Moiaussi wrote...
Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
You forget to gice credit to the situation the Protheans faced when invaded by the Reapers. The political head/elite was dead within the very first strike and chances are high that most high ranking militaries got killed soon too. Along with the deactivated Mass Relay Network, there was no chance to organize and execute a concentrated strike, even less perform strategic actions like amassing such firepower and then forcing the Reapers to fight said force. Your argument is non-contextual.
And that explains Vigil how? The Protheans were crippled, but their society still attempted to fight back. So did whichever civilization built and fired the superweapon that took out the now derelect reaper.
What you are saying is that civilizations would not have considered or developed weapons based on obvious already available technologies...
For someone arguing context, you seem to take liberties with the context.
No need to get snippy!
Ilos was a Top-Secret Research World. Maybe they didn't build said devices/"superweapons" because they knew that attempt would be futile.
I think I need to emphasize that the Reapers control the Relay Network, which translates into no interstellar traffic between different systems whatsoever. "Conventional" Eezo Core Drives do still need several years to pass those distances, normal communication even longer as it is limited to the Speed of light unless their Beacon Network functioned like the QEC.
With infrastructure almost completely crippled, you don't waste ressources on operations that offer no acceptable success. The Protheans (on Ilos at least) instead focused on building their miniature Relay AFTER the Reapers were gone.
Although my argumentation on that the Protheans didn't attack the Reapers like we are discussing here is speculation, it is a logical one based on facts.
And facts are:
-Infrastructure crippled (Traffic and Communication more less rendered destroyed, alternatives not sufficient)
-Therefore each system isolated (unless they parked all their fleet in one system, their whole military was fractioned and scattered all across their empire)
-At least political head dead within the first attack (=Shockeffect)
Those are operational burdens not necessarily shared by the "nowadays" coucil species as they, at least in theory or at least a few, actually see the attack coming.
No one in here (certain I don't) says that massive nuke usage would be instant win or even comes close to being a deciding factor, but excessive use of said weaponry CAN make a slight difference.
I do not engage in double standards or twist facts around so they fit my argumentation, sir!
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That other species who shot the other Reaper did built a weapon to one-shot a Reaper. We don't know many models were build and how many Reapers got defeated that way, but comparing said weapon with what we commonly refer to as nukes should make clear that the former is a High-Tech/High-Ressource weapon compared to Relatively-Low-Tech/Relatively-Low-Ressource weaponry.
Historic comparision would be the german High-Tech programms at the end of WW2 where High-Quality weapon system were supposed to turn the tide against the Allies. And despite the magnificience of said weapons like the PzKpfW V.-VII., Me262, Ar234 and the weapons Aggregat 4, PzKpfW VIII. and such, we all know how that turned out.
If you are in an (technological) inferiour position, building High-Tech/High-Ressource weapons is contraproductive. The only chance is focusing on massive units you can easily replace upon defeat to enhance the amounts of chances you get to defeat your opponent. Imagine what could have happened if the USSR tried to get on technological par with the germans in WW2 instead of producing cheap weapons and amass conscipts.
Modifié par Neofelis Nebulosa, 23 août 2010 - 05:31 .
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