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Elanee, shandra and Georg banter


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I found this note on http://nwn2.wikia.co...i/Shandra_Jerro

- If the PC is male and had chosen the Ladies' Man background, Georg mistakes Shandra for the PC's wife. When Elanee objects, Georg then mistakenly takes it that the PC is having a ménage-à-trois.

What's are the true conditions to trigger this? It never worked for me, it will always show the swamp elf joke with Elanee.

I'm in Act II and I have Ladies' Man feat, male PC. Elanee and Shandra are both in my party. This is my 1st visit to West Harbor (and Georg) while looking for evidence to clear my name.

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Modifié par Red Monster, 26 août 2010 - 03:34 .


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Perhaps it's partially checked by the amount of influence you have with Shandra and Elenee? If Shandra's is higher than x, then this cutscene plays. If Elenee's is higher than x, etc.

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Thank you for the reply Zorr Crew.

This is very plausible. Which mean I may have to reload an old save game and replay things differently...

Modifié par Red Monster, 26 août 2010 - 03:36 .


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I'd bet you also should flirt with Shandra when the opportunity presents itself. "Are you sure you're not here to start some trouble?" etc.

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Yes, I'll do that. I think I can lower my influence with Elanee with Shandra's portrait quest.

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Red Monster wrote...

I found this note on http://nwn2.wikia.co...i/Shandra_Jerro

- If the PC is male and had chosen the Ladies' Man background, Georg mistakes Shandra for the PC's wife. When Elanee objects, Georg then mistakenly takes it that the PC is having a ménage-à-trois.

What's are the true conditions to trigger this? It never worked for me, it will always show the swamp elf joke with Elanee.

I'm in Act II and I have Ladies' Man feat, male PC. Elanee and Shandra are both in my party. This is my 1st visit to West Harbor (and Georg) while looking for evidence to clear my name.

Thanks.

that's weird, i didnt recall seeing this when i checked the toolset, but i could have missed it. there's something similar with bishop and casavir - but i dont believe there was a check for the flirt background option.

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there is no such convo. Someone invented it. The convo just checks if PC is male and then Georg assumes Shandra is his wife. Elanee doesn't really object, cause all the jealousy options seem to have been cut from the game, she just says, "Her?" and then Georg says, "Now, now, no need to protest - I understand how it is with you young folks nowadays. Your secret's safe with me." Now regarding jealousy options, I remember seeing some cut convo in the toolset where Neeshka and Elanee were fighting over the PC if he was male. Similar to Leli and Morrigan fighting over the PC in DAO, lol. When two women are fighting, it's better to stand aside, haha. There are still some hints left at jealousy in the game - during the Leldon business Neeshka and Elanee are at each others' throats and then the PC can side either with Neeshka or Eli. So it's more like a menage-a-4is, or whatever it's called in French, lol, it's the PC and Neeshka and Elanee and Shandra. Interrace breeding, disgusting! It reminds me of my female PC in ME2 sleeping with Garius. Now that was awkward!

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WRFan wrote...

there is no such convo. Someone invented it. The convo just checks if PC is male and then Georg assumes Shandra is his wife. Elanee doesn't really object, cause all the jealousy options seem to have been cut from the game, she just says, "Her?" and then Georg says, "Now, now, no need to protest - I understand how it is with you young folks nowadays. Your secret's safe with me."

Very interesting. Here's what happen to me:

- When I bring Shandra (Elanee is not in my party) to Georg for the 1st time, Georg will  ask if she's my wife. Shandra just says "Wife?" and that's about it.

- When I bring both Shandra and Elanee to Georg for the 1st time, Georg will comment about the swamp elf, then Elanee gives her replies "Ooooo the giant swamp elf...".

- If I talk to Georg a second time after either convo, there's no banter, just Georg usual lines.

On ther other, how did you get the convo you described above? I never found that.

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WRFan wrote...

There are still some hints left at jealousy in the game - during the Leldon business Neeshka and Elanee are at each others' throats and then the PC can side either with Neeshka or Eli.



One of the optional conversations with Elanee goes something like this:

Elanee:  "I notice you're paying a lot of attention to the horned one lately."
PC:  "Why not?  She's a lovely woman."
Elanee:  "Whatever floats your boat.  But don't be blind to other possibilities."

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If I talk to Georg a second time after either convo, there's no banter, just Georg usual lines.



On ther other, how did you get the convo you described above? I never found that.




ok, I took a closer look at Georg's dialog file and the entire conversation is totally broken, nodes are not linked properly. Fixed that, but can't test right now, cause I'm still in act 1. Anyone's interested, download this file:

http://home.arcor.de...n2/11_georg.zip

put it into the Override directory and then try the following:



if you are male:



take Shandra and Elanee with you once Act 2 has started and talk to Georg. This special conversation will only trigger once per game, so make sure to have both Shandra and Elanee with you the first time you talk to Georg in act 2. Also, do NOT take Sand with you, cause he will insult Georg over that elf business and then conversation's over. It now works like this:

-Georg mentions the elf

-Elanee comments on the elf

-Georg mentions Shandra (mistakes her for player's wife)

-Elanee and Shandra comment



if pc is female:



take Elanee, Casavir and/or Bishop with you. Do NOT take Sand with you. Works like this:



-Georg mentions elf

-Elanee comments

-Georg mistakes Bishop/Casavir for player's husband. If both Bishop AND Casavir are in party, preference is given to Bishop.

-Bishop comments, Casavir objects OR Casavir comments if Bishop not in party.



Hope it works now as intended, if you still find any bugs, let me know




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ok, I took a closer look at Georg's dialog file and the entire conversation is totally broken, nodes are not linked properly. Fixed that, but can't test right now, cause I'm still in act 1. Anyone's interested, download this file:

http://home.arcor.de...n2/11_georg.zip

put it into the Override directory and then try the following:

The file worked like a charm! Thank you!