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HagSpawn wrote...

I don't see why they can't be naked but tastefully hide the "naughty" bits with limbs ect and clever camera angles and movement poses.


This^

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Freek on a Leesh wrote...

HagSpawn wrote...

I don't see why they can't be naked but tastefully hide the "naughty" bits with limbs ect and clever camera angles and movement poses.


This^

Yah like what they have done in all the Bond Films for thirty or so years.

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Naughty bits!



*giggles and runs away*

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Gemaphrodite wrote...

Naughty bits!

*giggles and runs away*


That couldn't have been more fitting given your avatar.

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i'm sure i'm not the only one who thinks these sex scenes are pretty unnecessary anyway...



yes to romance, sex scenes i can live without....

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Gemaphrodite wrote...

Naughty bits!

*giggles and runs away*


That couldn't have been more fitting given your avatar.


I know, riiiight? I'm so mischievous! Image IPB

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Gemaphrodite wrote...

Naughty bits!

*giggles and runs away*

No, no harvester sex scenes please.

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I like naughty bits :(

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The me1 way was good so would have no problem if that is what we see in da2.

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fchopin wrote...

The me1 way was good so would have no problem if that is what we see in da2.


^^This.

As it has been said repeatedly, ME1-style sex scene would be great. (I even liked the weird thump thump music)

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I have not seen this ME1 naughty scene. I like the idea of "weird thump thump music"

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I have noticed it but sex in RPG games is very common these days. Its a little scary almost but i guess it fits seeing as how you are suppost to be living someone's life. That is the point of almost every RPG is to play out someones life as you would. But if you really want to complain about sex scenes, go to japan where they have games based around sex.

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This sex scene was too strong for America.. Warning for some it's strong stuff :-) Fahrenheit Sex scene



If Bioware could do it like that,but they don't have the balls :-)




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I see movies like Hostel banned in e.g. Burma or Ukraine, but not in US or Germany (Hostel: Part II was released uncut in USA). Showing pure violence and sadism in movies with real actors on a high level of realism is ok, but when it comes to pixel sex or pixel blood in games rated 18+, things are getting tense.



While it’s ok to show a victim’s knee being drilled by a psychopath in a movie, a blue rendered sideboob is an ultimate evil and final cause of all rapes on this planet.

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sorrowandsadness wrote...

I see movies like Hostel banned in e.g. Burma or Ukraine, but not in US or Germany (Hostel: Part II was released uncut in USA). Showing pure violence and sadism in movies with real actors on a high level of realism is ok, but when it comes to pixel sex or pixel blood in games rated 18+, things are getting tense.

While it’s ok to show a victim’s knee being drilled by a psychopath in a movie, a blue rendered sideboob is an ultimate evil and final cause of all rapes on this planet.



You know that is a great point...The only thing i can think of is because you cannot really rate a game on the same scale as a movie and i honestly have never heared of a Adult Only game.

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fchopin wrote...

The me1 way was good so would have no problem if that is what we see in da2.


Yes, it was good. Great, in fact. Tasteful and respectful of the characters, with the camera angles making sure everything remained decent, and it really showed the romantic feelings between the characters. Like many good movies do, so there's actually no reason not to do it like that in video games too.

Unfortunately, the media created a controversy out of nothing, and even though they protested back then, sure enough BioWare/EA caved in. So now "the scenes" in ME 2 are almost as ridiculous as in DA. They justified it with just as pretty words as in this thread, but of course everyone can see the truth. And apart from that, they want to sell their games to the broadest audience possible now. So you better not expect even ME 1 style cutscenes in DA 2.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 21 août 2010 - 02:03 .


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I never liked simulation type games. Personally i find car games to be extremely boring since that is the stuff you can do in real life(albeit there are many cars to choose from they still feel the same way). Same with sex. They should focus more on abilities, customization, story(me2 was severely laking in this category) and realism(proper physics; like when your sword cuts something and you can see some proper blood splatter/marks/severed limbs ) then simulation stuff like Games4ever shown. I never cared for romance subplots.

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Seifz wrote...

And seriously, stop acting like Europe is some magical place where sex and nudity are okay while the US is some land full of prudes.  There's plenty of sex and nudity to be found here.  Indeed, I'd say that I encounter something sexual or sexually suggestive far more often here than I ever did in the UK, Germany, or elsewhere.  The people making a big deal out of nudity here are a very, very small minority.  Mostly, they're religious fanatics and people who just want to be on TV.  You know, the "think of the children" types.  Idiots, really.  The vast majority of us are just fine with sex and nudity.   Hell, look at where most of the porn comes from!  :)


I'm not - I'm going by what I see, that's all. For example - I saw a French mobster movie not long ago about a crime spree in the 70s (Public Enemy No. 1 - can't recommend it enough) where the main character tends to like the ladies. He picks up a girl at a bar and we cut to them having sex in a dimly lit room with her on top, moaning in pleasure. Both characters are nude, you see breasts but nothing more. The whole thing doesn't last more than 5 seconds, but it seems appropriate and contextual in that film, just as ME1 showing a bit of flesh and snuggling seemed appropriate and contextual there.

