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[JohnnyBeGood2]

I'm assuming there is united agreement on this because the Reaper threat is like Defcon 1 [edited] (or whatever the highest threat level is).

I also advocate "no return" engagements with nuclear weapons. I personally don't believe's it advisable or beneficial to make every engagement no return but I think the Citadel races should be prepared for "no return" engagements when using nukes.

couple of notes:
1. when i say "nukes" i mean whatever is the "wmd of the day" in Citadel space.
2. when i say "no return" engagements i mean that the nukes are timed to go off during the engagement and will do so within the engagement window... this to protect against indoctrination or countermeasures etc. from the Reapers. Basically the nukes will blow and objective is to either deliver them to the Reapers or abandon ship if thats not possible.
3. Basically if anyones coming out of that engagement it's in a life raft

Anyone disagree?

Modifié par JohnnyBeGood2, 22 août 2010 - 08:11 .

[BloodRaith]

But would it work? We (the galaxy) may or may not have enough WMDs to take out all of the Reapers. And even if we do, would they do enough damage to be worth it?

[fongiel24]

JohnnyBeGood2 wrote...

I'm assuming there is united agreement on this because the Reaper threat is like Defcon 5 (or whatever the highest threat level is).

Minor quibble - Defcon 5 is the peacetime normal alert level, Defcon 1 is all-out war.

I agree with the OP's statement, but the problem isn't that the powers-that-be are unwilling to use their most powerful weapons to combat the Reapers. The problem is that the powers-that-be aren't even willing to acknowledge the Reapers exist.

[Khirzask]

Well, a large enough projectile accelerated to near-lightspeed via mass effect fields would have a yield far exceeding even the largest nuke. Even if it impacts the Reaper's kinetic barriers, it would still rattle the walls severely.



I've always figured everyone should build small kamikaze "ships"; a mass effect core surrounded by what is essentially a bullet made of tungsten or some other strong metal. If it's even about the size of the Normandy's shuttle, traveling at .75c it would pack one hell of a punch.

[JohnnyBeGood2]

fongiel24 wrote...

JohnnyBeGood2 wrote...
I'm assuming there is united agreement on this because the Reaper threat is like Defcon 5 (or whatever the highest threat level is).

Minor quibble - Defcon 5 is the peacetime normal alert level, Defcon 1 is all-out war.

Ah ok, ill edit it, thanks

[CroGamer002]

Well since nukes would be used in Space so why the f*ck not?

[Esbatty]

Why can't we fire off and trigger some kinda Mass Effect accelaterated Gamma Bomb?

[JohnnyBeGood2]

Esbatty wrote...
Why can't we fire off and trigger some kinda Mass Effect accelaterated Gamma Bomb?

I don't know enough about mass effect pseudo-science... sounds juicy though

[fongiel24]

Dreadnought guns already hit with the force of multiple nuclear weapons - and according to the Alliance drill sergeant on the Citadel, they're capable of doing it several times a minute.



The Reapers have been routinely wiping out galactic civilization for hundreds of millions of years. I doubt "invent a bigger gun" is a new idea. The derelict Reaper proves at least one civilization was even successful yet even they were wiped out.



The galaxy is probably going to need more than just bigger guns and better bullets to survive the Reapers, hence why ME is a trilogy about a human super soldier and not a team of engineers (the real kind, not the class).

[JohnnyBeGood2]

ah yes, yep, true dreadnoughts hit quite hard.



I had assumed that dreadnoughts faired badly against sovereign.

[Marzillius]

Why don't they give a friendly call to the Galactic Empire? They could help out.



Or, they could build a massive mass accelerator, like the one that took out the Derelict Reaper and later hit Klendagon.

[didymos1120]

Mesina2 wrote...

Well since nukes would be used in Space so why the f*ck not?

Funny thing is, actual nuclear weapons aren't all that great when there's no atmosphere. There's no blast wave, because there's nothing to transmit one.  Heat transfer is crippled too.   'Course, we're not talking about literal nukes here, so...

[Madman123456]

Marzillius wrote...

Why don't they give a friendly call to the Galactic Empire? They could help out.

Or, they could build a massive mass accelerator, like the one that took out the Derelict Reaper and later hit Klendagon.

No need, the Geth are already building their Geth-Star



I'd like to think that someone finally recognizes and supports Chorbans work in scanning the keepers. The Citadel isn't some Station build by People being "build" by the Reapers, it was actually build by the Reapers. Even if that isn't the Case, scanning the Keepers and gaining any Kind of insight into the Citadels inner workings wil yield some Results.

We may find out what the Keepers are, if the Citadel was build in "slave labor" by the Race that became the Keepers and how to shield giant gravitational Distortions from any kind of Sensor. The Citadel is a giant Mass Relay, yet nobody ever found out.
I guess Cerberus would be interested in finding out how to build Keepers in their neverending Quest to make Shocktroops.

[fongiel24]

Madman123456 wrote...

No need, the Geth are already building their Geth-Star

Bioware needs to get a development team working on a Geth-Star DLC yesterday.

[Esbatty]

fongiel24 wrote...

Madman123456 wrote...

No need, the Geth are already building their Geth-Star

Bioware needs to get a development team working on a Geth-Star DLC yesterday.

