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My name is Legion, for we are many. [Legion Support Thread v2.0]


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#101
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Kikaimegami wrote...

I know it's the same conversation, but I interpreted it as there being something subtly different with their logic (with math as an example). It could just be me not hearing it the same way you are. I need to listen to it again.

I also wonder that at the end of his mission, if he even will be able to reintegrate, or if he would have changed enough that it would either be impossible, or he'd have to be "fixed" like the Heretics to work in the greater network again.


Doesn't the platform update/contact the rest of the geth quite frequently?

I get the impression that as of the end of ME2, the platform plans on reintegrating and sharing all the information it has found. Given that it has found a huge amount of information. Even if legion becomes more sentimental (I think that's what it is, hormonally-induced courtship behavior) I suspect the platform will reintegrate to share the huge wealth of massively important data that the geth would benefit HUGELY from.

Of course this may change in ME3 but I'm doubtful. Of course the heretics deviated far more than originally expected, so perhaps legion will also change more than previously expected too.

#102
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narthwastaken wrote...
Doesn't the platform update/contact the rest of the geth quite frequently?

I get the impression that as of the end of ME2, the platform plans on reintegrating and sharing all the information it has found. Given that it has found a huge amount of information. Even if legion becomes more sentimental (I think that's what it is, hormonally-induced courtship behavior) I suspect the platform will reintegrate to share the huge wealth of massively important data that the geth would benefit HUGELY from.

Of course this may change in ME3 but I'm doubtful. Of course the heretics deviated far more than originally expected, so perhaps legion will also change more than previously expected too.

He does, but I don't think it's as significant as reintegration would be. The uplink is only to share data, not processing ability. Sharing data doesn't require reintegration--it would be like you using your computer to upload something you created to the internet. Your computer doesn't become one with the greater network (the internet) but you can freely share data with it. Okay yeah that's a crappy example, but you catch my meaning.

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Well, Legion does contact the rest of the geth in order to access files about the Morning War. Not sure how often Legion does try to make contact, though. I would think it logical that he would make a connection right before they went through the Omega-4 Mass Relay, ensuring that the geth have all his memories/data up until the point where he might be destroyed.

The data buoys used by everyone is supposed to work under a tier system, though. Military, politicians, big corporate businesses are all supposed to have higher priority to use the buoys before a layman. Makes me wonder how a geth gains immediate access, but then again, no one hacks better than a geth.

Even if the geth did have another platform ready should the original Legion platform be destroyed, I'm curious to know how much of Legion's personality survives the transfer. For instance, for AIs like EDI, the Codex mentions there will be slight deviations in the AI because of the variations in quantum blueboxes. So EDI on the Normandy wouldn't react the same way as an EDI on another ship.

Personality is also formed by experiences. Imagine if Legion had been completely destroyed on Eden Prime. His last memory is of human aggression, never experiencing the acceptance that Shepard displays.

Modifié par Pacifien, 24 août 2010 - 05:08 .


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Damn I wish to know how to mod.
I have picture in my head for new skin for Legion.

#105
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Kikai's chest cavity poll is out, and it's a good one.

#106
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Pacifien wrote...

Well, Legion does contact the rest of the geth in order to access files about the Morning War. Not sure how often Legion does try to make contact, though. I would think it logical that he would make a connection right before they went through the Omega-4 Mass Relay, ensuring that the geth have all his memories/data up until the point where he might be destroyed.

The data buoys used by everyone is supposed to work under a tier system, though. Military, politicians, big corporate businesses are all supposed to have higher priority to use the buoys before a layman. Makes me wonder how a geth gains immediate access, but then again, no one hacks better than a geth.

Even if the geth did have another platform ready should the original Legion platform be destroyed, I'm curious to know how much of Legion's personality survives the transfer. For instance, for AIs like EDI, the Codex mentions there will be slight deviations in the AI because of the variations in quantum blueboxes. So EDI on the Normandy wouldn't react the same way as an EDI on another ship.

Personality is also formed by experiences. Imagine if Legion had been completely destroyed on Eden Prime. His last memory is of human aggression, never experiencing the acceptance that Shepard displays.


Since he needs permission for EDI to grant him access through the firewalls, I'd imagine that he doesn't contact the geth very often. I can think of twice when you have to give him permission: when downloading the schematics for the Widow, and for the instance you mentioned. I'd like to think that my Shepard either gives a standing order for him to have access when he needs it, or at least allows him access before the Omega 4 relay for the reasons you said--I don't want him being entirely lost. But I have heard that if he dies during the Suicide mission, he gets a 'carrier lost' error when he tries to upload for backup. I hope to god he was able to back up before the mission. I really do. It would be a terrible loss and not just because I like him, but for everything he represents and all of the data he's gathered on organics and interaction with them. It's absolutely invaluable.

As for the buoys, I'd imagine that Legion masks himself as some other entity--possibly whatever EDI masks herself as since he's using her to communicate through as he doesn't have direct access himself. If that's the case, it's likely military or corporate.

Do geth use quantum bluebox technology, or something analogous? I really should re-read all of the codex entries so I know this stuff off hand. I could see how it would change him, though, if there's something unique about the hardware in his platform that cannot be duplicated. If it's something easy to duplicate however, it's really hard to say for certain, but I'd imagine that his runtimes, should they be uploaded to the greater network, would lose something they had being in a single platform. To transfer to a new platform after that would create a new gestalt entity, and "Legion" would likely cease to exist. If they were kept separate, then there would be a greater chance for the gestalt consciousness Legion to be preserved. It's really hard to tell.

