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[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

tj987654321 wrote...

Shavon wrote...

@ TJ . . . I understand that ME2 feels like you have more dialog with each party member on the ship, but there is more than double of them. In ME1, you actually get to know each party member much more so, than most of the members in ME2. Most. A few have almost the same amount of dialog, but much of that is on the loyalty missions.

Fortunesque is also backing it up with facts, here. It's indisputable. ME2 is TPS with a story, and some minor rpg elements. ME1 was a rpg with shooter elements, and it allowed the game to be much more personal with crew members as well as the story as a whole.

Just sayin'

How many times have you played through ME 1 and 2?

You can finish the main story with 90% of the dialogue in 8-10 hours in ME.

It takes about 20-22 hours to finish the main storyline of ME 2 to get 80% of the dialogue.

I'm glad you just tried to make up random facts right there.

I beat ME2 in 14 hours... doing everything but N7 missions.

[kraidy1117]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...
My source says the following:

Average ME1 score:
Press: 9.1 (out of 62 ratings)
Readers: 9.1 (out 9245 ratings)

Average ME2 score:
Press: 9.3 (out of 112 ratings)
Reader: 9.2 (out of 4021 ratings)

That's from IGN. And, really, those are averages from thousands of people, and IGN has a pretty diverse cross section of gamers.

I think that user is goingoff profesol reviews....

Press reviews are professional reviews...

And I'm just goign to throw this out there, but "professional reviewers" are still biased people too.

Shhh don't tell people that! They won't beleive you! These people can't be bribed like normal people!

[fortunesque]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

tj987654321 wrote...

Shavon wrote...

@ TJ . . . I understand that ME2 feels like you have more dialog with each party member on the ship, but there is more than double of them. In ME1, you actually get to know each party member much more so, than most of the members in ME2. Most. A few have almost the same amount of dialog, but much of that is on the loyalty missions.

Fortunesque is also backing it up with facts, here. It's indisputable. ME2 is TPS with a story, and some minor rpg elements. ME1 was a rpg with shooter elements, and it allowed the game to be much more personal with crew members as well as the story as a whole.

Just sayin'

How many times have you played through ME 1 and 2?

You can finish the main story with 90% of the dialogue in 8-10 hours in ME.

It takes about 20-22 hours to finish the main storyline of ME 2 to get 80% of the dialogue.

I'm glad you just tried to make up random facts right there.

I beat ME2 in 14 hours... doing everything but N7 missions.

Also, ME2 is comprised of a lot of ducking and shooting. That's why it takes longer...

[kraidy1117]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

tj987654321 wrote...

Shavon wrote...

@ TJ . . . I understand that ME2 feels like you have more dialog with each party member on the ship, but there is more than double of them. In ME1, you actually get to know each party member much more so, than most of the members in ME2. Most. A few have almost the same amount of dialog, but much of that is on the loyalty missions.

Fortunesque is also backing it up with facts, here. It's indisputable. ME2 is TPS with a story, and some minor rpg elements. ME1 was a rpg with shooter elements, and it allowed the game to be much more personal with crew members as well as the story as a whole.

Just sayin'

How many times have you played through ME 1 and 2?

You can finish the main story with 90% of the dialogue in 8-10 hours in ME.

It takes about 20-22 hours to finish the main storyline of ME 2 to get 80% of the dialogue.

I'm glad you just tried to make up random facts right there.

I beat ME2 in 14 hours... doing everything but N7 missions.

ME2 took me 50 hours on my first playthrough.................

[Kaiser Shepard]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

tj987654321 wrote...
And if that doesn't  prove my point, look at what game and recieved stellar reviews and what game revieved "very good" reviews.

Because the "simple majority" is always correct, infallible, and pointless to argue against, right?

Of course, that's why democracy is so perfect a system.

[kraidy1117]

fortunesque wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

tj987654321 wrote...

Shavon wrote...

@ TJ . . . I understand that ME2 feels like you have more dialog with each party member on the ship, but there is more than double of them. In ME1, you actually get to know each party member much more so, than most of the members in ME2. Most. A few have almost the same amount of dialog, but much of that is on the loyalty missions.

Fortunesque is also backing it up with facts, here. It's indisputable. ME2 is TPS with a story, and some minor rpg elements. ME1 was a rpg with shooter elements, and it allowed the game to be much more personal with crew members as well as the story as a whole.

Just sayin'

How many times have you played through ME 1 and 2?

You can finish the main story with 90% of the dialogue in 8-10 hours in ME.

It takes about 20-22 hours to finish the main storyline of ME 2 to get 80% of the dialogue.

I'm glad you just tried to make up random facts right there.

I beat ME2 in 14 hours... doing everything but N7 missions.

Also, ME2 is comprised of a lot of ducking and shooting. That's why it takes longer...

Not if your a Vanguard!

