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But of course it's not awkward or hilarious at all that your character is getting down in their underwear. Dry humping doesn't really scream romantic, or love, it's just ridiculous; and not to shoot myself in the foot, but I'd just rather fade to black altogether than endure that kind of stupid.

No offense. Why include an adult situation if you don't plan on handling it with the maturity and taste that your fans/community have come to respect from every other aspect of your games. It sticks out like a sore thumb when other companies are pushing the boundaries for acceptable content, yet as a juggernaut yourselves you stand back not because of taste, im my opinion, but because you are afraid of the media wolves.


I don't think DAO was without its own risque elements, and if there's a battle to be fought over anything you'll have to forgive us if we choose which hills we want to die on. Even so, if there's an improvement to be made to romantic scenes I don't think it necessarily means more nudity. Perhaps it means a change to how those scenes are rendered.


Or maybe nudidity implied through camera angles and sillhouettes like in mass effect 1?


There was a little more than just silhouettes there, but yeah, ME1 is the golden standard of game sex scenes that weren't laughable.

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Archereon wrote...

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Or maybe nudidity implied through camera angles and sillhouettes like in mass effect 1?

You'll just have to wait and see, won't you?


*Jedi mind trick*

You will tell us what the scenes in DA2 will be like...

You have to at least see the person for that to work...I think....^_^

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AlexXIV wrote...

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What i find hilarious beyond all belief is that Dragon Age is Mature rated correct? Meaning, to purchase the game you MUST be 17 or older. In the US, 17 is more or less considered an adult, and in some states IS considered an adult. What i dont understand is why they continue to censor and change their Mature rated games for these little kids. Its "M" rated. No kid should be playing it, period. My personal feeling is parents who buy a "M" rated game for anyone under 17 should see a heavy fine and/or jail time. Sick and tired of reading news articles where parents are trying to sue "X" gaming company because Little Timmy saw a set of breasts, place the blame where it belongs, on the parents, and stop censoring games that are INTENDED for ADULTS age 17 or older.


That's what bothers me.  When the ratings are ignored by parents (who don't bother to monitor what they're buying their children), it becomes everyone else's fault if their children play a game (or watch a movie, etc.) that isn't appropriate for them.  By all means, developers should make whatever game they want to make but I find the idea that they should design content around a consumer base that the rating clearly dictates the game was not intended for annoying.

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What!? You haven't played Mass Effect?........

Get off the net. Buy the game. See you in about 45 hrs.


But this thread is interesting!    I'll order it right now.


Thing is parents are not the only ones responsible for you. The whole society is. That's why we have laws and cops and not just parents.


I am responsible for me...and if I'm not society can punish me.  We have laws because, sadly, not everyone is responsible.  As a member of society, I object to the idea that I am responsible for other people's children.  I am responsible for ensuring that I do that nothing to harm them but I'm hardly in a position to influence or monitor their lifestyle.  I don't think the whole "It takes a village..." thing is meant to be taken literally.

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Arrtis wrote...

Archereon wrote...

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Or maybe nudidity implied through camera angles and sillhouettes like in mass effect 1?

You'll just have to wait and see, won't you?


*Jedi mind trick*

You will tell us what the scenes in DA2 will be like...

You have to at least see the person for that to work...I think....^_^


:?
Well its worth a try...

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Really? Wow. Glad I'm not one of your kids.


I suggest you have kids and then try to monitor them every second of their life. Maybe you change your mind then. And I am also glad you are not one of my kids.


I despise children and were it up to me I wouldn't have any. Wifey however seems to love the little parasites and I really don't want to get into it with her. So while I will have the opportunity to take you up on your offer, I will instead roll with the punches and not fault my neighbors for failing to instill discipline in my children. But I doubt we see eye to eye on what's appropriate for children anyway so even if my hypothetical children turned out alright by my standards, I don't think you'd approve of them.

btw, that's just my way of saying we should drop this.

Modifié par jln.francisco, 20 août 2010 - 11:07 .


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The force is strong in that one, simple mindtricks won't work on him...



Anyway, I think it is ridiculus.. Underwear doesn't take away immersion for me. In fact I couldn't care less about the sex scenes in some rendered pixels after the initiation of the scene, kinda like "ok I'm having sex now, great.. I scored the artificial girl.. lets get on with the game"

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Arrtis wrote...

We need shadows going into positions.
A bright light ensues and they are in a new position,
SUch a thing should only happen during a love scene with a mage.


Or strobe lights.

A lot of strobe lights.

(seizure warning)

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 20 août 2010 - 11:04 .


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nhsk wrote...

The force is strong in that one, simple mindtricks won't work on him...

Anyway, I think it is ridiculus.. Underwear doesn't take away immersion for me. In fact I couldn't care less about the sex scenes in some rendered pixels after the initiation of the scene, kinda like "ok I'm having sex now, great.. I scored the artificial girl.. lets get on with the game"


This.

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jln.francisco wrote...

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Really? Wow. Glad I'm not one of your kids.


I suggest you have kids and then try to monitor them every second of their life. Maybe you change your mind then. And I am also glad you are not one of my kids.


I despise children and were it up to me I wouldn't have any. Wifey however seems to love the little parasites and I really don't want to get into it with her. So while I will have the opportunity to take you up on your offer, I will instead roll with the punches and not fault my neighbors for failing to instill discipline in my children. But I doubt we see eye to eye on what's appropriate for children anyway so even if my hypothetical children turned out alright by my standards, I don't think you'd approve of them.


I don't remember offering anything, I merely made a point that parents are not the only ones responsible. They are, of course, to a degree.

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My pa said school will teach me everything I need to know.....Was he soooooo wrong.....

