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[Last Darkness]

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Anyone remember diablo turn based?

[toastymckracker]

AlanC9 wrote...

toastymckracker wrote...
Could you possibly be any more ignorant?  I mean, just because someone's a console gamer means they couldn't possibly want tactical and challenging experience, right?  There are just as many action games on PC as there are on consoles, and vice-versa.  Stop with your stupid generalizations.

Yep, figured I'd offend someone with that.

I'm sure you're aware of this, but consoles are limited by poor effective screen size and bad control setups. It's not like Bio's going in this direction for no reason, after all.

Alternatively, you could say that Bio's only doing this because they think console gamers prefer action games rather that because action games are what consoles are better at doing. I think that'd be wrong -- and it's even more insulting to a console gamer -- but as a PC player I don't have a dog in that fight anyway.

I wasn't really offended, just trying to correct your way of thinking.  I guess I'm just finding it annoying that I'm seeing these kinds of generalizations in so many threads here.  I'm not sure what you mean by "poor effective screen size," but yes, you're right about consoles being limited as far as controls go.  Even still, DA: O sold very well on consoles, didn't it?  One would think that would be proof that console players actually DO enjoy the kind of experience DA: O gives.

[Vandrayke]

Last Darkness wrote...

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Anyone remember diablo turn based?

well it certainly has people talking about it, which is probably the goal.  Right?  

[nhsk]

Tbh I had a greater need for tactical gameplay on the Xbox than on the PC, played both versions. Yes the game "seemed" easier of Xbox but trust me, due to poor targeting it was much harder in fights with multiple opponents to keep everyone up... "whoops, my mage mistargeted again"... Never happened on PC with the superior overlay, lessening my need for tactical gameplay considerably. Never ever could complete nightmare on Xbox, did first time on PC with a breeze.



So no, tactics play a freaking huge part on the console.. Especially tactics slots, never really used them on the PC.

[Rubbish Hero]

Vandrayke wrote...

Last Darkness wrote...

Marketing Build rarly reflects final product.

Anyone remember diablo turn based?

well it certainly has people talking about it, which is probably the goal.  Right?  

Ah, makes thinks dumb down devil may cryed Shepard, verys clevers Bioware.
Fox very muich faster than turtle make out.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 21 août 2010 - 04:21 .

[Rapidiul]

I hate when gaming pages start hating a game. They aren't supposed to like or hate games, they aren't supposed to rate games (mostly because most companies just buy ratings), they aren't supposed to hype a game, or ignore a game. They are supposed to give information about the game, and updates of the games.

[DespiertaLosNinos]

Anarya wrote...

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Huwmin race wrote...

Rubbish Hero is just trying to fulfil her daily quota of bitterness like David Gaider said

His. He belongs in your gender, keep him out of mine!

Please not personal attack make.
Bring news, thankful you. Moses verbal fisting repercussion consequence not.

You leave religion out of this!

Come now.  Its well know Moses verbal fisted people

[Vandrayke]

toastymckracker wrote...

I wasn't really offended, just trying to correct your way of thinking.  I guess I'm just finding it annoying that I'm seeing these kinds of generalizations in so many threads here.  I'm not sure what you mean by "poor effective screen size," 

You can't fit as much information on the screen when you're designing games for TVs of widely varying size and formats where people sit widely varying distances from the screen.  In general, you have to make stuff bigger and you have a less precise method of selection than a mouse, so you can't fit as much stuff on the screen.  

[Huwmin race]

i played DA on console and i liked it the way it was and i as a Console and PC gamer don't want it to be changed just for one audience and i'm sick of PC gamers generalizing me as a guy who likes god of war and ****ing dante's inferno

[Apollo Starflare]

It's kind of despressing how much misinformation about this stuff is out there, Bioware should work with a games site/mag to get a big preview and preferably gameplay vid out to satisfy those who just aren't aware of the dev comments here and in the q+a session etc.

Saibh wrote...

Somehow I'm really doubting he's a LI. That's not generally how they're described.

