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[Athenau]

I found out three things about energy drain that push this power straight to the top :

1.  Energy drain buffs your shields past the max.  A 350 point energy drain will buff your max shields by 350.
2.  It doesn't matter how much shield you have left when you use energy drain, you still get the same bonus to your max.  Energy drain boosts your current shields AND your max shields, every time as long as you use it on a shielded/synthetic enemy.
3.  This bonus does not go down when your shields recharge.  Even if your shields are broken, when they recharge you'll still have the bonus.  It lasts for a decent amount of time too, at least 20 seconds, and since you can keep refreshing it by draining people...

On any mission with shields or synthetics (which are a good two-thirds, at least) energy drain is godly.

Energy drain is like overload + super barrier/GSB/fortification all rolled into one.

Modifié par Athenau, 22 août 2010 - 02:15 .

[lazuli]

Combine it with Tech Armor to faceroll Overlord.

[BattleMageMarian]

I agree, just started a Sentinel and assigned this as my extra power...wasn't expecting it to be so powerful!

[timj2011]

definitely gonna use this on my next pt

[Homebound]

As a shield loyalty power. Is this better than..say...Geth shield boost with its 10% weapon damage?

[Athenau]

As a shield loyalty power. Is this better than..say...Geth shield boost with its 10% weapon damage?

Good god, yes. GSB is bad because that 10% vanishes when it goes down (and refreshing it in the middle of a fight _sucks_). Energy drain gives you a continuous buff and every time you use it on a shielded enemy you're doing tons of damage.

[Pacifien]

Not only that, but the cooldown on Energy Drain is far less than Geth Shield Boost. Plus there are other methods to boost weapon damage.

[Homebound]

I shall consider this in my Soldier guide v2.0

[Athenau]

Another fun fact, the shields you drain don't depend on how much actual damage your ed did--only upon the base damage of the power multiplied by the number of enemies you hit. You can edrain a geth with just a sliver of health left and still get the full amount back.

This makes heavy drain the better option, IMO. It's better to get back 25% more shields all the time than occasionally tagging multiple enemies and getting a full recharge--the extra AOE is nice but there's no guarantee enemies will bunch up when you need the shields. Also, the bonus to your maximum shields depends only on the damage, which makes area less desirable.

Modifié par Athenau, 22 août 2010 - 02:50 .

[Bozorgmehr]

lazuli wrote...

Combine it with Tech Armor to faceroll Overlord.

Who needs Tech Armor anyway? Asari Commando Shepard - Project Overlord

[Simbacca]

Yea I played around with Energy Drain for the first time early in my Soldier insanity playthrough. I only had it at rank 1, but it was extremely useful during Grunt's and Jack's recruitment missions.

[Kronner]

As long as you can see shielded enemy somewhere, you can't die if you use Energy Drain. It is basically tech Reave.

[tommyt_1994]

Bozorgmehr wrote...

lazuli wrote...

Combine it with Tech Armor to faceroll Overlord.

Who needs Tech Armor anyway? Asari Commando Shepard - Project Overlord

That was a great video. Truly shows how good the mattock and ED are with the adept.

[Bozorgmehr]

tommyt_1994 wrote...

Bozorgmehr wrote...

lazuli wrote...

Combine it with Tech Armor to faceroll Overlord.

Who needs Tech Armor anyway? Asari Commando Shepard - Project Overlord

That was a great video. Truly shows how good the mattock and ED are with the adept.

Thanks,

But every class can use ED and against Geth - that's all you ever need - you can't die. ED is also useful on missions with lots of BS, though ED only works on shields (against synthetics you can regen your own shield when using it against their health too - awesome)

[Athenau]

Energy drain works on shields and synthetic health. Does anyone know if it works on synthetic armor?

Edit:  Nope, it doesn't.  But that's ok, you can just strip their armor before you use it.

Modifié par Athenau, 22 août 2010 - 07:26 .

