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[Elvis_Mazur]

As long as it has quality, I would love it.

[wickedwizzard01]

hell i dunno where you all dig up these comparisons between HALO and ME

sure they both have guns in it and yes they both have space ships,

but thats where the simularitie ends



it's more like comparing a Mercedes with a Pinto

ME an HALO are totally different games

[haberman13]

They should remove all the story parts, concentrate on shooting.



While they are at it, remove everything but 10 multiplayer deathmatch maps.



The world has enough RPGs, we need more pew pews.

[wickedwizzard01]

haberman13 wrote...

They should remove all the story parts, concentrate on shooting.

While they are at it, remove everything but 10 multiplayer deathmatch maps.

The world has enough RPGs, we need more pew pews.

WOT? here's hoping that it is just sarcasm:o

[Tazzmission]

haberman13 wrote...

They should remove all the story parts, concentrate on shooting.

While they are at it, remove everything but 10 multiplayer deathmatch maps.

The world has enough RPGs, we need more pew pews.

i should slap you upside your head for that but i dont know if your serious or saracstic

[FataliTensei]

masseffectfan00 wrote...

After ME3 Bioware needs to make future ME games as FPS with online.  America's and the rest of the world's future would be worse off because young kids will be addicted to the game and cant concentrate on school but it would be worth it.

The way BW is going I'm sure you'll get your wish, - any RPG elements to get in your way

[ArchDemonXIII]

Having multiple genres based off of one IP always leads to bad things. Look at Star Wars... they had all these action games and then they messed it up by trying to do RPG's... oh whoops.

Modifié par ArchDemonXIII, 23 août 2010 - 05:26 .

[Tazzmission]

ArchDemonXIII wrote...

Having multiple genres based off of one IP always leads to bad things. Look at Star Wars... they had all these action games and then they messed it up by trying to do RPG's... oh whoops.

kotor was and still is a classic. believe it or not im gona do a quick game play of it tonight on my 360

[ArchDemonXIII]

That's kinda my point, Tazz.


The Dark Forces / Jedi Knight series are also considered classic.

Modifié par ArchDemonXIII, 23 août 2010 - 05:40 .

[Daeion]

casedawgz wrote...

Daeion wrote...

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...
People here are violently anti-FPS for some reason, but not all FPS games have to be Fratcore killfests.
 

I don't think it's that people are really anti-FPS, it's just that there are already so many companies out there making quality FPS games and so few making quality RPG's that most don't feel there is a need for BW to go down the FPS role.

I dunno. Most people on here refuse to acknowledge that ANY FPS' are quality games. There really isn't much of a case to be made for MW2 as an out and out bad game but people say it here all the time.

Well if it's not their cup of tea it's going to be a bad game.  To me Madden is a bad game, but it's not my cup of tea and I realize that their are millions of people who will disagree with me.

[Daeion]

ArchDemonXIII wrote...

Having multiple genres based off of one IP always leads to bad things. Look at Star Wars... they had all these action games and then they messed it up by trying to do RPG's... oh whoops.

You're right, multiple genres of one IP can be done very well, however it typically requires different development studios to do this.  I think that most people's concern is that BW might try to do it all on their own, splitting their resources or that the 2nd studio won't be of the same quality and all of a sudden instead of one great game we are left with 2 mediocre games.

Modifié par Daeion, 23 août 2010 - 06:13 .

[Tazzmission]

Daeion wrote...

casedawgz wrote...

Daeion wrote...

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...
People here are violently anti-FPS for some reason, but not all FPS games have to be Fratcore killfests.
 

I don't think it's that people are really anti-FPS, it's just that there are already so many companies out there making quality FPS games and so few making quality RPG's that most don't feel there is a need for BW to go down the FPS role.

I dunno. Most people on here refuse to acknowledge that ANY FPS' are quality games. There really isn't much of a case to be made for MW2 as an out and out bad game but people say it here all the time.

Well if it's not their cup of tea it's going to be a bad game.  To me Madden is a bad game, but it's not my cup of tea and I realize that their are millions of people who will disagree with me.

to me shooters have over flooded the market and truthfully the only 2 shooters i play are mass effect and dead space, i played both gears of war titles and it was fun but honestly there way to damn over rated. instead of crafting a story companies are more focused on the online fans then they are on the average gamer. i may not own live for a few more weeks but if im gona pay 65 dollars for a game i want the story to be longer than 10-12 hours. and the reason why i trash on shooters is because the fanbase for that genere is like we want this in w/e other title

Modifié par Tazzmission, 23 août 2010 - 06:34 .

