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[WilliamShatner]

Santiri_azz wrote...

It's either fade to black or nudity otherwise it looks stupid. I'd prefer fade to black.
OP is right tho, isn't DA2 an M rated game? BW stop being bigots. Apparently seeing mauled bodies, rivers of blood,decapitations is ok but a pair of ****** isn't. lol wtf?

Actually it's more like "Disgusting mutated six breast monster nudity = ok, normal human nudity = bad."

[thegreateski]

You all are making a great deal of noise over a lack of clothes . . .

[Iokastos]

WilliamShatner wrote...

Santiri_azz wrote...

It's either fade to black or nudity otherwise it looks stupid. I'd prefer fade to black.
OP is right tho, isn't DA2 an M rated game? BW stop being bigots. Apparently seeing mauled bodies, rivers of blood,decapitations is ok but a pair of ****** isn't. lol wtf?

Actually it's more like "Disgusting mutated six breast monster nudity = ok, normal human nudity = bad."

Lmao indeed, censorship is getting ridiculous

[Bryy_Miller]

Marionetten wrote...

nhsk wrote...

Why do we care? It's animated pixels, and if the story goes along with what we see it doesn't really matter.

We care because it harms the authenticity and believability of the setting. Something which is rather important for an RPG.

Dude, it's a video game. There many, many things that harm the authenticity a lot more than the inability to get naked. Like, say, using a keyboard to move your character.

[MKDAWUSS]

Unnecessary Censorship only reminds me of one thing: Jimmy Kimmel

[Bryy_Miller]

slimgrin wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

Just remembered in ME2 in the KAsumi DLC they censored the David statue. Not even classical sculpture gets away.

That would be a travesty were it not so humorous.

I've seen that statue's unit in countless magazines and art books, on tv, in ads...and people at Bioware can't bear the site of it - an almost childish move on their part.

Oh please, at least it was done tastefully. At least they did not give him a pair of pants (which still would have been funny).

[Vandrayke]

slimgrin wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

You all are making a great deal of noise over a lack of clothes . . .

We're discussing censorship, which I think is worth making some noise over.

people like to raise hell when it comes to nudity censorship like there's some core moral principle they are fighting for, when in reality, they want to see some T&A and are trying to find righteous ground to stand on. 

I agree that censorship can be more than a little ridiculous at times, but so can waxing revolutionary about wanting naked characters in games.  

[UberDuber]

Are you dissing Morrigan's thick bra?

[JRCHOharry]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

Just remembered in ME2 in the KAsumi DLC they censored the David statue. Not even classical sculpture gets away.

That would be a travesty were it not so humorous.

I've seen that statue's unit in countless magazines and art books, on tv, in ads...and people at Bioware can't bear the site of it - an almost childish move on their part.

Oh please, at least it was done tastefully. At least they did not give him a pair of pants (which still would have been funny).

I think I would have enjoyed the sight of Michelangelo's David wearing Levi Jeans.

[bzombo]

slimgrin wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

You all are making a great deal of noise over a lack of clothes . . .

We're discussing censorship, which I think is worth making some noise over.

i'm very anti-censorship, but i don't see where bioware was censored, really. if bioware chose to censor itself then they did what they wanted and left it at that. there was a great deal of nudity in dragon age. i don't think bioware was chased down by bible wielding prudes saying "no naughty business!" i think bioware just chose a certain path. although the medieval looking lingerie was a bit amusing and goofy, i don't think bioware wanted complete nudity and sex. i just don't think it was their goal. i could be wrong, but i don't think that was their aim. the witcher is a different game with a different theme. cd projekt chose that path. for bioware to do it i think it would seem forced. boobies for the sake of boobies. i thought the nudity was fairly natural. if there was more nudity, it wouldn't bother me, but i'm not sure it would make sense coming from bioware.

[Vandrayke]

bzombo wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

You all are making a great deal of noise over a lack of clothes . . .

We're discussing censorship, which I think is worth making some noise over.

i'm very anti-censorship, but i don't see where bioware was censored, really. if bioware chose to censor itself then they did what they wanted and left it at that. there was a great deal of nudity in dragon age. i don't think bioware was chased down by bible wielding prudes saying "no naughty business!" i think bioware just chose a certain path. although the medieval looking lingerie was a bit amusing and goofy, i don't think bioware wanted complete nudity and sex. i just don't think it was their goal. i could be wrong, but i don't think that was their aim. the witcher is a different game with a different theme. cd projekt chose that path. for bioware to do it i think it would seem forced. boobies for the sake of boobies. i thought the nudity was fairly natural. if there was more nudity, it wouldn't bother me, but i'm not sure it would make sense coming from bioware.

I agree.  And yes, the lingerie was very bad.  

[Nerevar-as]

bzombo wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

You all are making a great deal of noise over a lack of clothes . . .

We're discussing censorship, which I think is worth making some noise over.

i'm very anti-censorship, but i don't see where bioware was censored, really. if bioware chose to censor itself then they did what they wanted and left it at that. there was a great deal of nudity in dragon age. i don't think bioware was chased down by bible wielding prudes saying "no naughty business!" i think bioware just chose a certain path. although the medieval looking lingerie was a bit amusing and goofy, i don't think bioware wanted complete nudity and sex. i just don't think it was their goal. i could be wrong, but i don't think that was their aim. the witcher is a different game with a different theme. cd projekt chose that path. for bioware to do it i think it would seem forced. boobies for the sake of boobies. i thought the nudity was fairly natural. if there was more nudity, it wouldn't bother me, but i'm not sure it would make sense coming from bioware.

