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[AFLoneWolf]

It seems as though, aside from stopping the Collector threat, ME2 was more about setting up your allies for the Reaper invasion. A pure Paragon Shepard has a lot of help:
 
all three counsel races
a united Quarian fleet not throwing themselves at the Geth
an army of Geth  united against the Reapers
a strong and effective Krogan leader in Wrex
a LOT of Krogan thanks to Mordin’s student’s data
the Rachni
 
A pure Renegade can pull off victory too, he has worked VERY hard to ensure humanity is the only one left standing.
 
But what if you’ve methodically killed off, destroyed, or alienated everyone and everything that would help you win and you’re stuck with:
 
a weak shortsighted Krogan ruler in Wreave
no backup from Turians, Salarians, or Asari
Quarians bickering among themselves
half of the Geth destroyed and hating all organics
Krogan killing themselves off
A DEAD COMMANDER SHEPARD
 
In Mass Effect 2 death was an option. It made the game better, more real, more fun, and amazing. Victory is assured no matter what you do, you’re just in a much worse shape for what’s to come. Wouldn’t ME3 be so much more realistic, not to mention awesome, if it was possible to lose? To have the Reapers methodically take over the whole galaxy because you couldn’t make the right calls? If ALL the Reapers suddenly show up that would be more than even Shepard and the Normandy can handle.
 
I think failure SHOULD be an option. Anyone disagree?

[Zulu_DFA]

Yes.

[ladyshara]

Meh, to an extent. I don't want them thinking they have to get rid of Shepard so I'm going to say no on that front.

[JGDD]

Definitely. In fact there should be great cut scenes dedicated to the annihilation of the galaxy. But being somewhat pessimistic by nature I expect there will be only: CRITICAL MISSION FAILURE

[Marzillius]

We are dealing with a race of sentient machines that has wiped out galactic civilization countless times. If there was no way to fail, it would be kind of strange.

[PPF65]

There should definitely be the ability to fail, but I worry that such a mechanic would be biased against renegade players, since renegades have less people allied with them and fully prepared to fight. Being a renegade shouldn't equal the end of civilization.

[GodWood]

I'd love to have failure be the ending for my main Shepard,

However I'd like it NOT to be because of imcompetence (ala ME2)

[smudboy]

Considering your can fail in ME2, why not?

[Marzillius]

smudboy wrote...

Considering your can fail in ME2, why not?

You can't actually fail in ME2. You die after you succeed.

[Khirzask]

That'd be depressing as all hell =(

[Count Viceroy]

Hell yes.

[TK Dude]

Yes, it should be dependant on the major choices we made.

But since Bioware dissed the major choices for ME1 in ME2, I'm not getting my hopes up.

[Spectreshadow]

Regarding the renegade comment. If you killed off the Rachni, Wrex, the Council, destroyed the Genophage cure, told the Quarians to go to war, killed the Heretics and kept the base you damn well better be prepared to have the Reapers win.

[wickedwizzard01]

Yes there should be an option to fail in ME3 but not only with a Renegade Shepard.
it would be more difficult to do that with a Paragon Shep since he has more allies he can call upon
but i do not think it would be impossible.
it would certainly make the decisions even more important.
I hope you can fail, and not just the Critical Mission Failure.


EDIT: and if you can fail i do hope it is not just because of something you did in ME1 since that would be a mayor problem,
heck you would have to playtrough ME1 and ME2 Again to rectify that , and in some way i would like that but on the other side not at all, i guess i am a bit on both sides 

Modifié par wickedwizzard01, 22 août 2010 - 09:46 .

[Mallissin]

I have a feeling that DA:O might be a hint into how ME3 might end, where depending on your choices the main character could die while defeating the enemy.



But sort of like Fallout 3, your first play-through has the main character dying but then a DLC later brings you back to life somehow or extends the story through another character.

[Inthatplace]

IF there isn't, what would be the point?

[Mystranna Kelteel]

If there is the opportunity to fail, it will not be dependent on your choices in the previous games.



ME3 is going to have to be another standalone, self-contained game. I'm quite sure Shepard and her general mission in ME3 will be all that's needed to beat the reapers. The "survivors" of the other games will merely add another ship or fleet to the cutscene or something.

[expanding panic]

Absolutely, having an you screwed up and let he Galaxy go extinct option would be sweet.

[Ultai]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

If there is the opportunity to fail, it will not be dependent on your choices in the previous games.

ME3 is going to have to be another standalone, self-contained game. I'm quite sure Shepard and her general mission in ME3 will be all that's needed to beat the reapers. The "survivors" of the other games will merely add another ship or fleet to the cutscene or something.

This is most likely to happen if we go by Casey Hudson's words of ME3 being standalone, as much as it makes me sigh a bit.

[Rebel_Guy]

Ultai wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

If there is the opportunity to fail, it will not be dependent on your choices in the previous games.

ME3 is going to have to be another standalone, self-contained game. I'm quite sure Shepard and her general mission in ME3 will be all that's needed to beat the reapers. The "survivors" of the other games will merely add another ship or fleet to the cutscene or something.

This is most likely to happen if we go by Casey Hudson's words of ME3 being standalone, as much as it makes me sigh a bit.

Yea a bit of a let down making those choices seem to be completely irrelevant to the ending 

[wickedwizzard01]

Rebel_Guy wrote...

Ultai wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

If there is the opportunity to fail, it will not be dependent on your choices in the previous games.

ME3 is going to have to be another standalone, self-contained game. I'm quite sure Shepard and her general mission in ME3 will be all that's needed to beat the reapers. The "survivors" of the other games will merely add another ship or fleet to the cutscene or something.

This is most likely to happen if we go by Casey Hudson's words of ME3 being standalone, as much as it makes me sigh a bit.

Yea a bit of a let down making those choices seem to be completely irrelevant to the ending 

i do not believe that BW will be ignoring all decisions from previous games ,
since they have repeatedly said that the decisions made in especially ME2 would have a BIG impact in ME3
it is however possible that they were referring to the LI only i do not know,

[KainrycKarr]

Please, Bioware-gods, DON'T force a self-sacricing ending on us. It's old and cliche.

[Mallissin]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Please, Bioware-gods, DON'T force a self-sacricing ending on us. It's old and cliche.

SPACE JESUS!

[Inquisitor Recon]

Out of character for my sort of Shepard too. You don't have to outrun the reapers... only whoever has the slowest fleet.