I do think we reach an artistic impasse when developers claim to be making games that are adult and mature, yet consistantly have to compromise that because some parent might buy their child a game without looking at the box. If anything, I think the PEGI system's method of providing specifics of content; violence, gore, sexual innuendo, drug usage etc would greatly help if the ESRB adopted it. At least what was in the game would be clearly marked before purchase and you could only blame the parents who ignore it.

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I'm not - I'm going by what I see, that's all. For example - I saw a French mobster movie not long ago about a crime spree in the 70s (Public Enemy No. 1 - can't recommend it enough) where the main character tends to like the ladies. He picks up a girl at a bar and we cut to them having sex in a dimly lit room with her on top, moaning in pleasure. Both characters are nude, you see breasts but nothing more. The whole thing doesn't last more than 5 seconds, but it seems appropriate and contextual in that film, just as ME1 showing a bit of flesh and snuggling seemed appropriate and contextual there.

I do think we reach an artistic impasse when developers claim to be making games that are adult and mature, yet consistantly have to compromise that because some parent might buy their child a game without looking at the box. If anything, I think the PEGI system's method of providing specifics of content; violence, gore, sexual innuendo, drug usage etc would greatly help if the ESRB adopted it. At least what was in the game would be clearly marked before purchase and you could only blame the parents who ignore it.


Agreed.

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slimgrin wrote...

Delerius_Jedi wrote...


I'm not - I'm going by what I see, that's all. For example - I saw a French mobster movie not long ago about a crime spree in the 70s (Public Enemy No. 1 - can't recommend it enough) where the main character tends to like the ladies. He picks up a girl at a bar and we cut to them having sex in a dimly lit room with her on top, moaning in pleasure. Both characters are nude, you see breasts but nothing more. The whole thing doesn't last more than 5 seconds, but it seems appropriate and contextual in that film, just as ME1 showing a bit of flesh and snuggling seemed appropriate and contextual there.

I do think we reach an artistic impasse when developers claim to be making games that are adult and mature, yet consistantly have to compromise that because some parent might buy their child a game without looking at the box. If anything, I think the PEGI system's method of providing specifics of content; violence, gore, sexual innuendo, drug usage etc would greatly help if the ESRB adopted it. At least what was in the game would be clearly marked before purchase and you could only blame the parents who ignore it.


Agreed.


Seconded.

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Niarviel wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Delerius_Jedi wrote...


I'm not - I'm going by what I see, that's all. For example - I saw a French mobster movie not long ago about a crime spree in the 70s (Public Enemy No. 1 - can't recommend it enough) where the main character tends to like the ladies. He picks up a girl at a bar and we cut to them having sex in a dimly lit room with her on top, moaning in pleasure. Both characters are nude, you see breasts but nothing more. The whole thing doesn't last more than 5 seconds, but it seems appropriate and contextual in that film, just as ME1 showing a bit of flesh and snuggling seemed appropriate and contextual there.

I do think we reach an artistic impasse when developers claim to be making games that are adult and mature, yet consistantly have to compromise that because some parent might buy their child a game without looking at the box. If anything, I think the PEGI system's method of providing specifics of content; violence, gore, sexual innuendo, drug usage etc would greatly help if the ESRB adopted it. At least what was in the game would be clearly marked before purchase and you could only blame the parents who ignore it.


Agreed.


Seconded.


I approve of this post. ;)

I mean seriously, why do we even have ratings in the first place, if people who ignore the rating throw up a huge fuss over nudity/sexuality/mature themes in an M rated game?

Honestly!

Read the frikken box!!!

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Most don't read the box because they think "Oh its a game, there can't possibly be anything bad in it" because, not to bash anyone, most only remember the harmless little pong games and puzzle games from their youth and think video games cannot have nudity or violence in them.

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Niarviel wrote...

Most don't read the box because they think "Oh its a game, there can't possibly be anything bad in it" because, not to bash anyone, most only remember the harmless little pong games and puzzle games from their youth and think video games cannot have nudity or violence in them.


Have they also been living under a rock? I can't go five feet without bumping into some hyped up over sexed game/movie/show/what have you.

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jln.francisco wrote...

Niarviel wrote...

Most don't read the box because they think "Oh its a game, there can't possibly be anything bad in it" because, not to bash anyone, most only remember the harmless little pong games and puzzle games from their youth and think video games cannot have nudity or violence in them.


Have they also been living under a rock? I can't go five feet without bumping into some hyped up over sexed game/movie/show/what have you.


True, but there are still some that know little to nothing about technology and video games these days, and some don't even read the boxes, they just do what they kids ask of them to make the kids shut up and behave. And i digress again...There will always be censorship in america because we are not as awsome as japan.

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Niarviel wrote...

jln.francisco wrote...

Niarviel wrote...

Most don't read the box because they think "Oh its a game, there can't possibly be anything bad in it" because, not to bash anyone, most only remember the harmless little pong games and puzzle games from their youth and think video games cannot have nudity or violence in them.


Have they also been living under a rock? I can't go five feet without bumping into some hyped up over sexed game/movie/show/what have you.


True, but there are still some that know little to nothing about technology and video games these days, and some don't even read the boxes, they just do what they kids ask of them to make the kids shut up and behave. And i digress again...There will always be censorship in america because we are not as awsome as japan.


At least we don't have to deal with the mosaics.