If he'd been lost on Eden Prime, not only the geth would have lost a valuable asset. I like to think that if something had happened to his platform, they'd have tried again after a set amount of time of hearing nothing from the mobile platform beyond the veil. He didn't have the armor at that time since he repaired himself with it later, so there's a chance he would still find it and keep it for similar reasons as he used it in the first place.

#107
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Mesina2 wrote...

Damn I wish to know how to mod.
I have picture in my head for new skin for Legion.

Well, describe it and I could give it a shot.

#108
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Kikaimegami wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Damn I wish to know how to mod.
I have picture in my head for new skin for Legion.

Well, describe it and I could give it a shot.

Leopard print?:o

#109
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Calculatrice wrote...
Leopard print?:o

.....hell no. That would be weird.

Now Miranda.. I could totally see her rocking some Leopard print.

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Kikaimegami wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Damn I wish to know how to mod.
I have picture in my head for new skin for Legion.

Well, describe it and I could give it a shot.



Since I'm pretty big nationalist.:)

Image IPB

Something like that.
Only first skin is white while loyalty one is blue.
Also without Nike logo and Croatian football coat of arms.
Squares are also on head.

Modifié par Mesina2, 24 août 2010 - 06:42 .


#111
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I could try that. I already have his textures separated into layers with masks painted already, so I can do pretty much any colour scheme you could ever want without a whole lot of hassle. How are you imagining the checkered pattern used, though? Just on the sides?

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Calculatrice wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Damn I wish to know how to mod.
I have picture in my head for new skin for Legion.

Well, describe it and I could give it a shot.

Leopard print?:o

...
Oddness rising. I would suggest something more in character.

#113
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Kikaimegami wrote...

I could try that. I already have his textures separated into layers with masks painted already, so I can do pretty much any colour scheme you could ever want without a whole lot of hassle. How are you imagining the checkered pattern used, though? Just on the sides?



Side for both and head for only first skin.

Modifié par Mesina2, 24 août 2010 - 08:31 .


#114
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Legion is best!

#115
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Is it possible that Jacob made hole on Legion?

#116
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http://social.biowar...266/polls/9901/

Another silly poll :P

Modifié par Kikaimegami, 24 août 2010 - 09:03 .


#117
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Mesina2 wrote...

Is it possible that Jacob made hole on Legion?

I never thought about that. Sure, I could see how it would be possible. It'd be interesting if that came to light.

#118
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Runescapeguy9 wrote...

Calculatrice wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Damn I wish to know how to mod.
I have picture in my head for new skin for Legion.

Well, describe it and I could give it a shot.

Leopard print?:o

...
Oddness rising. I would suggest something more in character.

 I would think maybe black and camo, possibly highlights of red splatter (like the dragon age logo) would suit him. He's always seemed to me like a kind of film noir type (think Blood and oil, penny arcade), so a detective hat and a trenchcoat would also be... Intruiging.

#119
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I'd want a black and gold Cerberus themed texture.

#120
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Inverness Moon wrote...

I'd want a black and gold Cerberus themed texture.

Would also be nice. Think of a tuxedo texture on him. Snazzy. Legion... Legion Bond.

#121
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Calculatrice wrote...

Legion... Legion Bond.

You're doing it wrong. :whistle:

#122
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Inverness Moon wrote...

Calculatrice wrote...

Legion... Legion Bond.

You're doing it wrong. :whistle:

 Whatever.^_^
James... James bot.

#123
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If the Real Geth think that 2 is more than 1, and the Heretic Geth think that 1 is less than 2, then robot love must be 2 is less than 3. =D

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Haha, my Renegade Pro-Geth, Anti-Quarian (Damn space gypsies.) Shepard has devised a cunning plan to let the Quarians go to war with the Geth but with all the things I've done to weaken the Quarian forces so when they go to war the Quarians get there asses owned...Again. Hopefully ending their puny and pathetic civilization ONCE AND FOR ALL! Muhahahaha



Things I did was:



1. Side with Legion in Tali-Legion argument and give the Geth the intel there going to be attacked so the stupid Quarians are walking into a well-planned counter attack.



2. Brought Legion with me on Tali's loyalty mission so Legion can secretly send information to his Geth buddies about the upcoming War, Quarian ships, Quarian people and other things that might be considered useful intelligience for the so-called "Homeworld reclaiming.".



3. On Legions loyalty mission I told him to make the Heretics convert to the main Geth so there even more powerful.



4. Told the Quarians to go to war with the Geth and wipe them out. (What I meant was...Go straight into Geth Space and get destroyed at the blink of an eye for your stupidity.)



5. Tali died in suicide mission on purpose. I made her unloyal and made her the engineer for the first tech expert. She died because she was the only one who wasn't loyal. Everyone made it except her, lulz. The reason for this more or less murder of Tali was because Tali is probally the only decent Quarian in the game besides Val-Reegar(But he died in Tali's recruitment. Muhahaha!). I doubt the Geth will even lose one platform.

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HomicidialFrog wrote...

Val-Reegar

His name is Kal'Reegar you philistine.

Modifié par Inverness Moon, 25 août 2010 - 07:45 .