[IMNWME]

Heavy Energy Drain is the way to go. I ran Area Drain during my first Assault Sentinel play-through, and it worked well enough, but my God, Heavy Energy Drain just owns. It already has a 1.2 m radius AoE, so in most cases, you can generally catch at least two enemies per cast. Not to mention, it one-shots Drones, just like Overload (a useful bonus).



However, the real power of Energy Drain is the shield boost. With 3/3 Tech upgrades (available before Horizon with DLC), Heavy ED will push your max shields up by 261 (!!!). By comparison, with 3/3 Damage Protection upgrades, Assault Armor only gives your shields a 237 shield boost. That's right, one cast of Heavy Energy Drain, even against an enemy that has only a sliver of blue shield, is like applying Assault Armor/Barrier/GSB, with only half the cool-down.



Of course, all this is theory-crafting, so I decided to test it out. I respec'd to Heavy Energy Drain, and did a quick run through Miranda's loyalty mission. Oh man. With Assault Armor on, and using Heavy Energy Drain, I pushed my shields up to 815 throughout the whole mission. What's more, the extra shields are NOTICEABLE, especially in the middle of a firefight. My Armor stays on longer, allowing me to quickly strip multiple defenses with the GPS while closing in on opponents, which makes the inevitable burst much more effective.



Oh, and did I mention recasting Tech Armor fills up your maximum shields, including the shield bonus from Energy Drain? After one cast, if my Armor falls, when I reapply, it'll go back to 815 shields, instead of 554. No other bonus power has that kind of synergy with your class talents.

[Eric Fagnan]

Bozorgmehr wrote...

lazuli wrote...

Combine it with Tech Armor to faceroll Overlord.

Who needs Tech Armor anyway? Asari Commando Shepard - Project Overlord

Nice video! I'm glad you guys are finding Energy Drain useful. I hadn't seen much mention of it on the boards.

[Alamar2078]

I love ED on my Adepts. Gives them a great way to directly damage shields / boosts their own protection / etc. The cooldown isn't too bad and can be reduced easily enough with Tech cooldown and other bonuses.



In general I like it a lot. I'm not too keen on it with Soldiers as it interfers with me throwing another AR out but it's still "the best [loyalty] boost my sheids" skill that I'm aware of.

[Alamar2078]

Oops .. stupid double post

Modifié par Alamar2078, 23 août 2010 - 08:54 .

[Athenau]

In general I like it a lot. I'm not too keen on it with Soldiers as it interfers with me throwing another AR out but it's still "the best [loyalty] boost my sheids" skill that I'm aware of.

It's great on a soldier. That's the class I've been testing it with. Use it when your shields are low, you don't want to expose yourself, or when you're moving from cover to cover. It's the first active loyalty power I've found that actually competes with adrenaline rush.

[Mr_Raider]

What do you guys do with it for collector missions and end game? Respec out of it to reave?

[termokanden]

Well it's 100% useless on those missions so if you have some eezo lying around (which you probably do), might as well grab something else for those. So yes, Area Reave wouldn't be bad for those missions.

[PsyrenY]

Eric ****nan wrote...



Nice video! I'm glad you guys are finding Energy Drain useful. I hadn't seen much mention of it on the boards.

Whaaaa? I've seen it mentioned in every "Bonus power" guide, and ranked highly at that!

[JaegerBane]

Alamar2078 wrote...

I love ED on my Adepts. Gives them a
great way to directly damage shields / boosts their own protection /
etc. The cooldown isn't too bad and can be reduced easily enough with
Tech cooldown and other bonuses.

In general I like it a lot. I'm
not too keen on it with Soldiers as it interfers with me throwing
another AR out but it's still "the best [loyalty] boost my sheids"
skill that I'm aware of.

The only issue I have with ED is that if they're aren't any shielded enemies/synthetic enemies around, it serves no purpose in boosing your shields. Hell, if there aren't any synths or shields, it serves no purpose full stop.

Mr_Raider wrote...

What do you guys do with it for collector missions and end game? Respec out of it to reave?

Unlike Overload, which retains some use against stuff that isn't synth or shielded, albeit minor, ED doesn't have any affect whatsoever. So yeah, best to respec out on those missions.