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[KainrycKarr]

Well worth it.

[escalinci]

Yes, but only slightly. (not in comparison to the main game, on it's own merits) Were it disc release, I'd wait for a price drop or look for an offer. Given the single purchase point of add-ons, that's not an option, so I bought everything so far, and they're all commendable and different experiences.  You certainly can't label any of it a cash in.

But my argument would be this; Digital distribution cuts out distribution costs, there's lower marketing costs due to existing awareness, and of course existing engine and assets. Of course not 100% of people who by the game buy the DLC, but there it is.

I would have been giddy to download Firewalker and Kasumi at 400 points a piece, and The Lair of the Shadow Broker at maybe 680?  But I judge value not in terms of length, but in content quality and enjoyment, and there's certainly been that.

Modifié par escalinci, 10 septembre 2010 - 11:44 .

[Spartas Husky]

Is woth 800, if anything related to armors, and weapons is free. ANd since the armors and weapons aren't free, then is not worth 800, by a long shot



Is taking perspective, if 800 is worth the shadow broker, then overlord is probably not worth more than 300. Meaning, kasumi is on the same level, and thus weapons and armor, are nowhere near 180 mp of cost.

[Jaron Oberyn]

The DLC isn't expensive at all. If you understood how much work it takes to produce these, then you'd probably feel compelled to pay more. 5-10 dollars is cheap/average.



-Polite

[Throw_this_away]

javierabegazo wrote...

I think the argument is useless because I don't just play the DLC once, just as much as I don't play a game that I paid 60$ just once.

If anything, the DLC like Kasumi and Overlord are less than the cost of going to the Movie Theatres, and they entertain me for a great deal longer.
Next time you're eating out, look at how much you spend on simple things like food or beverages, or if you're older, a pack of cigarettes or a 6 pack of beer, or that cheap bottle of wine.
No, I don't think the DLC is that expensive at all

this. 

[Chuvvy]

A TV movie film cost around twenty dollars. And you're usually getting less than two hours of content. Some DLC is over priced because it's bad quality. But ME2 DLC is god tier.

[Hathur]

blackrhubarb 2.0 wrote...

2-3 hours for 800 points blows.

An invalid argument if you've ever gone to a movie theater and paid for your own ticket.

[AdamNW]

Completely worth it.

[kingsteve1515]

Thought Kasumi's DLC only cost 560 points which is around 7-8 dollars. Not too bad. LotSB is $10 but its well worth it.

[Moondoggie]

Price of DLC is all relitive to costs. To be a sucessfull company you need to be making money. So if you spent more money developing a DLC because you wanted to go with demand for something bigger and better then it'll cost more to make and that;s when you need to charge a bit more to cover production costs. Somebody eirlier mentioned how DLC cuts down costs of distribution but that's really a non factor in costs. Lot's of staff work on these things from character modelers to voice actors and all need to be paid so the costs all add up. It's not cheap to make DLC just like it isn't cheap to make a video game. I don't mind paying a couple of dollars more when it's tons better than what i paid $7 for. And really whats $7 to pay for something thats infinately replayable from when you pay for it? You get to enjoy it as much as you want for just $7. Some places you'll pay that much to watch a movie at the cinema just one time.

[javierabegazo]

Hathur wrote...

blackrhubarb 2.0 wrote...

2-3 hours for 800 points blows.

An invalid argument if you've ever gone to a movie theater and paid for your own ticket.

Not only for movie tickets, but for anything to be purchased in general.  Want a nice lunch and beverage? That'll probably be around $8-15 depending on where you are. People want hi fidelity DLC, yet refuse to pay any proper sum. That VA isn't cheap.

[atheelogos]

a few bucks for content I can replay for years sound like a good deal to me, but then again maybe I'm just crazy.

Modifié par atheelogos, 11 septembre 2010 - 10:11 .

[Spartas Husky]

javierabegazo wrote...

Hathur wrote...

blackrhubarb 2.0 wrote...

2-3 hours for 800 points blows.

An invalid argument if you've ever gone to a movie theater and paid for your own ticket.

Not only for movie tickets, but for anything to be purchased in general.  Want a nice lunch and beverage? That'll probably be around $8-15 depending on where you are. People want hi fidelity DLC, yet refuse to pay any proper sum. That VA isn't cheap.

that is why I download movies. Cook at home, and never buy stuff outside my home

800 for the lotsb is not bad.... on its own right, but all the others that came before em sure aren't worth the price.

Simple division.. If Shadow broker is 800, what should the firepower pack, or the aegis pack cost??? probably not even 50 mp.

If shadow broker is 800, how much 2 rifles should have cost?

[Moondoggie]

Spartas Husky wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Hathur wrote...

blackrhubarb 2.0 wrote...

2-3 hours for 800 points blows.

An invalid argument if you've ever gone to a movie theater and paid for your own ticket.

Not only for movie tickets, but for anything to be purchased in general.  Want a nice lunch and beverage? That'll probably be around $8-15 depending on where you are. People want hi fidelity DLC, yet refuse to pay any proper sum. That VA isn't cheap.

that is why I download movies. Cook at home, and never buy stuff outside my home

800 for the lotsb is not bad.... on its own right, but all the others that came before em sure aren't worth the price.

Simple division.. If Shadow broker is 800, what should the firepower pack, or the aegis pack cost??? probably not even 50 mp.

If shadow broker is 800, how much 2 rifles should have cost?

So you're some sort of cheapazoid hermit? Since you're so good at downloading pirate things why not just download pirate DLC too? Add Bioware to the list of pirated material you steal from companies who work hard to make it.

[Vargeisa]

It's only too expensive when the product is lacking in quality.