[chfdz]

Tazzmission wrote...

to me shooters have over flooded the market and truthfully the only 2 shooters i play are mass effect and dead space, i played both gears of war titles and it was fun but honestly there way to damn over rated. instead of crafting a story companies are more focused on the online fans then they are on the average gamer. i may not own live for a few more weeks but if im gona pay 65 dollars for a game i want the story to be longer than 10-12 hours. and the reason why i trash on shooters is because the fanbase for that genere is like we want this in w/e other title

Seems like the only shooters you play aren't shooters at all. I mean you can say a lot about Mass Effect but it is still an RPG whith shooter elements (some may disagree it's not a "clean" RPG, blend of a RPG an tactical shooter perhaps , but calling it only a shooter is just wrong). And Dead Space? It's a survival horror. Sure you shoot stuff in it - but calling it only a shooter is wrong too beacuse it's misleading - it's not what typical shooter fan (let's say Gears of War fan) would expect - too much downtime wandering dark corridors, weapon managment etc. Someone also mentioned Thief. Theif was never, ever a shooter! It's just played in first person, but it's a stealth game - only thing you shoot with is your bow, and you usually dont use it to hurt people anyway. And let me say  there are a lot of good FPS games out there, but do we really need mass effect FPS? As I said earlier it could be a nice idea for a spinoff PSN/XBL game but only a spinoff, not a main game. Sure they should change things in ME4 to make something new - but keep it an RPG. It's like with Need for Speed. Sure the changed a lot with Shift: it is more ralistic now etc. but it's a still racing game. We don't need Mass Effect FPS INSTEAD of an RPG now do we? Don't turn FedEx into Starbucks or something - it'll just leave people confused (lack of a better metaphor from changing RPG to FPS i guess...).

[JustValiant]

I would prefer an action adventure.

[mdouglas86]

I think what some people posting in this thread are overlooking is that the OP was referring to games in the ME universe AFTER ME 3 has come out. I don't think anyone wants ME 3 to be a FPS. A FPS game would have to be a spin-off game chronicaling the solo adventures of another crew member pre or post ME trilogy time period. Or it could be another character from the novels/extended universe.



Like several others have said, people tend to have very narrow minded views of what FPS really means around here. Half-Life was probably one of my favorite games of all time, and it's probably no closer in similarity to COD-like shooters than ME, it had a rich story and an excellent campaign. Deus Ex is a game that I never played but has been mentioned by others around here. All I know is that the new one looks pretty damn awesome, and looks to have a ton of customization and multiple ways of approaching fights (which is more than I can say for either ME).



I also think it's important to note that "multiplayer" is also more of a broad category than simple deathmatch fragfests. We're now seeing a lot of new ways to play with other people, not excluding co-op, which is also technically multiplayer. Games like splinter cell which had unique multiplayer modes like spy vs. mercs show that multiplayer modes don't always have to be pigeonholed into deathmatches of CTF. I've always kind of wanted some planets in ME where you could get into random enemy encounters and just have battles. It would be cool to do when you weren't doing a quest or trying to advance the story. This could serve as some kind of a horde/firefight mode where you can take your customized Shepherd and play with others in a squad. Also, by the time the proposed FPS game would be released would be multiple years away so multiplayer gaming will have even more chances to evolve from what it is now.



Basically, what I'm saying is that thinking of FPS just in terms of COD or Halo is just being wayyyy too narrowminded. There are a lot of cool possibilities, and it would be after the ME trilogy has already been finished, so it's not like it would take away resources from ME 3. Bioware could even bring in another studio to help with this kind of a game so that it can focus on the mechanics while BioWare ensures the story and immersion is up to snuff.

[Tazzmission]

bioware COULD do a biotic game for the wii and 360's kinect.... imagine using biotic powers for a full game by you yourself beiming not just the charachter but the controller as well

[Khayness]

mdouglas86 wrote...

Half-Life was probably one of my favorite games of all time, and it's probably no closer in similarity to COD-like shooters than ME, it had a rich story and an excellent campaign.

But there aren't many games like that coming off from the conveyor belt are there? Check some fragfest minded FPS player's rant about HL having too much crawling around and not enough action. The Brave New World.

Basically, what I'm saying is that thinking of FPS just in terms of COD or Halo is just being wayyyy too narrowminded. There are a lot of cool possibilities

Haha, tell that to the publishers. A new cool idea sounds risky, let's just make a "gritty realistic military shooter"™ it's an already succesful concept, a cow with a lot of milk in it.

It's not entirely narrow-mindedness.

Modifié par Khayness, 23 août 2010 - 07:16 .

