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#76
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HagSpawn wrote...

Some dojo women like games :whistle:.


You seem to have a constant fetish in this thread about dojo women :huh:

No I think it has more to do with the fact that I love taekwondo and I have a girlfriend who loves it too;).

Modifié par Some Geth, 21 août 2010 - 11:39 .


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Actually, I would prefer only if there were competitons among NPCs for Hawke's love. The other way round would be simply real life....

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Schuback wrote...

Actually, I would prefer only if there were competitons among NPCs for Hawke's love. The other way round would be simply real life....


^^^ This.

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Perhaps not actual competition, but some banter and conversations here and there would be nice. And NPC's fighting for Hawke would work, only if done properly, like say Hawke asks one of the NPC's fighting whats going on and they don't tell him, he could persuade it out of them, ect ect, its all in how it is delivered.

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Like the cut out leliana and morrigan dialogue?

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Arttis wrote...

Like the cut out leliana and morrigan dialogue?


Hells yes. That stuff is awesome. Why can't that happen to me in real life?  I hear women argue allot but never over me.

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I would actually find it refreshing if there was only one love interest per gender, ala KotoR 1.

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Oblivious

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Slidell505 wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Like the cut out leliana and morrigan dialogue?


Hells yes. That stuff is awesome. Why can't that happen to me in real life?  I hear women argue allot but never over me.

Women argue over men alot... it just happens through texts. Long-distance communication took all the fun out of courting multiple women:crying:

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Phaelducan wrote...

I would actually find it refreshing if there was only one love interest per gender, ala KotoR 1.


Weren't it two? Bastila and Juhani?

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Phaelducan

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Juhani wasn't an option. If you were a female Revan it was implied that she was interested in you, but it wasn't a pursueable dialogue.

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FULL LIFE CONSEQUENCES.



I'd like for the party emembers to be fully fleshed out, and act like real people, with all the good and bad things that entials. Doublecrss, jelousy, stealing my girfriend, etc..





Also, people having trouble making a decision? What's so horrible about that?

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Oblivious wrote...

TriviaAeducan wrote...

If Bethany touches Varric...
:puts on latex wrestling uniform:

MUD WINE WRESTLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(it's the third time I have mentioned this)

Funny how I have read all 3 of the wine wrestling posts. Even funnier how it was my idea. Maybe that's why Saibh is so aggressive, perhaps she just wanted to join in:wizard:


Mud was my idea. You corrected it XP

I have a latex thing. My man (or woman?) better love RPGs and latex on his (her?) babe.

Anyways, it would be a bit more "realistic" to have party members falling for each other, hitting on each other (Velanna and Nathaniel anyone? But it seemed he was just being a charmer:wub:) or competing for the PC (Morrigan vs Leliana!)...

Fem!Qunari vs Varric :o Awesome.

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TriviaAeducan wrote...

Anyways, it would be a bit more "realistic" to have party members falling for each other, hitting on each other (Velanna and Nathaniel anyone? But it seemed he was just being a charmer:wub:) or competing for the PC (Morrigan vs Leliana!)...

Fem!Qunari vs Varric :o Awesome.


Do you really want more realistic in game?? Really?? "Oh, Hawke, no, i´m sorry, but i have migraine today, please, wait to tomorrow..."Posted Image
And in real, i can´t remember to use a last savegame, although, if i think about....Wow, that would be cool...Posted Image

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Sounds like an interesting dynamic. Though I don't see it happening, too much programming required for too little payoff.



I honestly get the impression (and I can't back this up, and I hope I'm way, way off base) that Bioware has no interest in pushing dialog options further and making deeper, more fleshed out characters. Most of what I've heard so far suggests they want "moar pewpew action" and less depth.

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That'd actually be pretty interesting, especially if the wrong response to your 'rival' could result in the LI breaking it off with you. On the other hand, it really would need to be handled maturely; I'm not hugely interested in normally mature NPCs reverting to the mental age of twelve in order to create ~drama~.

Also, I think that a threesome should be an acceptable solution to at least one of the conflicts. I'm only partly joking.

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I don't need drama in my warband. We have people to kill and nations to plunder, the last thing we need is for people to be fighting it out over competition for love interests.

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obnoxiousgas wrote...

That'd actually be pretty interesting, especially if the wrong response to your 'rival' could result in the LI breaking it off with you. On the other hand, it really would need to be handled maturely; I'm not hugely interested in normally mature NPCs reverting to the mental age of twelve in order to create ~drama~.

