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[Kronner]

Spinoff FPS Mass Effect game could be great. Even if it was only a simple shooter game where you play as a krogan/geth/whatever, I would buy it for sure.

[UndercoverDoctor]

Tazzmission wrote...

UndercoverDoctor wrote...

Badpie wrote...

I don't mind FPS, but that's not what Mass Effect is. It's a third person rpg. Bioware would do well to stick with what they know rather than joining the ranks of dumb and dumber with their first person crap.

Oh good. JUST what we need. Another shooter. Because there are so few of them. /eyeroll.

Not all FPS's are Halo & Call of Duty.

mass effect is more than just a shooter. unlike halo it actually lets the player get to know the squad instead of just randomly have em on there. this **** is the reason why i say shooters take over the market because its fanbase believes  the cover system from cod should be in mass effect and honestly that is the worst idea i ever heard. leave it the way it is and build up from it.

Call of Duty had a cover system?

[Tazzmission]

Val Seleznyov wrote...

UndercoverDoctor wrote...

They could do FPS with Third-Person elements, such as when in cover.

Treyarch did this with Quantum of Solace, and it worked very, very well. Switching to third person view while in cover (and during various intersped quick time events) made good use of Daniel Craig's likeness.

As nobody spends 100 percent of the time admiring their character while in third person view, i think that briefly switching the perspective should satisfy those that that want to be able to see their customised character.

As long as the conversation wheel is kept, i would have no problems with this. In fact i think it would make the game better.

get over it dude just because it worked for a bond game dosent mean mass effect needs to follow the same route

[chfdz]

TPP makes squad managment easier - you can issue the orders from cover etc. If you want a FPP RPG do it like Deus Ex - you're alone and it's in real time (no time stopping to choose something from the power wheel etc.). Fallout 3 is a failiure for me beacause you should either do it like Deus Ex, or stick to turn based game with isometric view like the old ones. Everything in between (like Fallout 3) just feels awkward.

So why to make a FPS out of ME? Just beacause Modern warfare plays nice? I don't think so.

[Daiyus]

When are you guys going to understand that not all FPS games are mindless run'n'gun stuff? it's simply a perspective. Mass Effect could easily have been in First Person. Everything else would be the same, story, conversations, skills, etc. Cover would act like Rainbow Six. I think it'd actually be quite fun.



If a Mass Effect game were to be made using the same formula as CoD I wouldn't be impressed. But a deep, immersive FPSRPG ala Deus Ex would be awesome.

[Tazzmission]

Kronner wrote...

Spinoff FPS Mass Effect game could be great. Even if it was only a simple shooter game where you play as a krogan/geth/whatever, I would buy it for sure.

heres a quick prologe for a spinoff game i came up with


the following events take place a week after me3



after the events of destruction done by the reapers commander shepard has retired from the alliance military or has died in action, former c-sec officer and shepards favorite turrian shipmate garrus vakarin is honored for his heroic bravery and actions during the reaper invasion, he is then been inducted in the the turrian fleet and becomes captain, garrus who is still shaken up and shattered from the events that occured one week ago he decides to continue shepards legacey by maintaning that heroism or sticking to his renegade turrian needs, garrus reasemmbles the normandy's crew but also brings in some top ranking turrian soilders, they set out to hunt every last one of the reapers down in dark space will they succed or will they fail?

[Tazzmission]

Daiyus wrote...



If a Mass Effect game were to be made using the same formula as CoD I wouldn't be impressed. But a deep, immersive FPSRPG ala Deus Ex would be awesome.

if you look at bioware they dont wanna follow the rip off formula, the big thing this company has done wich peaked my interest was they did there own thing because dont forget we have a market filled with ripoff/clone titles. mass effect is fine the way it is. people say the rpg elements in 2 were not there but honestly they were, i just believe that people expected more than what they got so they feel like hey im gona use my voice and basicly change the formula to the game wich imo is a bad move.

[Water Dumple]

UndercoverDoctor wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

UndercoverDoctor wrote...

Badpie wrote...

I don't mind FPS, but that's not what Mass Effect is. It's a third person rpg. Bioware would do well to stick with what they know rather than joining the ranks of dumb and dumber with their first person crap.

Oh good. JUST what we need. Another shooter. Because there are so few of them. /eyeroll.

Not all FPS's are Halo & Call of Duty.

mass effect is more than just a shooter. unlike halo it actually lets the player get to know the squad instead of just randomly have em on there. this **** is the reason why i say shooters take over the market because its fanbase believes  the cover system from cod should be in mass effect and honestly that is the worst idea i ever heard. leave it the way it is and build up from it.

Call of Duty had a cover system?

He clearly doesn't know much about the game he just complained about.