[casedawgz]

Spin offs are fair game. Republic Commando seemed like a ridiculous idea for an FPS but it was a kickass game. Experiencing the wonderful ME universe in a new way without it interfering with ME3 is not a bad thing.

[PsyrenY]

Gears of War Combat + ME Story/RPG elements would be a match made in heaven. ME has already sidestepped the negatives - counterable defenses instead of just giving enemies absurd amounts of health; Realistic badasses instead of steroid-infused uber-macho faceless marines; interesting enemies/immersive setting, etc.

[ArchDemonXIII]

Just had an interesting thought.



Know what could make an interesting FPS spinoff?



Archangel on Omega. Nuff said.

[Comrade Bork]

casedawgz wrote...

Spin offs are fair game. Republic Commando seemed like a ridiculous idea for an FPS but it was a kickass game. Experiencing the wonderful ME universe in a new way without it interfering with ME3 is not a bad thing.

+9001 for mentioning the best Star Wars game ever.

[MisterDyslexo]

StarMarine wrote...

I would prefer an action adventure.

Hmm... like the games that are already out? Nuff said

[mdouglas86]

Khayness wrote...

mdouglas86 wrote...

Half-Life was probably one of my favorite games of all time, and it's probably no closer in similarity to COD-like shooters than ME, it had a rich story and an excellent campaign.

But there aren't many games like that coming off from the conveyor belt are there? Check some fragfest minded FPS player's rant about HL having too much crawling around and not enough action. The Brave New World.

Basically, what I'm saying is that thinking of FPS just in terms of COD or Halo is just being wayyyy too narrowminded. There are a lot of cool possibilities

Haha, tell that to the publishers. A new cool idea sounds risky, let's just make a "gritty realistic military shooter"™ it's an already succesful concept, a cow with a lot of milk in it.

It's not entirely narrow-mindedness.

Well there was...Half-Life 2 fairly recently .  But seriously,  what about Fallout 3?  I would classify that as more of an RPG than anything else, but it is indisputably in first person perspective with real-time shooting (except for VATS).  Far Cry was another game that had a very different feel to it from your Halos or CODs.  Does Bioshock ring a bell to anyone??? That was a very different style from your standard FPS, and it fits very well with the kind of FPS you might expect from a ME FPS with the character using powers with one hand and guns with the other a 'la biotics and tech powers.  To me that's a perfect template to start with when thinking about the gameplay mechanics and immersive environments that could be incorporated into a ME FPS.  If you added the conversation dynamics and more extensive progression system that BioWare has come to be known for, I think it would be a great game. 

And last time I checked, all of these games were pretty well received both critically and via sales.  Two of these games were game of the year candidates across all genres.  One could do worse than trying to adapt these templates to the Mass Effect Universe. 

Has anyone seen previews for Brink?  It's a FPS being published by Bethesda (Fallout 3, Oblivion).  It's definitely pretty innovative in the way you interact with your environment, level up, and play with others.  It's just another example of a company going against the grain of what it's known for and really bringing something new and innovative to a sometimes stale genre.  I see no reason why BioWare couldn't do something similar in the Mass Effect Universe.

[Daeion]

Tazzmission wrote...

Daeion wrote...

casedawgz wrote...

Daeion wrote...

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...
People here are violently anti-FPS for some reason, but not all FPS games have to be Fratcore killfests.
 

I don't think it's that people are really anti-FPS, it's just that there are already so many companies out there making quality FPS games and so few making quality RPG's that most don't feel there is a need for BW to go down the FPS role.

I dunno. Most people on here refuse to acknowledge that ANY FPS' are quality games. There really isn't much of a case to be made for MW2 as an out and out bad game but people say it here all the time.

Well if it's not their cup of tea it's going to be a bad game.  To me Madden is a bad game, but it's not my cup of tea and I realize that their are millions of people who will disagree with me.

to me shooters have over flooded the market and truthfully the only 2 shooters i play are mass effect and dead space, i played both gears of war titles and it was fun but honestly there way to damn over rated. instead of crafting a story companies are more focused on the online fans then they are on the average gamer. i may not own live for a few more weeks but if im gona pay 65 dollars for a game i want the story to be longer than 10-12 hours. and the reason why i trash on shooters is because the fanbase for that genere is like we want this in w/e other title

well to be fair, most shooters are actually about the multiplayer experience and the single player is just there as filler.

[Daeion]

MisterDyslexo wrote...

StarMarine wrote...

I would prefer an action adventure.

Hmm... like the games that are already out? Nuff said

Are you trying to say ME and ME2 are action adventure?  Because I sure don't think action adventure when I think ME and ME2