Hey he's just a bit podgy ten years down the line, not only should that not rule him out as an LI (break down the walls BW, bring podgy love to DA2!) but when you meet him he will blatently be a stallion.

Varric needs not sculpted abs in order to woo the ladies. He has chest hair for that.

[nhsk]

Oh god tried the demo for Dante's and also Bayonetta and a game called Wet... They sucked, and doesn't compare remotely to the gameplay of DA:O on console.

[Rubbish Hero]

Huwmin race wrote...

i played DA on console and i liked it the way it was and i as a Console and PC gamer don't want it to be changed just for one audience and i'm sick of PC gamers generalizing me as a guy who likes god of war and ****ing dante's inferno

People buy console reason console game. Blame personally you, logical. Very much wants pc expereince but no pc.
Guess whats Ronald Mcdonold? No longer pc expereince, well dones you.

[Saibh]

Rapidiul wrote...

DespiertaLosNinos wrote...

Rapidiul wrote...

DAO was not cliché. Period

HAHA

Ahh.... that was a good one. Well done.  Dwarves living underground in a cavernous city.....elves hiding away in the forest....humans being oppressive.  A villain who takes power during a crisis.   Nope, no clichés there

Very few games/movies had dawrves living underground. And they do not only live underground. Humans are oppresive, in both movies and games, AND real life, if they wanted peaceful people thay would have just made another race. There are city elves. Elves live in the forest, yes, but what do they do there is different than most games.

Tolkien dwarves are based upon the Norse dwarves. Tales abound, but they generally prefer living underground, are excellent miners and smiths, and since they're with the Vikings, they also get the ale, axes, and beard thing going for them. I'm honestly unsure why you'd say few games or movies have dwarves living underground...

Again, the cliches are there. They were used to build a familiar world. You can't deny it--it's not a bad thing, it's just the truth.

[Huwmin race]

DespiertaLosNinos wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Huwmin race wrote...

Rubbish Hero is just trying to fulfil her daily quota of bitterness like David Gaider said

His. He belongs in your gender, keep him out of mine!

Don't push Rubbish off on us

 it can have its own gender

[Rapidiul]

I think we have different views of cliché.

[Kileyan]

Anarya wrote...

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Huwmin race wrote...

Rubbish Hero is just trying to fulfil her daily quota of bitterness like David Gaider said

His. He belongs in your gender, keep him out of mine!

Please not personal attack make.
Bring news, thankful you. Moses verbal fisting repercussion consequence not.

You leave religion out of this!

Religion was already brought up, when someone went the console vs pc route.

[Huwmin race]

Anarya wrote...

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Huwmin race wrote...

Rubbish Hero is just trying to fulfil her daily quota of bitterness like David Gaider said

His. He belongs in your gender, keep him out of mine!

Please not personal attack make.
Bring news, thankful you. Moses verbal fisting repercussion consequence not.

You leave religion out of this!

you actually understood her maker we should make you Hawke

[Rapidiul]

Saibh wrote...

Rapidiul wrote...

DespiertaLosNinos wrote...

Rapidiul wrote...

DAO was not cliché. Period

HAHA

Ahh.... that was a good one. Well done.  Dwarves living underground in a cavernous city.....elves hiding away in the forest....humans being oppressive.  A villain who takes power during a crisis.   Nope, no clichés there

Very few games/movies had dawrves living underground. And they do not only live underground. Humans are oppresive, in both movies and games, AND real life, if they wanted peaceful people thay would have just made another race. There are city elves. Elves live in the forest, yes, but what do they do there is different than most games.

Tolkien dwarves are based upon the Norse dwarves. Tales abound, but they generally prefer living underground, are excellent miners and smiths, and since they're with the Vikings, they also get the ale, axes, and beard thing going for them. I'm honestly unsure why you'd say few games or movies have dwarves living underground...

Again, the cliches are there. They were used to build a familiar world. You can't deny it--it's not a bad thing, it's just the truth.

