tpryan01 wrote...
Dave of Canada wrote...
marquiseondore wrote...
Games are interactive. Sims players are still gamers.
Would you consider people who only play Farmville to be "gamers"?
It is ok Dave even though you play farmville I still consider you a gamer ;-)
iTomes wrote...
*whispers* i think shes referring to the multiplayer trailer *stops whispering*addiction21 wrote...
tpryan01 wrote...
I don't care about a female blur trailer, but how about just letting people know you can play as a female. There is still no way someone who wasn't actively researching ME or DA would know the option exists currently.
and again the Old Republic trailer does a great job of letting female fans know they can play.
No it does not. It shows no aspects of the game and is just a trailer with a female in it. That is no confirmation as to what is actually in the game or what you can or can not do in the game. You cannot know for certain that that option is present unless you actively look into it. You can only assume.
The sacred ashes trailer shows Sten with a goatee, Leli jumping incredible heights, Morrigans shapeshifting to be usefull, and the warden with glowing eyes.
CGI trailers rarley if ever are actually indicative as to what a game is like or what features there are.
tpryan01 wrote...
Dave of Canada wrote...
marquiseondore wrote...
Games are interactive. Sims players are still gamers.
Would you consider people who only play Farmville to be "gamers"?
It is ok Dave even though you play farmville I still consider you a gamer ;-)
doesn't matter. dont change subject. why are bioware games no rpgs and why are rpgs female-unfriendly.tpryan01 wrote...
If you think that you haven't been reading my posts. Enough about the studies. I've done my best.
Let's go back to the core question.
Ladies how did you find out you could play as a female?
Saibh wrote...
marquiseondore wrote...
Games are interactive. Sims players are still gamers.
I disagree respectfully. I think you need to have a love of video games, plural, as a medium. You might have a preference to a genre or console, but video games in general take up much of your leisure time. I can make vague assumptions of any group if I defined the term so broadly. Are you an artist because you doodle?--I don't think so, but you don't have to be a good artist to still be an artist. Are you goth because you were black and dark mark-up? A vegetarian because you don't like meat?
I would at least say that it's valid to call those people "casual gamers".
tpryan01 wrote...
If you think that you haven't been reading my posts. Enough about the studies. I've done my best.
Let's go back to the core question.
Ladies how did you find out you could play as a female?
tpryan01 wrote...
hmm I see a large # of fellows in your farmville friends.
Modifié par Dave of Canada, 23 août 2010 - 07:13 .
Dave of Canada wrote...
marquiseondore wrote...
Games are interactive. Sims players are still gamers.
Would you consider people who only play Farmville to be "gamers"?
then just quote yourself or whatever, or simply answer again.tpryan01 wrote...
? I've been saying the same thing all day I answered these questions already
marquiseondore wrote...
Saibh wrote...
marquiseondore wrote...
Games are interactive. Sims players are still gamers.
I disagree respectfully. I think you need to have a love of video games, plural, as a medium. You might have a preference to a genre or console, but video games in general take up much of your leisure time. I can make vague assumptions of any group if I defined the term so broadly. Are you an artist because you doodle?--I don't think so, but you don't have to be a good artist to still be an artist. Are you goth because you were black and dark mark-up? A vegetarian because you don't like meat?
I would at least say that it's valid to call those people "casual gamers".
Again you are assuming that a person who plays Sims only plays that game or do not love playing games. A casual gamer is still a gamer.
A doodler is an artist by their creativity. A goth does not need to wear dark make-up.
yes, because ill read through that whole 20 pages long thread, plus eventually a few others because you simply suggested to throw in statements without bringin actual arguments.tpryan01 wrote...
oooor go back and read the earlier threads
marquiseondore wrote...
Dave of Canada wrote...
marquiseondore wrote...
Games are interactive. Sims players are still gamers.
Would you consider people who only play Farmville to be "gamers"?
Dave Farmville is a game. It may not be a good one, but it's still a game.
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tpryan01 wrote...
oooor go back and read the earlier threads
tpryan01 wrote...
oooor go back and read the earlier threads
tpryan01 wrote...
Ask me a specific question that has to do with whether bioware's current marketing campaign appeals to a female audience.
considering that you actually made more effort telling us reasons "why you cant show us arguments and that we should read everything ourselves blabla", effort in which you simply could've quoted yourself i suspect you dont have any arguments and simply thought producing some bullcr@p about how evil video games are towards woman would help your point.tpryan01 wrote...
but I should retype the same thing on every new page.
Ask me a specific question that has to do with whether bioware's current marketing campaign appeals to a female audience.
Saibh wrote...
marquiseondore wrote...
Saibh wrote...
marquiseondore wrote...
Games are interactive. Sims players are still gamers.
I disagree respectfully. I think you need to have a love of video games, plural, as a medium. You might have a preference to a genre or console, but video games in general take up much of your leisure time. I can make vague assumptions of any group if I defined the term so broadly. Are you an artist because you doodle?--I don't think so, but you don't have to be a good artist to still be an artist. Are you goth because you were black and dark mark-up? A vegetarian because you don't like meat?
I would at least say that it's valid to call those people "casual gamers".
Again you are assuming that a person who plays Sims only plays that game or do not love playing games. A casual gamer is still a gamer.
A doodler is an artist by their creativity. A goth does not need to wear dark make-up.
No, I'm not. I'm assuming that people who only play those casual games are not gamers. I play The Sims myself, and I love it. I own all of the expansions and Stuff packs for the third one. I also love geeking out on my 360. I'm a multi-task nerd.
That's not my point. My point is, just because someone does the things associated with that group does not make them a part of it. And, no doodling on your homework doesn't make you an artist. Doodling the Mona Lisa, maybe.
Do artists not doodle? That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that there are other criterion you need to fit, or the name of the group loses its value and no longer becomes a group. Everyone has doodled at one point in their lives. They're not all artists. If you apply the term so broadly, then the word couldn't exist.
marquiseondore wrote...
Art and creativity go hand in hand. As you pointed out; you need not be a good artist to be an artist. A doodler can make little MAD magazine comic in the corner of their homework. If they are just making tally's, well that's not creative or artistic is it.
tpryan01 wrote...
If you think that you haven't been reading my posts. Enough about the studies. I've done my best.
Let's go back to the core question.
Ladies how did you find out you could play as a female?
(Although I've been a fan of Bioware's for a long time and know that they allow you to have a choice of making a female character. Being a female gamer its just plain sad that they don't make trailers with a female lead in them. 
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Dave of Canada wrote...
marquiseondore wrote...
Dave of Canada wrote...
marquiseondore wrote...
Games are interactive. Sims players are still gamers.
Would you consider people who only play Farmville to be "gamers"?
Dave Farmville is a game. It may not be a good one, but it's still a game.
Most people who play it haven't even touched a game in their life aside from it, though. The largest population of Farmville gamers are housewives and young children (some who steal their parent's credit card to buy 3000$+ worth of cash
They have no appreciation of the market or any other game, they are in their own little world of Farmville. I don't call that a gamer because a gamer, in my eyes, is somebody who loves the hobby as a whole and not one or two specific games. A gamer should be able to sit down and name atleast a few genres.
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