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Anyway, I think it is ridiculus.. Underwear doesn't take away immersion for me. In fact I couldn't care less about the sex scenes in some rendered pixels after the initiation of the scene, kinda like "ok I'm having sex now, great.. I scored the artificial girl.. lets get on with the game"


I couldn't care less about the sex scenes either but only because they are so poorly done they actually detract from the game experience. So does all that underwear nonsense and Morrigan suddenly sprouting a push up bra. 

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My pa said school will teach me everything I need to know.....Was he soooooo wrong.....


I learned a lot actually. How to take a punch, how not flee from a large group of people, how to covertly screw each and every one of them over... 

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Personally, I think Mass Effect 1 had the best romance scenes. It had tastefully done nudity with the naughty bits covered and pretty much conveyed the romantic feeling in the scene.

Mass Effect 2's sex scenes were alright and at least (though the location of the Shepard and Miranda romance scene was at a poor location making it more like a porno flick) but cut off to a black screen before any actual nudity was shown. It could've been better but I wasn't suprised at the quality of it.

Dragon Age: Origins' sex scene was crappiest of the sex scenes of the 3 games. It switched to different points of the sex scene, which I found to be fairly good, but the fact that your character is a emotionless husk visually throughout the game and appears that way somewhat duirng the sex scene makes it feel more tasteless in my opinion. Not to mention that you see the characters in their under garments through out the scene makes it feel more cheap and crappy.

Modifié par Urazz, 20 août 2010 - 11:14 .


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I installed a mod that was supposed to make them more, realistic, would be the word I suppose. It worked, hehe. Interesting screen shots, but in a way, I thought they were more tasteful than the strange underwear.

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jln.francisco wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

My pa said school will teach me everything I need to know.....Was he soooooo wrong.....


I learned a lot actually. How to take a punch, how not flee from a large group of people, how to covertly screw each and every one of them over... 

And the world is worse for it....well whatever :innocent:

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HoboBoxerJoe wrote...

I installed a mod that was supposed to make them more, realistic, would be the word I suppose. It worked, hehe. Interesting screen shots, but in a way, I thought they were more tasteful than the strange underwear.


Well, there won't be a toolset for Dragon Age 2, and frankly, I think the "better sex scenes" could have been done more tastefully...

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jln.francisco wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

My pa said school will teach me everything I need to know.....Was he soooooo wrong.....


I learned a lot actually. How to take a punch, how not flee from a large group of people, how to covertly screw each and every one of them over... 

That last one could be interpreted a number of ways Jln . . .

Modifié par thegreateski, 20 août 2010 - 11:19 .


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Cover them with a blanket, or fade to black.



Or go nude, but having them bump and grind in their underpants was just pitiful and hilarious at the same time. The most glaringly awkward, immersion-shattering facepalm moment in the entire game.



Earlier in the thread someone said that nude mods would be the first made... hate to smash your dreams, but I think Bioware declared DA2 wouldn't be modifiable :(.

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HoboBoxerJoe wrote...

I installed a mod that was supposed to make them more, realistic, would be the word I suppose. It worked, hehe. Interesting screen shots, but in a way, I thought they were more tasteful than the strange underwear.

Ah a nudity mod.  Those do improve the quality of the scene but that generally raises the rating of the game to be higher than it's supposed to be had Bioware done that themselves.  I don't expect Bioware to make their sex scenes have that much nudity or they'd have to raise the rating.  I expect a more Mass Effect 1 type sex scene at the best or Mass Effect 2 type sex scene where we change scenes before we see anything really naughty.

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Archereon wrote...

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I installed a mod that was supposed to make them more, realistic, would be the word I suppose. It worked, hehe. Interesting screen shots, but in a way, I thought they were more tasteful than the strange underwear.


Well, there won't be a toolset for Dragon Age 2, and frankly, I think the "better sex scenes" could have been done more tastefully...


Aren't there like 3 options for them? Mild, hot,  and zesty I think. Did you really find all of them tasteless? I use zesty and haven't seen anything I would consider in poor tastes.

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jln.francisco wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

My pa said school will teach me everything I need to know.....Was he soooooo wrong.....


I learned a lot actually. How to take a punch, how not flee from a large group of people, how to covertly screw each and every one of them over... 

That last one could be interpreted a number of ways Jln . . .


It's not gay if you're wearing boots.

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Archereon wrote...

HoboBoxerJoe wrote...

I installed a mod that was supposed to make them more, realistic, would be the word I suppose. It worked, hehe. Interesting screen shots, but in a way, I thought they were more tasteful than the strange underwear.


Well, there won't be a toolset for Dragon Age 2, and frankly, I think the "better sex scenes" could have been done more tastefully...


Aren't they simply updating the current toolset for DA2?

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You all realize that any sex scene in the game would be told from Varric's perspective right?



Implications . . . disturbing.

Modifié par thegreateski, 20 août 2010 - 11:23 .


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jln.francisco wrote...

Archereon wrote...

HoboBoxerJoe wrote...

I installed a mod that was supposed to make them more, realistic, would be the word I suppose. It worked, hehe. Interesting screen shots, but in a way, I thought they were more tasteful than the strange underwear.


Well, there won't be a toolset for Dragon Age 2, and frankly, I think the "better sex scenes" could have been done more tastefully...


Aren't there like 3 options for them? Mild, hot,  and zesty I think. Did you really find all of them tasteless? I use zesty and haven't seen anything I would consider in poor tastes.


I haven't seen all of them, and really haven't tried the mod out much, but from what I've heard...It's pretty bad.

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You all realize that any sex scene in the game would be told from Varric's perspective right?



implications . . . disturbing.


So don't ingest!

(Anyone get that joke?)