In your point of view, if the qunari made it into a movie, they would be cliché, because the writer just used them. Underground Dwarves are not cliché, because the concept is not in every single game, unchanged. There may be some games with underground Dwuarves, but DA changed some stuff in their culture, so I don't believe they should be called cliché.

Modifié par Rapidiul, 21 août 2010 - 04:38 .

[Ultimono]

Well i iam solely a console gamer as i can't get a gaming pc.

Sure i love my action games, they are fun and exciting. But don't for one minute generalize me!



I had hours of fun on Dragon Age: Origins and i sure as hell will love DA2. Sure the console version is a little more action orientated, but thats to make up for our lack of tactical use. It is harder to make a conole game more tactical so obviously more fighting had to be involved to bring it up for us.

[Vandrayke]

Rapidiul wrote...

In your point of view, if the qunari made itinto a movie, they would be cliché, because the writer just used them. Underground Dwarves are not cliché, because the concept is not in every single game, unchanged. There may be some games with underground Dwuarves, but DA changed some stuff in their culture, so I don't believe they should be called cliché.

lol really?  Dwarves with beards and axes living underground is a definite trope.  Not a bad thing, because starting on familiar territory is good.  The culture is unique, sure, but the core elements are the same.  Kind of like how different stories can use a similar storytelling mechanic and still end up being quite different.   

[Huwmin race]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Huwmin race wrote...

i played DA on console and i liked it the way it was and i as a Console and PC gamer don't want it to be changed just for one audience and i'm sick of PC gamers generalizing me as a guy who likes god of war and ****ing dante's inferno

People buy console reason console game. Blame personally you, logical. Very much wants pc expereince but no pc.
Guess whats Ronald Mcdonold? No longer pc expereince, well dones you.

Rubbish Hero if you blame personnally me then i must make insult you by in broken english write you like

[toastymckracker]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Huwmin race wrote...

i played DA on console and i liked it the way it was and i as a Console and PC gamer don't want it to be changed just for one audience and i'm sick of PC gamers generalizing me as a guy who likes god of war and ****ing dante's inferno

People buy console reason console game. Blame personally you, logical. Very much wants pc expereince but no pc.
Guess whats Ronald Mcdonold? No longer pc expereince, well dones you.

It must be nice to be you, typing in an obviously intentional stupid manner simply to entertain yourself.  I say that because you sure as hell aren't entertaining anyone else.  Even if we look past your intentional dumb speak, your idiocy still shines through blatantly.

[Rapidiul]

Vandrayke wrote...

Rapidiul wrote...

In your point of view, if the qunari made itinto a movie, they would be cliché, because the writer just used them. Underground Dwarves are not cliché, because the concept is not in every single game, unchanged. There may be some games with underground Dwuarves, but DA changed some stuff in their culture, so I don't believe they should be called cliché.

lol really?  Dwarves with beards and axes living underground is a definite trope.  Not a bad thing, because starting on familiar territory is good.  The culture is unique, sure, but the core elements are the same.  Kind of like how different stories can use a similar storytelling mechanic and still end up being quite different.   

If the core elements were changed, they would not be dwarves. They would be short people with different stuff.

Modifié par Rapidiul, 21 août 2010 - 04:43 .

[AlexXIV]

I once had a PS(1) but other than that never owned console myself, even though friends do. But what is actually the problem consoles have with RPGs? Is it lack of memory or lack of processing? And why can't it be fixed. Don't tell me it is the gamepad, since you could just use a second port for additional keying.

[Huwmin race]

toastymckracker wrote...

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Huwmin race wrote...

i played DA on console and i liked it the way it was and i as a Console and PC gamer don't want it to be changed just for one audience and i'm sick of PC gamers generalizing me as a guy who likes god of war and ****ing dante's inferno

People buy console reason console game. Blame personally you, logical. Very much wants pc expereince but no pc.
Guess whats Ronald Mcdonold? No longer pc expereince, well dones you.

It must be nice to be you, typing in an obviously intentional stupid manner simply to entertain yourself.  I say that because you sure as hell aren't entertaining anyone else.  Even if we look past your intentional dumb speak, your idiocy still shines through blatantly.

you go man