Also, I think that a threesome should be an acceptable solution to at least one of the conflicts. I'm only partly joking.


Everyone, everyone (maybe not exactly everyone, but most of everyone) hated it with Haer'Dalis and Aerie. There is no way to handle it that doesn't feel like you're being cheated. And, like I said earlier, it makes the guy/girl come off as a piece of filth for sitting back and enjoying this duking out.

Besides, this is a game, and I expect my fantasy love interest to love me. Not, "Oooh, you called your rival a skank, no more relationship for you!"

Modifié par Saibh, 22 août 2010 - 06:07 .


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Saibh wrote...

obnoxiousgas wrote...

That'd actually be pretty interesting, especially if the wrong response to your 'rival' could result in the LI breaking it off with you. On the other hand, it really would need to be handled maturely; I'm not hugely interested in normally mature NPCs reverting to the mental age of twelve in order to create ~drama~.

Also, I think that a threesome should be an acceptable solution to at least one of the conflicts. I'm only partly joking.


Everyone, everyone (maybe not exactly everyone, but most of everyone) hated it with Haer'Dalis and Aerie. There is no way to handle it that doesn't feel like you're being cheated. And, like I said earlier, it makes the guy/girl come off as a piece of filth for sitting back and enjoying this duking out.

Besides, this is a game, and I expect my fantasy love interest to love me. Not, "Oooh, you called your rival a skank, no more relationship for you!"


And that, of course, is why while the idea is interesting in theory, it probably wouldn't work in practice. We are the player, ergo we demand a certain degree of special treatment and would feel cheated if we weren't given this, which is of course reasonable (particularly in RPG games like this where there tends to be even more wish fulfillment than in others, as well as considerably more investment). Even though it could prove to be better or more realistic (or not, your mileage may vary) storytelling, it's not particularly satisfying to have your love interest leave your character for another.

As I said above, though, if it was present I'd need for it to be handled reasonably. Putting in mindless high school drama (not that this is necessarily a bad thing, just time and place, y'know? ;)) is silly and makes the characters instantly more dislikeable. If such a conflict were to take place, I'd need the characters involved to have reasonable motivations for it and not have it just be shoved in for the sake of it while the object of your affections sits back and enjoys the show. Because seriously, if that happened, they wouldn't be characters worth your time. ^_^

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Schuback wrote...

Actually, I would prefer only if there were competitons among NPCs for Hawke's love. The other way round would be simply real life....


Exactly. If I wanted my girlfriend stolen from me, I'd just go about my day normally.

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I have always hated the whole '2 characters fighting over the PC' thing, its just seems like the player is trying to fulfill some childish desire.

I much prefer having to compete for a LI (ala BG), it just makes things seem more realistic as opposed to most Bioware games now where it seems people can only ever be attracted to the PC.

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TriviaAeducan wrote...
Mud was my idea. You corrected it XP

I have a latex thing. My man (or woman?) better love RPGs and latex on his (her?) babe.

Anyways, it would be a bit more "realistic" to have party members falling for each other, hitting on each other (Velanna and Nathaniel anyone? But it seemed he was just being a charmer:wub:) or competing for the PC (Morrigan vs Leliana!)...

Fem!Qunari vs Varric :o Awesome.

Ooh a Fem!Qunari with a leather fetish. Instant /win:wizard:

I hope Bioware gives us at least one option for a 3-way. Of course to achieve that should be super hard, but I never understood why Morrigan, who approves in casual sex, and a hardened Leliana, who can go up to a 4-way with a complete stranger, won't sleep together:? Especially if the Warden is obviously romancing them both at the same time.

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Saibh wrote...

Everyone, everyone (maybe not exactly everyone, but most of everyone) hated it with Haer'Dalis and Aerie. There is no way to handle it that doesn't feel like you're being cheated. And, like I said earlier, it makes the guy/girl come off as a piece of filth for sitting back and enjoying this duking out.


I hated it but I loved the scenario where she'd go to you if you refused to fight Haer.

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I don't think i'd be interested in fighting for the attention of a potential LI who also has eyes for another party member. Then again I don't put much effort into the LI's and nearly always go the whole game without one, so eh.

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Slidell505 wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Like the cut out leliana and morrigan dialogue?


Hells yes. That stuff is awesome. Why can't that happen to me in real life?  I hear women argue allot but never over me.


Can someone give me a link please?

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The catty Morrigan banter? I didn't realize that was cut, I heard it in Lothering.