Shepard: Thats no moon.
Jack: Goddammit Miranda, sit the f*ck down you're blocking the f*ckin' screen!

[gi0m]

didymos1120 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Well since nukes would be used in Space so why the f*ck not?

Funny thing is, actual nuclear weapons aren't all that great when there's no atmosphere. There's no blast wave, because there's nothing to transmit one.  Heat transfer is crippled too.   'Course, we're not talking about literal nukes here, so...

This.
But I believe nukes in ME are kinda more evolved than our nuclear ones. Everything is mass effect enhanced right now, so maybe the nukes too.
Maybe there event any blast, just a big electro magnetic field or something.
Best would be recreate the effects of a supernova. If the Geth can **** up a star, maybe they fricking can SEND A STAR TO EXPLODE RIGHT TO THE REPAER'S FACE HELL YEAAAAAAAAAA. That'll kick some ass I'm pretty sure. But good luck with that.

Modifié par gi0m, 22 août 2010 - 10:10 .

[Renaikan]

You guys just don't seem to get it. The Reapers have everyone right where they want them. They have set a pre determined course for all the Galaxy to take. Any tech that we have to use against them will fail, big time. It took the entire Council Fleet to take out ONE Reaper. How do you expect to take out millions of them? The best Shep and the rest of the Galaxy can do is prolong the inevitable, or pray for a miracle.

[Kronner]

Renaikan wrote...

You guys just don't seem to get it. The Reapers have everyone right where they want them. They have set a pre determined course for all the Galaxy to take. Any tech that we have to use against them will fail, big time. It took the entire Council Fleet to take out ONE Reaper. How do you expect to take out millions of them? The best Shep and the rest of the Galaxy can do is prolong the inevitable, or pray for a miracle.

..or expose their weakness. Everyone and everything has at least one.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

nuclear weapons are powerful, yet likely primitive in the 35th century ... i support high energy beams. precise, safe, yet extremely powerful...

[Renaikan]

Kronner wrote...

Renaikan wrote...

You guys just don't seem to get it. The Reapers have everyone right where they want them. They have set a pre determined course for all the Galaxy to take. Any tech that we have to use against them will fail, big time. It took the entire Council Fleet to take out ONE Reaper. How do you expect to take out millions of them? The best Shep and the rest of the Galaxy can do is prolong the inevitable, or pray for a miracle.

..or expose their weakness. Everyone and everything has at least one.

We are outmanned and outgunned. Even if we do find a weakness, I highly doubt we have enough resources to stop them.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Renaikan wrote...

Kronner wrote...

Renaikan wrote...

You guys just don't seem to get it. The Reapers have everyone right where they want them. They have set a pre determined course for all the Galaxy to take. Any tech that we have to use against them will fail, big time. It took the entire Council Fleet to take out ONE Reaper. How do you expect to take out millions of them? The best Shep and the rest of the Galaxy can do is prolong the inevitable, or pray for a miracle.

..or expose their weakness. Everyone and everything has at least one.

We are outmanned and outgunned. Even if we do find a weakness, I highly doubt we have enough resources to stop them.

there are probably 20 qaudrillion known people of the universe... i doubt if they're outgunned. there were probably more protheans than reapers... the protehans were caught off guard... 

[MaaZeus]

Renaikan wrote...

You guys just don't seem to get it. The Reapers have everyone right where they want them. They have set a pre determined course for all the Galaxy to take. Any tech that we have to use against them will fail, big time. It took the entire Council Fleet to take out ONE Reaper. How do you expect to take out millions of them? The best Shep and the rest of the Galaxy can do is prolong the inevitable, or pray for a miracle.

And that miracle might be the geth. They are, if I understood correctly, outside of Reapers plans. While they depend on Mass Effect fields for space travel, (its probaply only way to do it effectively anyway) their technology has branched out to very different direction from where Reapers herd the organics to. Who knows what Geth can figure out in the future. Or maybe this is just wishful thinking...

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

If we are talking nukes as in Fission/Fusion weapons, as long as it is in space, why not. Space is already mere radiating as nuke could contribute. Other WMD effective would Anti-Matter Warheads (mentioned on Noveria), though I reckon those are only small dimension, high output weapons as they are extremely difficult to manufacture and maintain. Even with the use of Eezo! Guess Noveria did use them for effectively blasting away any biological/chemical threat in a small radius.
Btw, the way this woud make a great way to get rid of unneeded stockpiles. Though I think there would be better suited weapons at hands, as WMDs are pretty inefficient weapons, their only real striking feature is the panic-factor, but I don't think the Reapers to be very responsive to such attempts.

nova bombs from andromeda = awesome... 

[Renaikan]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

nuclear weapons are powerful, yet likely primitive in the 35th century ... i support high energy beams. precise, safe, yet extremely powerful...

Again, we outmanned and outgunned. Any laser or intense beam we may have is all based on tech predetermined by the Reapers. I am sure they will have a defernse for them.

My guess would be, we find some sort of alien tech weapon, (discovered in the Prothean disks maybe) that wasn't influenced tech by the Reapers, that may work if we have the time to build and install them on thousands of ships. This would be possible if we could get the Council's heads out of their arses and make them aware the Reapers are coming.

Modifié par Renaikan, 22 août 2010 - 11:37 .