[tj987654321]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...
My source says the following:

Average ME1 score:
Press: 9.1 (out of 62 ratings)
Readers: 9.1 (out 9245 ratings)

Average ME2 score:
Press: 9.3 (out of 112 ratings)
Reader: 9.2 (out of 4021 ratings)

That's from IGN. And, really, those are averages from thousands of people, and IGN has a pretty diverse cross section of gamers.

I think that user is goingoff profesol reviews....

Press reviews are professional reviews...

And I'm just goign to throw this out there, but "professional reviewers" are still biased people too.

Is that how GTA IV got a perfect from IGN?

[Count Viceroy]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...
My source says the following:

Average ME1 score:
Press: 9.1 (out of 62 ratings)
Readers: 9.1 (out 9245 ratings)

Average ME2 score:
Press: 9.3 (out of 112 ratings)
Reader: 9.2 (out of 4021 ratings)

That's from IGN. And, really, those are averages from thousands of people, and IGN has a pretty diverse cross section of gamers.

I think that user is goingoff profesol reviews....

Press reviews are professional reviews...

And I'm just goign to throw this out there, but "professional reviewers" are still biased people too.

Newsflash. Everyone everywhere is biased.

[kraidy1117]

tj987654321 wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...
My source says the following:

Average ME1 score:
Press: 9.1 (out of 62 ratings)
Readers: 9.1 (out 9245 ratings)

Average ME2 score:
Press: 9.3 (out of 112 ratings)
Reader: 9.2 (out of 4021 ratings)

That's from IGN. And, really, those are averages from thousands of people, and IGN has a pretty diverse cross section of gamers.

I think that user is goingoff profesol reviews....

Press reviews are professional reviews...

And I'm just goign to throw this out there, but "professional reviewers" are still biased people too.

Is that how GTA IV got a perfect from IGN?

ANd what game did they award for game of the year? FO3

[tj987654321]

kraidy1117 wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

tj987654321 wrote...

Shavon wrote...

@ TJ . . . I understand that ME2 feels like you have more dialog with each party member on the ship, but there is more than double of them. In ME1, you actually get to know each party member much more so, than most of the members in ME2. Most. A few have almost the same amount of dialog, but much of that is on the loyalty missions.

Fortunesque is also backing it up with facts, here. It's indisputable. ME2 is TPS with a story, and some minor rpg elements. ME1 was a rpg with shooter elements, and it allowed the game to be much more personal with crew members as well as the story as a whole.

Just sayin'

How many times have you played through ME 1 and 2?

You can finish the main story with 90% of the dialogue in 8-10 hours in ME.

It takes about 20-22 hours to finish the main storyline of ME 2 to get 80% of the dialogue.

I'm glad you just tried to make up random facts right there.

I beat ME2 in 14 hours... doing everything but N7 missions.

Also, ME2 is comprised of a lot of ducking and shooting. That's why it takes longer...

Not if your a Vanguard!

On Insanity, it is alot of ducking and shooting in ME 2. Insanity on ME is alot of dying and crying.

[fortunesque]

kraidy1117 wrote...
Not if your a Vanguard!

True. Then it's mostly shooting because you have a shared cooldown time on the power wheel. 

[tj987654321]

Count Viceroy wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...
My source says the following:

Average ME1 score:
Press: 9.1 (out of 62 ratings)
Readers: 9.1 (out 9245 ratings)

Average ME2 score:
Press: 9.3 (out of 112 ratings)
Reader: 9.2 (out of 4021 ratings)

That's from IGN. And, really, those are averages from thousands of people, and IGN has a pretty diverse cross section of gamers.

I think that user is goingoff profesol reviews....

Press reviews are professional reviews...

And I'm just goign to throw this out there, but "professional reviewers" are still biased people too.

Newsflash. Everyone everywhere is biased.

Are we biased in our opinions?

[Mystranna Kelteel]

tj987654321 wrote...
Is that how GTA IV got a perfect from IGN?

So did you not read my post?

The ratings I used in my post were not FROM IGN ALONE.

GTA4 got a perfect score from one IGN reviewer because, as I said, "professional reviewers" are compltely biased in how they rate a game.

Therefore saying, "Oh, ME2 got a few more higher scores than ME1, so clearly it is a much better game and that proves my point." is stupid.

[theelementslayer]

Alright time to settle the review debate. These are PC scores, metacritic so that means all of the reviews are weighed and put together

ME1:
Metacritic-89
User Score-84
link

ME2:
MetaCritic-94
User Score-89
link

xbox 360

ME1:
Metacritic-91
User Score-88
link

ME2:
Metacritic-96
User Score-90
link

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

Da Shadow Master wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

Da Shadow Master wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

LOL! That's part of the fun... you're all..."why would you go in there to help samara and then kill her if they both supposedly have the same amount of power?" ... The answer is for the lulz, teh hawtness, and actually if you think about it from a renegade standpoint, Morinth would make more sense to recruit anyway. She'd "owe you one" for saving her life and she would be less likely to kill you later for any renegade things you did since she doesn't go by the justicar code. She'd also be more willing to help you in the future since she is drawn to your power and wants to be around you.

