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#101
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Bryy_Miller wrote...

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I am hoping someone manages to leak the demo on the internets


Why? So people can complain more?

So people can see for themselves and make their own opinions, instead of having to read stupid articles made by sites that hype COD.

Modifié par Rapidiul, 21 août 2010 - 05:40 .


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TheMufflon wrote...

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i played DA on console and i liked it the way it was and i as a Console and PC gamer don't want it to be changed just for one audience and i'm sick of PC gamers generalizing me as a guy who likes god of war and ****ing dante's inferno


People buy console reason console game. Blame personally you, logical. Very much wants pc expereince but no pc.
Guess whats Ronald Mcdonold? No longer pc expereince, well dones you.


It must be nice to be you, typing in an obviously intentional stupid manner simply to entertain yourself.  I say that because you sure as hell aren't entertaining anyone else.  Even if we look past your intentional dumb speak, your idiocy still shines through blatantly.


I just read all Rubbish Hero's posts in Borat's voice, it makes them much more entertaining and has the added benefit of making it impossible to take anything he says seriously.


:lol:  Good idea.  I too will be doing that from now on.

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Rapidiul wrote...

So people can see for themselves and make their own opinions, instead of having to read stupid articles made by sites that hype COD.


They'd form their opinions on baseless gameplay, though. People were raging because of the playable demo at Gamescom when they didn't have iso view, Laidlaw came and delivered the smackdown and people found something else to complain about.

Letting the demo loose would make people assume that part of the game is final and everything is already exactly like that, look at Rubbish for example. Rubbish can't tell the difference between the console and PC version.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Rapidiul wrote...

So people can see for themselves and make their own opinions, instead of having to read stupid articles made by sites that hype COD.


They'd form their opinions on baseless gameplay, though. People were raging because of the playable demo at Gamescom when they didn't have iso view, Laidlaw came and delivered the smackdown and people found something else to complain about.

Letting the demo loose would make people assume that part of the game is final and everything is already exactly like that, look at Rubbish for example. Rubbish can't tell the difference between the console and PC version.

Mafia II Has a demo which story is not "canon"

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Rapidiul wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Rapidiul wrote...

So people can see for themselves and make their own opinions, instead of having to read stupid articles made by sites that hype COD.


They'd form their opinions on baseless gameplay, though. People were raging because of the playable demo at Gamescom when they didn't have iso view, Laidlaw came and delivered the smackdown and people found something else to complain about.

Letting the demo loose would make people assume that part of the game is final and everything is already exactly like that, look at Rubbish for example. Rubbish can't tell the difference between the console and PC version.

Mafia II Has a demo which story is not "canon"


And?

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Rapidiul wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Rapidiul wrote...

So people can see for themselves and make their own opinions, instead of having to read stupid articles made by sites that hype COD.


They'd form their opinions on baseless gameplay, though. People were raging because of the playable demo at Gamescom when they didn't have iso view, Laidlaw came and delivered the smackdown and people found something else to complain about.

Letting the demo loose would make people assume that part of the game is final and everything is already exactly like that, look at Rubbish for example. Rubbish can't tell the difference between the console and PC version.

Mafia II Has a demo which story is not "canon"


And?

I think it is a good idea. Because people can see the game's features without getting spoiled.

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They mentioned the new visual style seems more cartoony.... argh!!

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They mentioned the new visual style seems more cartoony.... argh!!


Stylized. This has been said in several articles, with varying results. BioWare says they want an "ownable" style. Since most of us haven't seen it in action, there's no telling what's the truth.

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cel-shading=/=cartoony

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In an interview with French magazine Joystick, BioWare's Mike Laidlaw has revealed that the "Baldur's Gate" camera perspective available to PC owners in the first game won't be returning in the second game. According to a translation on the game's official forums, Laidlaw explains:"For budgetary reasons, we focused our work on a 3rd person view, that asks for very detailed and nice textures so that the player can admire the game with a close-up view. With an aerial view [isometric] we should cover much more ground and so create other textures. Now, the game mainly sold on console, so we're going the way of the audience".


Eh.. Screw you guys. You knew from the outset that it would sell more copies on consoles, so why give us the taste? 

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Team Fortress 2 cartoon very much very much better any Bioware game make.
Cartoon auto bad very pretencousizm.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 21 août 2010 - 05:59 .


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Just another article that will mislead people who aren't in the loop of updates and responses by the creators....seriously, reading the responses on the article itself is quite annoying when you know about exaggerated gameplay and framed narrative.

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Rubbish Hero wrote...

Team Fortress 2 cartoon very much very much better any Bioware game make.
Cartoon auto bad very pretencousizm.

Agreed

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Just another article that will mislead people who aren't in the loop of updates and responses by the creators


But it's the only way Rubbish gets anybody to agree with them.

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We go to Kotaku and tell them to stop! If they do not stop we flame them all!

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Rapidiul wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Rapidiul wrote...

So people can see for themselves and make their own opinions, instead of having to read stupid articles made by sites that hype COD.


They'd form their opinions on baseless gameplay, though. People were raging because of the playable demo at Gamescom when they didn't have iso view, Laidlaw came and delivered the smackdown and people found something else to complain about.