Using Call of Duty 4 as a reference because it's often regarded as the best, there isn't a "cover system" comparable to Mass Effect's. If you're behind an object, you aren't near-invincible until somebody flanks around you, and you aren't classified as "in cover" or " out of cover". Bullets penetrate different surfaces to different degrees, based on range, caliber, and the thickness of the surface. Certain objects can be vaulted based on height, but I'm pretty sure most of those are marked procedurally rather than manually. Effectively, it's 100% dynamic, and not a "cover system" at all. Furthermore, making Mass Effect's combat be first-person (or allow a shift to first-person) doesn't imply that it has to be anything like Call of Duty, or any other FPS. It implies a change in the general system, not a genre switch.


Well, I suppose they need something to complain about, even if they don't make any sense.

Modifié par Water Dumple, 22 août 2010 - 10:38 .

[wickedwizzard01]

what i do not under stand here is this:

compared to FPS games there's not even close to half as much RPG / Story driven games out there than there are FPS games .

and still the FPS fans want to turn every game into an FPS or Multi player game

if they don't like the game it is the should not play/ buy it.

i'm not going onto the MW2 community boards complaining that MW2 needs to be TP and put in RPG elements.

no matter if it would or would not work.

heck i'm not buying a racing game if i like flight sims,

sorry but this is my opinion

if you don't like the game the way it is , then the game might not be for you.

or get a mod or what not,

[Tazzmission]

Water Dumple wrote...

UndercoverDoctor wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

UndercoverDoctor wrote...

Badpie wrote...

I don't mind FPS, but that's not what Mass Effect is. It's a third person rpg. Bioware would do well to stick with what they know rather than joining the ranks of dumb and dumber with their first person crap.

Oh good. JUST what we need. Another shooter. Because there are so few of them. /eyeroll.

Not all FPS's are Halo & Call of Duty.

mass effect is more than just a shooter. unlike halo it actually lets the player get to know the squad instead of just randomly have em on there. this **** is the reason why i say shooters take over the market because its fanbase believes  the cover system from cod should be in mass effect and honestly that is the worst idea i ever heard. leave it the way it is and build up from it.

Call of Duty had a cover system?

He clearly doesn't know much about the game he just complained about.

Using Call of Duty 4 as a reference because it's often regarded as the best, there isn't a "cover system" comparable to Mass Effect's. If you're behind an object, you aren't near-invincible until somebody flanks around you, and you aren't classified as "in cover" or " out of cover". Bullets penetrate different surfaces to different degrees, based on range, caliber, and the thickness of the surface. Certain objects can be vaulted based on height, but I'm pretty sure most of those are marked procedurally rather than manually. Effectively, it's 100% dynamic, and not a "cover system" at all. Furthermore, making Mass Effect's combat be first-person (or allow a shift to first-person) doesn't imply that it has to be anything like Call of Duty, or any other FPS. It implies a change in the general system, not a genre switch.


Well, I suppose they need something to complain about, even if they don't make any sense.

ok i goofed i admit but when are idiotic first person shooter fanboys finally gona realise that every game dosent have to be centered around  cod or halos mechanic? if you honestly picked up both me games do to the shooter element in it that your an idiot because its more than just shoot em up and run

[Val Seleznyov]

Tazzmission wrote...
get over it dude just because it worked for a bond game dosent mean mass effect needs to follow the same route

Punctuation worked for my post, and would probably work for yours too.

[Tazzmission]

Val Seleznyov wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
get over it dude just because it worked for a bond game dosent mean mass effect needs to follow the same route

Punctuation worked for my post, and would probably work for yours too.

yea cool fine w/e you got better punctuation than me but i got a bigger penis than you

[Water Dumple]

Daiyus wrote...

When are you guys going to understand that not all FPS games are mindless run'n'gun stuff? it's simply a perspective. Mass Effect could easily have been in First Person. Everything else would be the same, story, conversations, skills, etc. Cover would act like Rainbow Six. I think it'd actually be quite fun.

If a Mass Effect game were to be made using the same formula as CoD I wouldn't be impressed. But a deep, immersive FPSRPG ala Deus Ex would be awesome.

Damn, that would be epic...It could have the Deus Ex-style inventory system, with items taking up different amounts of space, biotic powers could take the place of the bio-electric implants, and so on. It wouldn't blend so well with Mass Effect's different mission style, but other mechanics would.

[Val Seleznyov]

Tazzmission wrote...

Val Seleznyov wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
get over it dude just because it worked for a bond game dosent mean mass effect needs to follow the same route

Punctuation worked for my post, and would probably work for yours too.

yea cool fine w/e you got better punctuation than me but i got a bigger penis than you

You sound like the majority of the children that play Modern Warfare 2. I guess all genres attract their fair share of idiots.

