepard to Shepard's Saren, no need for the other to miraculously survive.

Now that's a SCARY thought. Esp. if they are your LI.

[Asheer_Khan]

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

Of course there was no body seen. Ash/Kaiden was at ground zero for a nuclear blast. There was no body to be seen.

How would Ash/Kaiden outrun a nuclear blast? That would be incredibly lame storytelling if either one 'respawns' after Virmire. They should be permanently dead. Thankfully, I think I remember one of the devs confirming awhile back that whoever you left on Virmire is dead, and permanently so.

Well... devs says many things in the past in regard of Mass Effect series which at the end turned on as nothing more as PR talk (for example that choices made in ME 1 will have big impact on  ME 2...<_<).

But i agree that sudden bringing back from dead whoever was left on Virmire would be pretty lame move... but in perspective of VO costs this "nuke-necromancy" seems rather logical since both VO actors are still in team.

[ThatDancingTurian]

Asheer_Khan wrote...

but in perspective of VO costs this "nuke-necromancy" seems rather logical since both VO actors are still in team.

I'm not sure how paying two people to record extra 'indoctrinated lines' (since either could be the Virmire'd one) would be cheaper than hiring a single different actor to read the lines as a different character. It doesn't seem like a money-saving solution to me, since I think VAs charge by the line.

[Throw_this_away]

I think we all need to remember that the videos are not real time (at least we have no proof of that). For example... the nuke was set at the same time no matter who you choose to save. Thus it should detonate at the same time. If you choose to save the squadmate at the bomb, than there is plenty of time for a ship (sarens geth ship) to pick up your other squadmate. If you can get to orbit in that time... so can they.

The timeline of the video is shorter if you save the squadmate at the tower... but again, the time from the activation of the bomb to its detonation should be identical. We know they show a shot of the squadmate against the bomb shooting just before a clip of the explosion... but we have no proof that it is real time given that the alternate scenario takes longer. Also, other videos in the game are not cut scene to scene in real time. So why this one?

It will be lame, but the squadmates will be back in ME3.The fact that so many people are resistnt to this idea makes it a perfect plot twist.  No one will see it coming. 

Modifié par Throw_this_away, 21 août 2010 - 02:09 .

[Badpie]

Rana was high tailing it out of there long before the bomb went off. Sure she was lucky, but it's not unbelievable that she managed to escape the blast.



Saren left before Shepard did. Why would you wonder how he escaped?



Kaidan or Ash were pinned down someplace or sitting ON the bomb. They weren't mobile or trying to escape. They were holding ground.



I don't know why you would think the video wasn't in real time. The urgency of it and the the way it was edited all suggest that the last few seconds of the Normandy's escape and such were all happening as they happened.



As much as I love both Kaidan and Ashley I think I'd be kind of disappointed if they were still alive. It would be kind of a cheap plot device, though I'm not sure the writers are above that.

[tonnactus]

Everything is possible after the "lazarus project".

[Badpie]

tonnactus wrote...

Everything is possible after the "lazarus project".

Just really expensive.

Plus I'm not so sure you could actually recover a "body" or even skin cells or DNA from a nuclear blast.

[Fiery Phoenix]

tonnactus wrote...

Everything is possible after the "lazarus project".

Sure. We can Lazarus Project anyone who gets killed with a nuclear blast. :innocent:

[mosor]

Rogue Unit wrote...

I'm sure getting blown up by a nuke that you were leaning against leaves little chance for survival.

How the hell did Rana survive, she didn't even have a combat suit? No one can run that fast.

[BellatrixLugosi]

mosor wrote...

Rogue Unit wrote...

I'm sure getting blown up by a nuke that you were leaning against leaves little chance for survival.

How the hell did Rana survive, she didn't even have a combat suit? No one can run that fast.

You obviously haven't looked a few post's above you

[Spartas Husky]

ANything within the immiditate few hundred meters was turned to glass. W/e was stone is not different in its composition from what was flesh... or electronics lol