Letting the demo loose would make people assume that part of the game is final and everything is already exactly like that, look at Rubbish for example. Rubbish can't tell the difference between the console and PC version.

Mafia II Has a demo which story is not "canon"


... that's not what Dave was talking about at all. The DA2 demo is an unfinished product. 

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Just another article that will mislead people who aren't in the loop of updates and responses by the creators....seriously, reading the responses on the article itself is quite annoying when you know about exaggerated gameplay and framed narrative.


Exaggerated in terms of how overpowered he was no doubt. High end gear, all his abilities, enemies with 1 hit point I'd guess. But the speed and feel of the combat outside of the quick kills will no doubt be the same. I highly doubt they developed two distinct combat styles, one just for humor in the intro. 

Also you can't really blame the article. I'd blame the demo itself. If they wanted to give a truer aspect of combat they could have started the demo after that sequence. 

Modifié par briskojr, 21 août 2010 - 06:07 .


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sporky1 wrote...

Just another article that will mislead people who aren't in the loop of updates and responses by the creators....seriously, reading the responses on the article itself is quite annoying when you know about exaggerated gameplay and framed narrative.


Yeah, I'm starting to agree with some of the people here in saying that this definitely isn't the smartest way to market the game.  Then again, the people on this forum are a very miniscule percentage of the grand total that will end up purchasing DA2.  It could be that they're purposely trying to draw in the hack n slash crowd that will be reading these previews thinking they can go through this game God of War style.  Either way, they're misleading someone.

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toastymckracker wrote...

sporky1 wrote...

Just another article that will mislead people who aren't in the loop of updates and responses by the creators....seriously, reading the responses on the article itself is quite annoying when you know about exaggerated gameplay and framed narrative.


Yeah, I'm starting to agree with some of the people here in saying that this definitely isn't the smartest way to market the game.  Then again, the people on this forum are a very miniscule percentage of the grand total that will end up purchasing DA2.  It could be that they're purposely trying to draw in the hack n slash crowd that will be reading these previews thinking they can go through this game God of War style.  Either way, they're misleading someone.

The best way to market a game is to pay gamespot so they hype the game

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 pretencousizm.


Rubbish you actually just invented a word i am so proud

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Rapidiul wrote...

toastymckracker wrote...

sporky1 wrote...

Just another article that will mislead people who aren't in the loop of updates and responses by the creators....seriously, reading the responses on the article itself is quite annoying when you know about exaggerated gameplay and framed narrative.


Yeah, I'm starting to agree with some of the people here in saying that this definitely isn't the smartest way to market the game.  Then again, the people on this forum are a very miniscule percentage of the grand total that will end up purchasing DA2.  It could be that they're purposely trying to draw in the hack n slash crowd that will be reading these previews thinking they can go through this game God of War style.  Either way, they're misleading someone.

The best way to market a game is to pay gamespot so they hype the game


Until one of gamespot's reviewers writes a review that isn't in favor of such hype, and then BAM, you have a Kane and Lynch problem on your hands.

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When you hear God of War being being compared to it; no amount of delusional wishful-thinking can save you from the implications.



Is it time to drop expectations to "bargain bin sale purchase" for tactical rpg fans yet?

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toastymckracker wrote...

Rapidiul wrote...

toastymckracker wrote...

sporky1 wrote...

Just another article that will mislead people who aren't in the loop of updates and responses by the creators....seriously, reading the responses on the article itself is quite annoying when you know about exaggerated gameplay and framed narrative.


Yeah, I'm starting to agree with some of the people here in saying that this definitely isn't the smartest way to market the game.  Then again, the people on this forum are a very miniscule percentage of the grand total that will end up purchasing DA2.  It could be that they're purposely trying to draw in the hack n slash crowd that will be reading these previews thinking they can go through this game God of War style.  Either way, they're misleading someone.

The best way to market a game is to pay gamespot so they hype the game


Until one of gamespot's reviewers writes a review that isn't in favor of such hype, and then BAM, you have a Kane and Lynch problem on your hands.

If you are paying this won't happen.

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briskojr wrote...

sporky1 wrote...

Just another article that will mislead people who aren't in the loop of updates and responses by the creators....seriously, reading the responses on the article itself is quite annoying when you know about exaggerated gameplay and framed narrative.


Exaggerated in terms of how overpowered he was no doubt. High end gear, all his abilities, enemies with 1 hit point I'd guess. But the speed and feel of the combat outside of the quick kills will no doubt be the same. I highly doubt they developed two distinct combat styles, one just for humor in the intro. 

Also you can't really blame the article. I'd blame the demo itself. If they wanted to give a truer aspect of combat they could have started the demo after that sequence. 


Yes, you are completely right. But the game does need more speed. Waiting for your character to do something was a pain. I also think it'd allow for bigger fights. 

I also thought the demo had a non-exaggerated part. I only blame the article for failing to do research beyond the gameplay. Why couldn't they ask a member of the staff a few questions? Either way, at least I know. And at least a few people I know who played the demo thought it was great. That's enough for me.