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Will DA2's current marketing campaign appeal at all to new female players.


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I agree not everyone always plays their own gender. But the question is how do most people feel about playing as another gender, and because the option is there wouldn't you sell more by advertising it?

Bioware is advertising it by virtue of saying that the option exists in things like interviews. I gather that they simply want an iconic Hawke, as they did with the Warden in DA. 


But that's part of the problem. The iconic figure is almost always male (tough soldier type) and that's always what makes it into the promotional art and ads. The game is portrayed as something it ins't on the most popular medium and that portrayal turns off a considerable portion of potential buyers.

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Rapiddiul,

Half of all game purchasers are female.

tpryan01 wrote...

well according to ESA

"Of game purchasers, 52% are male and 48% are female."
http://www.theesa.co...ESA_EF_2009.pdf

that is pretty much =


I would have to claim that many mothers buy games for their children and not personal use.

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So the new question for ladies only:

How did you find out you could play as a girl in DA:O, ME or ME2?


Because that's how BioWare rolls. B)

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I would beg to differ.

I turned down Red Dead, Arhkam Asylum and Uncharted 2 for that very reason. They looked like amazing games when I saw others play, but I can't get into an RPG where I am forced to play as a male and if I am not enjoying myself why spend the money or the time.


I see your point, then.

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Arttis wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

Rapiddiul,

Half of all game purchasers are female.

tpryan01 wrote...

well according to ESA

"Of game purchasers, 52% are male and 48% are female."
http://www.theesa.co...ESA_EF_2009.pdf

that is pretty much =


I would have to claim that many mothers buy games for their children and not personal use.

Yes. Researches are inaccurate.

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... and fathers, brothers, grandfathers and uncles.



or are you implying only mothers buy presents for their children



either way we have this quote as well



"WOMEN age 18 or older represent a significantly

greater portion of the game-playing population (34%)

than boys age 17 or younger (18%)."





boys 17 and under being the group those mothers would presumably be buying for.


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jln.francisco wrote...

Collider wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

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I agree not everyone always plays their own gender. But the question is how do most people feel about playing as another gender, and because the option is there wouldn't you sell more by advertising it?

Bioware is advertising it by virtue of saying that the option exists in things like interviews. I gather that they simply want an iconic Hawke, as they did with the Warden in DA. 


But that's part of the problem. The iconic figure is almost always male (tough soldier type) and that's always what makes it into the promotional art and ads. The game is portrayed as something it ins't on the most popular medium and that portrayal turns off a considerable portion of potential buyers.

Please tell me how Dragon Age 2 is being portrayed as something it isn't because male Hawke is being advertised.

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So the new question for ladies only:

How did you find out you could play as a girl in DA:O, ME or ME2?


Because that's how BioWare rolls. B)


I know I'm not supposed to answer this question but,

I didn't even know who BioWare was before buying this game for the PC. And that was after clocking in like 50+ hours on my buddy's 360 version. Before that I hadn't even seen a Dragon Age trailer or what not. When I did see one I was like "What does this have to do with the game?"

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Saibh,



How did you know that was how Bioware rolls?

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... and fathers, brothers, grandfathers and uncles.

or are you implying only mothers buy presents for their children

either way we have this quote as well

"WOMEN age 18 or older represent a significantly
greater portion of the game-playing population (34%)
than boys age 17 or younger (18%)."


boys 17 and under being the group those mothers would presumably be buying for.

Again, reserches are inaccurate. It impossible to know the total human population. It is impossible to know how many people die from cancer, it is impossible to know where is the major portion of gamers(age-wise).

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Does that take into account the amount of mothers purchasing games for their children?


*THE VOID*

Rapidiul wrote...

Arttis wrote...

I would have to claim that many mothers buy games for their children and not personal use.

Yes. Researches are inaccurate.


That cut me deep brah. :(

Modifié par RobotNixon, 23 août 2010 - 05:46 .


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tpryan01 wrote...

So the new question for ladies only:

How did you find out you could play as a girl in DA:O, ME or ME2?


For DA:O I can't remember how I came across the adverts for it but I did come across it before it was out and I looked up the FAQ on their website and I'm sure that is where I found out you could play a female.

As for the ME series, I never went near it as I thought you could only play a male character and as sad as it sounds I was on these forums for a while until I heard the term fem shep used and had that duh moment and looked the game up. I still don't have the game but I'm looking into it now I know I can play a female.

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tpryan01 wrote...

... and fathers, brothers, grandfathers and uncles.

or are you implying only mothers buy presents for their children

either way we have this quote as well

"WOMEN age 18 or older represent a significantly
greater portion of the game-playing population (34%)
than boys age 17 or younger (18%)."


boys 17 and under being the group those mothers would presumably be buying for.