$1 for a cup of coffee that tastes like crap is too expensive.

$2 for a cup of coffee that tastes like heaven is very cheap.



So yeah, there have been DLC that were way too expensive and DLC that were worth every buck and then some.

[Hathur]

Edit: nvm misread the quote.

Modifié par Hathur, 12 septembre 2010 - 02:04 .

[Kiely]

Ten years ago most of this DLC would have been released with the original game or as a full expansion. Now they have a system that allows them to release games and then charge you for additional content for those games as it is developed. And that is all well and good when the content is of high quality and a reasonable length. I view it as being very similar to old school PnP RPGs - you bought the rule books and maybe a module came with them and then you buy additional modules as you went along



But there is an element of buyer beware. If people are going to simply run out and buy DLC regardless of its quality or substance than we will get what we deserve, (i.e., crap). I see a lot of comparisons to movies and that is a decent one. Maybe just like movies people should wait and see what the reviews are like before throwing away their money on crap?



I think the WH DLC has ruffled a few feathers because it is somewhat obvious that Bioware took the opportunity to capitalize on many fans' love of Morrigan and the loose ends in the story. They knew people would run out and buy it. What they seem to have delivered is a dud. If people will continue to rush out and spend their money on DLC regardless of quality than the DLC quality will likely decline. After all why spend more money to make a higher quality product when you'll sell roughly the same number of units by spending less? I don't think Bioware is like that but I know their parent company is (e.g., Madden).



Is some DLC overpriced and simply not worth it? Yes.



But other DLC is well worth the money.



It will take discerning gamers to keep the game companies making DLC that has value and isn't just an attempt to capitalize on gamers' attachment to games, characters, etc...

[RideUrLightning]

At first, I thought so. But once I played all three episodic DLCs, I realized how much quality and value was found in each pack. Overlord had some excellent vehicle combat that reminded me of the Mako days, as well as an excellent story. Kasumi is just an epic squad member, and her loyalty mission was my favorite out of everyone's. And of course LotSB, my favorite, did everything right, and gave you some nice goodies at the end for the real fans. I say the DLC is totally worth it.

[Mykel54]

Mass effect 2 DLC in general is very reasonable on price/quality, unlike other companies who use the dlc to systematically cut content of the original game to sell it later at atrocious prices. In general i don´t like the dlc system, but at least Bioware is making a good use of it (instead of milking the consumers) and they have my respect because of it.

[Giltspur]

ShadoX_LV wrote...

Am I the only one who seems to think that the DLC is too expensive? I'm talking about Kasumi and Overlord. Both of them cost almot 5 euro which is roughly 1/6 of the price that I paid for the game itself.. And I'm assuming that their not even that long.. probably just a hour or 2 max.

I would love to get that DLC, but it seems to be way too expensive considering what you get with it.. :s

I know that no one is forcing me to buy it, but I just felt like posting about it.. :s

So the DLC is 1/6 the price of Mass Effect 2. Is Mass Effect 2 6x more valuable than Kasumi or Overlord?  Yes, it is.  That means Mass Effect 2 is a better value than its DLC  But that doesn't mean the DLC is a bad value.  Given how good Mass Effect 2 is and given how much I played it, it was a steal at $50.  I don't expect things to usually be that good a value, including its DLC.  But I still don't mind the price: it's more of something that I already know that I like at a price I don't mind.

I will of course feel better about giving them more money for DLC if they look at the Liara DLC and do more stuff like that.  This whole side-mission-that-fits-in-before-the-ending DLC is orders of magnitude less appealing than "bridge" DLC.

Modifié par Giltspur, 12 septembre 2010 - 03:11 .

[kalle90]

javierabegazo wrote...
If anything, the DLC like Kasumi and Overlord are less than the cost of going to the Movie Theatres, and they entertain me for a great deal longer.

This... But also, these DLCs cost atleast 1/10 of the full price. The DLCs last for 3 hours tops if I take it really slow while the main game lasts around 30 hours if I take it slow = again 1/10.

My problem with this DLC is that it drains all space on my Xbox hard drive. And Liara DLC wasn't much longer yet it was twice as big

[Moondoggie]

[quote]kalle90 wrote...

[quote]javierabegazo wrote...
If anything, the DLC like Kasumi and Overlord are less than the cost of going to the Movie Theatres, and they entertain me for a great deal longer.[/quote]

This... But also, these DLCs cost atleast 1/10 of the full price. The DLCs last for 3 hours tops if I take it really slow while the main game lasts around 30 hours if I take it slow = again 1/10.

My problem with this DLC is that it drains all space on my Xbox hard drive. And Liara DLC wasn't much longer yet it was twice as big[/quote]

The legnth isn't as big a factor as the content. LotSB has a lot of heavy detail level design and extra dialogue i guess it all adds up.

[CatatonicMan]

It really depends on what you are comparing it to.

If you compare the DLC to, say, food, movies, coffee, or whatever, the price could be seen as decent. If you compare the DLC to the game it is extending, the price will be about 1.5 to 2 times too high.

If you go by the first, then it would be perfectly reasonable to say that ME2 proper should cost around 1.5 to 2 times what it did. The question then becomes, would you have spent double on the game when you bought it originally?

If the DLC is priced correctly, then the main game was sold at a large discount. If the main game was priced correctly, then the DLC is overpriced.

Moondoggie wrote...

Add Bioware to the list of pirated material you steal from companies who work hard to make it. 

I just need to point out that copyright infringement is not theft.

Modifié par CatatonicMan, 12 septembre 2010 - 08:10 .

[vigna]

No, well worth it...Firewalker..not so much.