I'm not sure I'd want her to "owe" me anything after seeing that vid.

Well, you could make the one thing she owes you.... not to kill you. lmao!

psssst.... I love how we are just having a random ass convo about characters in a thread about ME1 replay value that has turned into a "which game is better" thread. lmao! 

True ....probably what I'd ask of her....since Ash is my LI

Thread derailment is fun isn't it?

I agree there, but I'd recruit her just on the fact that I think she's more interesting than Samara.... that and isn't she one of the few Ardat Yakshi's left? 

Sadly Ash isn't my LI in every game. I've got a couple FemShep runs that don't romance her (cause it isn't possible in ME1... though I do have one modded ME2 FemShep/Ash romance that I hope I can import into ME3).

A Shepard who cheated... just to see what happens in ME3. And a Shepard I kept single just to romance Jack.

But my "canon" is Ash and a few of my other's romance her too... oh and I never kill her off. I just can't. lol

[drunken pyromaniac]

[kraidy1117]

fortunesque wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...
Not if your a Vanguard!

True. Then it's mostly shooting because you have a shared cooldown time on the power wheel. 

ME also had alot of shooting if you used all your powers and you had a group of husk or things running at you

[kraidy1117]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

I feel like headdesking.

[fortunesque]

kraidy1117 wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...
Not if your a Vanguard!

True. Then it's mostly shooting because you have a shared cooldown time on the power wheel. 

ME also had alot of shooting if you used all your powers and you had a group of husk or things running at you

My vanguard in ME1 rarely shoots. At all. Adrenaline burst ftw.

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

kraidy1117 wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

tj987654321 wrote...

Shavon wrote...

@ TJ . . . I understand that ME2 feels like you have more dialog with each party member on the ship, but there is more than double of them. In ME1, you actually get to know each party member much more so, than most of the members in ME2. Most. A few have almost the same amount of dialog, but much of that is on the loyalty missions.

Fortunesque is also backing it up with facts, here. It's indisputable. ME2 is TPS with a story, and some minor rpg elements. ME1 was a rpg with shooter elements, and it allowed the game to be much more personal with crew members as well as the story as a whole.

Just sayin'

How many times have you played through ME 1 and 2?

You can finish the main story with 90% of the dialogue in 8-10 hours in ME.

It takes about 20-22 hours to finish the main storyline of ME 2 to get 80% of the dialogue.

I'm glad you just tried to make up random facts right there.

I beat ME2 in 14 hours... doing everything but N7 missions.

ME2 took me 50 hours on my first playthrough.................

Took me around 38 the first playthrough. But he said it takes 20 hours to finish the main story... not true. I beat it in 14 just doing the main story and loyalty missions.

[tj987654321]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

tj987654321 wrote...

Shavon wrote...

@ TJ . . . I understand that ME2 feels like you have more dialog with each party member on the ship, but there is more than double of them. In ME1, you actually get to know each party member much more so, than most of the members in ME2. Most. A few have almost the same amount of dialog, but much of that is on the loyalty missions.

Fortunesque is also backing it up with facts, here. It's indisputable. ME2 is TPS with a story, and some minor rpg elements. ME1 was a rpg with shooter elements, and it allowed the game to be much more personal with crew members as well as the story as a whole.

Just sayin'

How many times have you played through ME 1 and 2?

You can finish the main story with 90% of the dialogue in 8-10 hours in ME.

It takes about 20-22 hours to finish the main storyline of ME 2 to get 80% of the dialogue.

I'm glad you just tried to make up random facts right there.

I beat ME2 in 14 hours... doing everything but N7 missions.

How the HELL did you do that? Every playthrough I have literally averages out to 20-22 hours.

AM I THAT BAD!

[kraidy1117]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

tj987654321 wrote...

Shavon wrote...

@ TJ . . . I understand that ME2 feels like you have more dialog with each party member on the ship, but there is more than double of them. In ME1, you actually get to know each party member much more so, than most of the members in ME2. Most. A few have almost the same amount of dialog, but much of that is on the loyalty missions.

Fortunesque is also backing it up with facts, here. It's indisputable. ME2 is TPS with a story, and some minor rpg elements. ME1 was a rpg with shooter elements, and it allowed the game to be much more personal with crew members as well as the story as a whole.

Just sayin'

How many times have you played through ME 1 and 2?

You can finish the main story with 90% of the dialogue in 8-10 hours in ME.

It takes about 20-22 hours to finish the main storyline of ME 2 to get 80% of the dialogue.

I'm glad you just tried to make up random facts right there.

I beat ME2 in 14 hours... doing everything but N7 missions.

ME2 took me 50 hours on my first playthrough.................

Took me around 38 the first playthrough. But he said it takes 20 hours to finish the main story... not true. I beat it in 14 just doing the main story and loyalty missions.

main story is 10 to 15 hours.

[SilverRose208]

And even the professional reviews for ME2 all say to play the original first if you don't want to miss out on the full experience...