In ME same sex romances were removed even after dialogues were recorded and files in game. It´s not as if we lack precedents.

[Marionetten]

bzombo wrote...

i'm very anti-censorship, but i don't see where bioware was censored, really. if bioware chose to censor itself then they did what they wanted and left it at that. there was a great deal of nudity in dragon age. i don't think bioware was chased down by bible wielding prudes saying "no naughty business!" i think bioware just chose a certain path. although the medieval looking lingerie was a bit amusing and goofy, i don't think bioware wanted complete nudity and sex. i just don't think it was their goal. i could be wrong, but i don't think that was their aim. the witcher is a different game with a different theme. cd projekt chose that path. for bioware to do it i think it would seem forced. boobies for the sake of boobies. i thought the nudity was fairly natural. if there was more nudity, it wouldn't bother me, but i'm not sure it would make sense coming from bioware.

Did what they wanted?

They had full on sex scenes with people wearing clothes for crying out loud. If this isn't self-censorship then I don't know what is. I'll take boobies for the sake of boobies over the current censorship for the sake of censorship dogma.

Modifié par Marionetten, 20 août 2010 - 06:43 .

[hexaligned]

bzombo wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

You all are making a great deal of noise over a lack of clothes . . .

We're discussing censorship, which I think is worth making some noise over.

i'm very anti-censorship, but i don't see where bioware was censored, really. if bioware chose to censor itself then they did what they wanted and left it at that. there was a great deal of nudity in dragon age. i don't think bioware was chased down by bible wielding prudes saying "no naughty business!" i think bioware just chose a certain path. although the medieval looking lingerie was a bit amusing and goofy, i don't think bioware wanted complete nudity and sex. i just don't think it was their goal. i could be wrong, but i don't think that was their aim. the witcher is a different game with a different theme. cd projekt chose that path. for bioware to do it i think it would seem forced. boobies for the sake of boobies. i thought the nudity was fairly natural. if there was more nudity, it wouldn't bother me, but i'm not sure it would make sense coming from bioware.

Agreed, I'm not sure "censorship" is a good word for what they did.  It's not like it's illegal, they just market their games at kids, making little Jimmy console gamer have to try and convince his mom to buy a game with boobs is going to hurt sales.  If anything it's a matter of greed winning out over art, not art suffering because of censorship.

Modifié par relhart, 20 août 2010 - 06:43 .

[Vandrayke]

meh I really enjoy sexual themes but animated sexual images look so incredibly forced and cheesy to me.

[tmp7704]

Marionetten wrote...

With The Witcher 2 coming out with full frontal nudity (..)

Does it, actually? If you recall, the US version of first Witcher was censored. Wait and see if the same doesn't happen to the sequel before you declare it as fact.

[Vandrayke]

slimgrin wrote...

I'm fine with the path that Bioware chooses in their games. They handle most adult themes pretty well. But since their games have sex and romance, give those parts the same attention you would everything else. Don't make it an after thought and show Shepard snuggling with body armor on, or the love scenes in DA:O.

true enough.  If you're gonna include it, do it right.  Honestly I would have preferred fade to black and dialog over the embarrassingly awkward scenes from DA:O.  

[bzombo]

Marionetten wrote...

bzombo wrote...

i'm very anti-censorship, but i don't see where bioware was censored, really. if bioware chose to censor itself then they did what they wanted and left it at that. there was a great deal of nudity in dragon age. i don't think bioware was chased down by bible wielding prudes saying "no naughty business!" i think bioware just chose a certain path. although the medieval looking lingerie was a bit amusing and goofy, i don't think bioware wanted complete nudity and sex. i just don't think it was their goal. i could be wrong, but i don't think that was their aim. the witcher is a different game with a different theme. cd projekt chose that path. for bioware to do it i think it would seem forced. boobies for the sake of boobies. i thought the nudity was fairly natural. if there was more nudity, it wouldn't bother me, but i'm not sure it would make sense coming from bioware.

Did what they wanted?

They had full on sex scenes with people wearing clothes for crying out loud. If this isn't self-censorship then I don't know what is. I'll take boobies for the sake of boobies over the current censorship for the sake of censorship dogma.

full on sex scenes? they fade to black. not exactly a full on sex scene. of course, my experience is only with lelianna, morrigan, and the brothel. i don't know if female wardens get longer sex scenes.

[xyzmkrysvr]

If Bioware is going to continue to cesor sex scenes, I think they should do it like The Sims.



Characters should jump under the covers and giggling should ensue.

There should also be fireworks. Because when I have sex, there are always fireworks. Duh.

[bzombo]

Vandrayke wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

I'm fine with the path that Bioware chooses in their games. They handle most adult themes pretty well. But since their games have sex and romance, give those parts the same attention you would everything else. Don't make it an after thought and show Shepard snuggling with body armor on, or the love scenes in DA:O.

true enough.  If you're gonna include it, do it right.  Honestly I would have preferred fade to black and dialog over the embarrassingly awkward scenes from DA:O.  

but they do fade to black. they only show them lying down for a short period of time. i think the "fade to black" is where one would assume the underwear comes off.

[Dansayshi]

The difference with TW2 and DA2 is that 1 is an American company, the other is European. Censorship still exists in America, but hey, in afew years it wont, its a crumbling wall.