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Will DA2's current marketing campaign appeal at all to new female players.

Débuté par tpryan01 , août 23 2010 04:19

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:14

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Money>Customers.

Welcome to capitalism.

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:17

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well according to ESA



"Of game purchasers, 52% are male and 48% are female."

http://www.theesa.co...ESA_EF_2009.pdf



that is pretty much =





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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:18

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Arttis wrote...

The back of the fully armored warrior...so they cant tell its male or female armor...since you know they judge these things.


Actually it's impossible to tell the gender from the armor and the warrior's back isn't turned. He/she is facing you and is wearing a helmet covering their face. You really have no idea what the warrior is based just at looking at him (except that he/she isn't a mage. or at least not a non arcane warrior) and it might be a dwarf or elf for all we know.

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:20

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jln.francisco wrote...

Arttis wrote...

The back of the fully armored warrior...so they cant tell its male or female armor...since you know they judge these things.


Actually it's impossible to tell the gender from the armor and the warrior's back isn't turned. He/she is facing you and is wearing a helmet covering their face. You really have no idea what the warrior is based just at looking at him (except that he/she isn't a mage. or at least not a non arcane warrior) and it might be a dwarf or elf for all we know.

if they do not see boob curved plates it will probably be assumed as male.

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:21

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jln.francisco wrote...

Collider wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

"It's not as if people have to know that they can play as their own gender to want to play a game."
-Collider

"My brother a final fantasy fan refused to play it due to the main character being a female. He said he cant relate to a female."
-Apollo Starflare

Apparently all people are the same now. News to me.


That was never said.

No, but telling me that one person doesn't want to play a game because the protagonist is female does not negate what I said about not everyone having to be able to play as their own gender to want to play a game.

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:21

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Rapidiul wrote...

Money>Customers.
Welcome to capitalism.


WRONG! Actually capitalism is competition based and success is determined by "Dollar Votes". Therefore the companies who cater to the consumer will down right win. The market is flooded with crappy RPGs making DA:O's success that much greater.

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:23

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Collider wrote...
No, but telling me that one person doesn't want to play a game because the protagonist is female does not negate what I said about not everyone having to be able to play as their own gender to want to play a game.


Doesn't stop Kikaimegami from blasting the Cyberdemon back to hell.

/agreeingwithyoubytheway

Modifié par RobotNixon, 23 août 2010 - 05:23 .

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Arttis wrote...

jln.francisco wrote...

Arttis wrote...

The back of the fully armored warrior...so they cant tell its male or female armor...since you know they judge these things.


Actually it's impossible to tell the gender from the armor and the warrior's back isn't turned. He/she is facing you and is wearing a helmet covering their face. You really have no idea what the warrior is based just at looking at him (except that he/she isn't a mage. or at least not a non arcane warrior) and it might be a dwarf or elf for all we know.

if they do not see boob curved plates it will probably be assumed as male.


That however, is an assumption based on their own biases and expectations. Kinda like the Metroid Samus thing.

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:26

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Collider

I agree not everyone always plays their own gender. But the question is how do most people feel about playing as another gender, and because the option is there wouldn't you sell more by advertising it?

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:27

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jln.francisco - If it looks like a male then you haven't really communicated the fact you can play as either gender.

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:29

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tpryan01 wrote...

jln.francisco - If it looks like a male then you haven't really communicated the fact you can play as either gender.


Make the armor pink.

B!tches love pink armor.

*this was an attempt at humor, please don't get your feathers ruffled*

Modifié par RobotNixon, 23 août 2010 - 05:30 .

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:30

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jln.francisco wrote...

Arttis wrote...

jln.francisco wrote...

Arttis wrote...

The back of the fully armored warrior...so they cant tell its male or female armor...since you know they judge these things.


Actually it's impossible to tell the gender from the armor and the warrior's back isn't turned. He/she is facing you and is wearing a helmet covering their face. You really have no idea what the warrior is based just at looking at him (except that he/she isn't a mage. or at least not a non arcane warrior) and it might be a dwarf or elf for all we know.

if they do not see boob curved plates it will probably be assumed as male.


That however, is an assumption based on their own biases and expectations. Kinda like the Metroid Samus thing.

Everyone has a bias and expectations when it comes to games.

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:30

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tpryan01 wrote...

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I agree not everyone always plays their own gender. But the question is how do most people feel about playing as another gender, and because the option is there wouldn't you sell more by advertising it?


I can't say I agree. There more suitables games for people that just want to play a different gender. I can't talk for the girls on the forum, but I'm almost sure most of them don't played Dragon Age just because they could play as a girl.

Just my opinion.

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jln.francisco - If it looks like a male then you haven't really communicated the fact you can play as either gender.


I know. I just happen to like the style both games used in their box art especially Fallout 3. 

How would you get the point across that you can play as either gender across in box art? The split face idea would get real old real quick (not that box art is a shining example of creativity). Maybe something where you see multiple characters but never the main one?

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:32

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BW326 wrote...

Rapidiul wrote...

Money>Customers.
Welcome to capitalism.


WRONG! Actually capitalism is competition based and success is determined by "Dollar Votes". Therefore the companies who cater to the consumer will down right win. The market is flooded with crappy RPGs making DA:O's success that much greater.

Still, they want what is in your pocket. What you give to them is not charity.

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:32

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It has been advertised. Anyone who is interested enough in the game to read the <a href="http://dragonage.bio...racter">FAQ</a> then they will know the answer to that question.

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:33

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html isn't allowed i guess... lol

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:34

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I would beg to differ.



I turned down Red Dead, Arhkam Asylum and Uncharted 2 for that very reason. They looked like amazing games when I saw others play, but I can't get into an RPG where I am forced to play as a male and if I am not enjoying myself why spend the money or the time.

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:35

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BW326 how would they know to go to the website?

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RobotNixon wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

jln.francisco - If it looks like a male then you haven't really communicated the fact you can play as either gender.


Make the armor pink.

B!tches love pink armor.

*this was an attempt at humor, please don't get your feathers ruffled*


Reminds me of a webcomic I saw recently.

http://thesocietypag...807-483x500.gif

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:36

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Rapiddiul,

Half of all game purchasers are female.

tpryan01 wrote...

well according to ESA

"Of game purchasers, 52% are male and 48% are female."
http://www.theesa.co...ESA_EF_2009.pdf

that is pretty much =



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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:37

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tpryan01 wrote...

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I agree not everyone always plays their own gender. But the question is how do most people feel about playing as another gender, and because the option is there wouldn't you sell more by advertising it?

Bioware is advertising it by virtue of saying that the option exists in things like interviews. I gather that they simply want an iconic Hawke, as they did with the Warden in DA. 

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:38

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tpryan01 wrote...

Rapiddiul,

Half of all game purchasers are female.

Money>Customers.



Welcome to capitalism.

I can't really see where did i write female in my post.
Still, That is the reason they aren't and they possibly won't advertise a female Hawke.

Modifié par Rapidiul, 23 août 2010 - 05:38 .

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:39

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So the new question for ladies only:



How did you find out you could play as a girl in DA:O, ME or ME2?

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Posté 23 août 2010 - 05:40

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tpryan01 wrote...

Rapiddiul,

Half of all game purchasers are female.

tpryan01 wrote...

well according to ESA

"Of game purchasers, 52% are male and 48% are female."
http://www.theesa.co...ESA_EF_2009.pdf

that is pretty much =


Does that take into account the amount of mothers purchasing games for their children?
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