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[Tirigon]

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

Frivolous thread is frivolous, but in the previous game, I wanted  the Warden to look like me. But an African American skin tone was impossible no matter how much I played around with the character creator. Thus, I was wondering if it'd be possible in Dragon Age 2.

I certainly hope so, even though I won´t use it. Fem!Hawke in Goth-look ftw^^

[pizoxuat]

<--------- I liked this character that I created, but to my eye she looks mixed race.



The black elf I tried to make definitely just looks sunburned. More skin tones would be lovely, some less pink.

[Darthnemesis2]

Bobad wrote...

Darthnemesis2 wrote...

No, because you are still referring to your past. If you *really* wanted to be progressive you'd write something like "homosuperior"

No, I would do so if I had some interest in eugenics & selective breeding, which I do not

Well whatever you choose to call the next evolution of humanity. But, 'human' is not progressive, its stagnant, that's what we are now. Think bigger!

[atheelogos]

Arttis wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

atheelogos wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

atheelogos wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

atheelogos wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

Call them brown and be done with it.

?? No that would be hispanic people

No. Hispanic people are Hispanic people.

I meant if you had to assign a color thats what most would call them, or at least thats how it is my area.

We have to draw a line somewhere.

I submit here and now that Black people are now Brown people and that Hispanic people are . . . still Hispanic people.

lol wait if black is now brown then who is black?

Nobody. There is no black skin color.

You would be wrong.

Actually he might be right. I don't think the melanin in human skin can produce black shades. I'm pretty sure the darkest it can go is dark brown. Again I'm not 100% certain of tha claim.

[burrito]

[thegreateski]

That man needs to visit a dentist. ASAP.

[Darthnemesis2]

burrito wrote...

That's clearly a sunburn

[Arttis]

I say I will argue semantics till the end of the world.

[Lucy Glitter]

I hope we do get more darker skintones this time around. Sure, we had browner colours, but they did look a bit odd without the mods to fix it, so.



I just hope people don't assume BW is racist or anything, I think they probably intended all skin colours but whoever did the character textures screwed it up, so.



I do remember that the skin tones looked better in game, though. Than in the CC. They looked less pink.

[Seifz]

Bobad wrote...

Seifz wrote...

Bobad wrote...

Darthnemesis2 wrote...

atheelogos wrote...

Heavenblade wrote...

People are throwing around the word "african" as a synonym for black. Such people have either never seen anyone from north africa or been there.

Perhaps they mean sub-Saharan?

They mean both. And yes thats why I don't like the term African American. Because most blacks have never been there nor do they know anything about the land. Its like white people saying british american.... Yeah it sounds kinda weird doesn't it.

I actually do check the 'other' box and write in "European American" on papers/documents/whatever.

I tick Other and write Human, as anything else is just backward tribal affiliation bull**** without progressive thought.

Not really.

So how is referring to your ancestoral origins progressive, regressing to past designations is surely the antithesis of progession?

Medicine.  While it's true that we're all human, our ancestors adapted to different environments on Earth.  For example, most Europeans (and later Americans) developed a tolerance for milk beyond infancy.  Many Africans have sickle-shaped blood cells to combat Malaria.

Culture.  While it's true that we're all human, our ancestors developed different cultural habits and traditions.  Greeting another person in Japan is different than greeting another person in Germany.  Certain foods are accepted in India while those same foods may not be accepted in Iraq.

There are many reasons to consider where someone is from and who there ancestors were.  Indeed, forgetting about these differences would be quite terrible.

EDIT:  If you don't buy all of that, perhaps you'll buy this.  Why stop at human?  Why not insist that we write "******" on our papers?  Why not go further and insist on "mammal"?  Vertibrate, animal, multi-celled being?  See how silly it gets?

Modifié par Seifz, 22 août 2010 - 11:23 .

[mellifera]

Some people on this thread are just awful.

I also want better black skintones in the game, the darkest I could get was like, purple. WTF. Good things there are mods that help, but even then darker tints didn't apply well over the face textures.

Modifié par yukidama, 22 août 2010 - 11:21 .

[pizoxuat]

yukidama wrote...

I also want better black skintones in the game, the darkest I could get was like, purple. WTF. Good things there are mods that help, but even then darker tints didn't apply well over the face textures.

This is very true.  You have to go with the least detail facial texture when you're making a character with darker skin because it looks all sorts of unreal and horrible.

[burrito]

I tried to play a black cousland but it was hard having 2 white parents.

[Arttis]

burrito wrote...

I tried to play a black cousland but it was hard having 2 white parents.

*spoiler*
THey only last the origin.

[Lucy Glitter]

burrito wrote...

I tried to play a black cousland but it was hard having 2 white parents.

Heh, yeah. I guess you could pretend you were adopted? Iunno. It's easier to go mage, tbh. 

As I said, i think it was just the engine/textures that didn't work out right, which is irritating. We all know Origins had a few bugs, though 

edit: You know, I actually think it was the lighting. Darker coloured avatars look horrible in avatar form. 