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

They should make a ME game where you can go in 1st and 3rd person like Fallout 3. I would like that... still an RPG but with the ability to go in 1st person.

[weldersbench]

Why not make a ME spin-off type game? where you can chose what race you are and your powers ect? over the shoulder view for people who preffer that and FP for the other woh preffer that?

[Tazzmission]

Val Seleznyov wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Val Seleznyov wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
get over it dude just because it worked for a bond game dosent mean mass effect needs to follow the same route

Punctuation worked for my post, and would probably work for yours too.

yea cool fine w/e you got better punctuation than me but i got a bigger penis than you

You sound like the majority of the children that play Modern Warfare 2. I guess all genres attract their fair share of idiots.

mass effect is really the only shooter type game i play because if i wanted to play cod or shoot people up i'd joint the military. what you sir fail to understand is the reason why bioware is such a success is because they basicly create there own engines and gameplay making it something new instead of some ripoff.

[chfdz]

Water Dumple wrote...

Daiyus wrote...



When are you guys going to understand that not all FPS games are mindless run'n'gun stuff? it's simply a perspective. Mass Effect could easily have been in First Person. Everything else would be the same, story, conversations, skills, etc. Cover would act like Rainbow Six. I think it'd actually be quite fun.



If a Mass Effect game were to be made using the same formula as CoD I wouldn't be impressed. But a deep, immersive FPSRPG ala Deus Ex would be awesome.

Damn, that would be epic...It could have the Deus Ex-style inventory system, with items taking up different amounts of space, biotic powers could take the place of the bio-electric implants, and so on. It wouldn't blend so well with Mass Effect's different mission style, but other mechanics would.

This thread originated with a post about a FPS shooter with online, so i can see why are some people concerned, and even a game like Rainbow Six looses a bit of it's tactical feel when online,right (unless we're talking something like co-op)?



And as Tazzmission said Bioware does it's own thing.Deus Ex like game wouldn't feel like a Bioware game, KOTOR,ME,DA - it's all about the team based combat Bioware doesn't do that kind of games, but still Deus Ex is probably the best game ever, so maybe Mass Effect 4 or something could play like it, why not? Still would they be willing to do it?

[Tazzmission]

weldersbench wrote...

Why not make a ME spin-off type game? where you can chose what race you are and your powers ect? over the shoulder view for people who preffer that and FP for the other woh preffer that?

my concern is story when it comes to spinoffs. should me Follow and do what comics do and thats continuity?

Modifié par Tazzmission, 22 août 2010 - 10:55 .

[Val Seleznyov]

Tazzmission wrote...
mass effect is really the only shooter type game i play because if i wanted to play cod or shoot people up i'd joint the military. what you sir fail to understand is the reason why bioware is such a success is because they basicly create there own engines and gameplay making it something new instead of some ripoff.

I'm ex-Russian navy. Perhaps i play CoD because i could never cut it in the Spetsnaz. Only no, that's a moronic thing to suggest. The realities of military life are really quite different to a computer game.

Bioware didn't invent the third person shooter. I have little doubt that they could produce something equally as fresh based around a FPS.

[chfdz]

Tazzmission wrote...

weldersbench wrote...

Why not make a ME spin-off type game? where you can chose what race you are and your powers ect? over the shoulder view for people who preffer that and FP for the other woh preffer that?

my concern is story when it comes to spinoffs. should me Follow and do what comics do and thats continuity?

I think it's a grat material for a 20$ PSN/XBL game. Short and sweet, and not to much story needed then. 

[LilKis1]

Are you crazy! An FPS game!? That would suck! I want a RPG. Not some FPS that is all around the gaming community. We got too many FPS games as is. I wouldn't buy it if it turned into a FPS.

[MTN Dew Fanatic]

[Jaron Oberyn]

Guys you have nothing to worry about. Bioware is an RPG company, not an FPS company. They're not going to make Mass Effect an FPS. This is just a shooter fanboy dreaming up an idea. Relax. That's like trying to get Treyarch or Infinity Ward to create an RPG or arcade racer. Or trying to get a rock artist to rap. Different companies specialize in certain genres. Bioware specializes in RPG's. Their main focus is story, not mindless FPS.



-Polite

[Tazzmission]

chfdz wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

weldersbench wrote...

Why not make a ME spin-off type game? where you can chose what race you are and your powers ect? over the shoulder view for people who preffer that and FP for the other woh preffer that?

my concern is story when it comes to spinoffs. should me Follow and do what comics do and thats continuity?

I think it's a grat material for a 20$ PSN/XBL game. Short and sweet, and not to much story needed then. 

or like ive mentioned many times before a mass effect game where humans found prothean technolgy on mars then they advance into the universe. now when you look at sci fi films books or games we see humans in space but how often do we see how mankind gets there?