Modifié par Lucy_Glitter, 22 août 2010 - 11:27 .

[Indoctrination]

I'm usually all for having as many skin colours as realistically possible, but I think it would be weird in Dragon Age 2. One of the main characters is your sister, who is... not African. Wouldn't that make such a character really stand out and feel really awkwardly placed? It would be 100 times worse than brown skinned Cousland. If anything it would only create a lot of mockery and bad jokes about how different African Hawkes look compared to Beth.



Unless they want to make alternate skin models for Hawke's family too, I think it's probably best to just leave Hawke as whatever race his family is.

[burrito]

Arttis wrote...

burrito wrote...

I tried to play a black cousland but it was hard having 2 white parents.

*spoiler*
THey only last the origin.

Hell, I even knocked boots with 2 white chicks and bromanced a hispanic elf.

[Ceesko]

Scipio203 wrote...

Ceesko wrote...

Moorish themed culture should be added to DA imo.

I believe that the qunari are based off of Middle Eastern culture. (yes I know the Moors were in Spain)

The Qunari are  based on sunni Seljuk and Ottoman turks. I am talking about the moors, the coalition of black africans, berber tribes and bedouin arabs that conqured hispania and formed andalusia. They are nothing like the turks, who where extremist and attacked christian pilgrims on the way to the holy land, Andalusia on the other hand was very tolerant.

[atheelogos]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

I hope we do get more darker skintones this time around. Sure, we had browner colours, but they did look a bit odd without the mods to fix it, so.

I just hope people don't assume BW is racist or anything, I think they probably intended all skin colours but whoever did the character textures screwed it up, so.

I do remember that the skin tones looked better in game, though. Than in the CC. They looked less pink.

"I just hope people don't assume BW is racist or anything" I don't think anyone thinks that.

" I think they probably intended all skin colours" They said in interview that they wanted people to play a white character because it fits with lore for that country. They left certain skin outs on purpose. And they shouldn't add darker skins unless there is a purpose.

[burrito]

[quote]burrito wrote...

[quote]Arttis wrote...

[quote]burrito wrote...

I tried to play a black cousland but it was hard having 2 white parents. [/quote]
*spoiler*
THey only last the origin.

[/quote]


Being black was awesome besides having 2 white parents. Hell, I even knocked boots with 2 white chicks and bromanced a hispanic elf.

Modifié par burrito, 22 août 2010 - 11:30 .

[atheelogos]

Indoctrination wrote...

I'm usually all for having as many skin colours as realistically possible, but I think it would be weird in Dragon Age 2. One of the main characters is your sister, who is... not African. Wouldn't that make such a character really stand out and feel really awkwardly placed? It would be 100 times worse than brown skinned Cousland. If anything it would only create a lot of mockery and bad jokes about how different African Hawkes look compared to Beth..

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[Perfect-Kenshin]

Indoctrination wrote...

I'm usually all for having as many skin colours as realistically possible, but I think it would be weird in Dragon Age 2. One of the main characters is your sister, who is... not African. Wouldn't that make such a character really stand out and feel really awkwardly placed? It would be 100 times worse than brown skinned Cousland. If anything it would only create a lot of mockery and bad jokes about how different African Hawkes look compared to Beth.

Unless they want to make alternate skin models for Hawke's family too, I think it's probably best to just leave Hawke as whatever race his family is.

Could we not extend the same argument to making Hawk look indian or asian (both skintones which are supported)?

[burrito]

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

Indoctrination wrote...

I'm usually all for having as many skin colours as realistically possible, but I think it would be weird in Dragon Age 2. One of the main characters is your sister, who is... not African. Wouldn't that make such a character really stand out and feel really awkwardly placed? It would be 100 times worse than brown skinned Cousland. If anything it would only create a lot of mockery and bad jokes about how different African Hawkes look compared to Beth.

Unless they want to make alternate skin models for Hawke's family too, I think it's probably best to just leave Hawke as whatever race his family is.

Could we not extend the same argument to making Hawk look indian or asian (both skintones which are supported)?

Just tilt the eyes.

[Indoctrination]

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

Could we not extend the same argument to making Hawk look indian or asian (both skintones which are supported)?

Absolutely. Like I tried to say before, non-caucasian Cousland looked really awkward in Origins. When you're writing a character with a family, I think some concessions need to be made for continuity. Maybe Cousland Warden should have been limited to the skin colour of Bryce while Wardens from say the Magi origin should be any colour you want, because you don't see your mage's family, so it's up to the player.

[Ceesko]

Gaider says Thedas is equivalent of Europe, so we have the qunari behave like Turks, but where are my moors? They played a huge role in European middle ages, from the battle of tours to the reconquesta, the where also considered a hot bed of intellectual thought, the first concept of secularism was developed in Andalusia by Ibn rushd, known in Latin as Averroes



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Rushd