In another thread they brought a ton of statistics and such saying 17 and under mostly play these kinds of games.
*a thread that wanted to get rid fo censorship which talked about nudity*

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jln.francisco wrote...

Collider wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

Collider
I agree not everyone always plays their own gender. But the question is how do most people feel about playing as another gender, and because the option is there wouldn't you sell more by advertising it?

Bioware is advertising it by virtue of saying that the option exists in things like interviews. I gather that they simply want an iconic Hawke, as they did with the Warden in DA. 


But that's part of the problem. The iconic figure is almost always male (tough soldier type) and that's always what makes it into the promotional art and ads. The game is portrayed as something it ins't on the most popular medium and that portrayal turns off a considerable portion of potential buyers.

Please tell me how Dragon Age 2 is being portrayed as something it isn't because male Hawke is being advertised.


Have you seen the trailer? What do you think it would look like to someone who's never even heard of Dragon Age?

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Collider wrote...

jln.francisco wrote...

Collider wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

Collider
I agree not everyone always plays their own gender. But the question is how do most people feel about playing as another gender, and because the option is there wouldn't you sell more by advertising it?

Bioware is advertising it by virtue of saying that the option exists in things like interviews. I gather that they simply want an iconic Hawke, as they did with the Warden in DA. 


But that's part of the problem. The iconic figure is almost always male (tough soldier type) and that's always what makes it into the promotional art and ads. The game is portrayed as something it ins't on the most popular medium and that portrayal turns off a considerable portion of potential buyers.

Please tell me how Dragon Age 2 is being portrayed as something it isn't because male Hawke is being advertised.


Have you seen the trailer? What do you think it would look like to someone who's never even heard of Dragon Age?

Also, do you think people would have the same reaction if it was Female Hawke in the trailer?

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tpryan01 wrote...

... and fathers, brothers, grandfathers and uncles.

or are you implying only mothers buy presents for their children

either way we have this quote as well

"WOMEN age 18 or older represent a significantly
greater portion of the game-playing population (34%)
than boys age 17 or younger (18%)."


boys 17 and under being the group those mothers would presumably be buying for.

Again, reserches are inaccurate. It impossible to know the total human population. It is impossible to know how many people die from cancer, it is impossible to know where is the major portion of gamers(age-wise).


You do not need the WHOLE HUMAN POPULATION to make an accurate assesment of whatever information you're looking for. Please go research statistics.

Modifié par jln.francisco, 23 août 2010 - 05:49 .


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jln.francisco wrote...

Collider wrote...

jln.francisco wrote...

Collider wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

Collider
I agree not everyone always plays their own gender. But the question is how do most people feel about playing as another gender, and because the option is there wouldn't you sell more by advertising it?

Bioware is advertising it by virtue of saying that the option exists in things like interviews. I gather that they simply want an iconic Hawke, as they did with the Warden in DA. 


But that's part of the problem. The iconic figure is almost always male (tough soldier type) and that's always what makes it into the promotional art and ads. The game is portrayed as something it ins't on the most popular medium and that portrayal turns off a considerable portion of potential buyers.

Please tell me how Dragon Age 2 is being portrayed as something it isn't because male Hawke is being advertised.


Have you seen the trailer? What do you think it would look like to someone who's never even heard of Dragon Age?

I have. Advertising Male Hawke does not portray the game as something it isn't. The player can choose to be male. Unless you meant the actual combat itself exhibited in the trailer, which is another matter entirely.

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jln.francisco wrote...

Collider wrote...

jln.francisco wrote...

Collider wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

Collider
I agree not everyone always plays their own gender. But the question is how do most people feel about playing as another gender, and because the option is there wouldn't you sell more by advertising it?

Bioware is advertising it by virtue of saying that the option exists in things like interviews. I gather that they simply want an iconic Hawke, as they did with the Warden in DA. 


But that's part of the problem. The iconic figure is almost always male (tough soldier type) and that's always what makes it into the promotional art and ads. The game is portrayed as something it ins't on the most popular medium and that portrayal turns off a considerable portion of potential buyers.

Please tell me how Dragon Age 2 is being portrayed as something it isn't because male Hawke is being advertised.


Have you seen the trailer? What do you think it would look like to someone who's never even heard of Dragon Age?


I'd wager that if they've never heard of it before this point, they've probably never heard of games like it,
and they probably won't purchase it.

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Check out this World of Warcraft Statistic

"females ages 25 to 54, accounting for approximately 29 percent of total personal computer game players. Males ages 25 to 54 account for the next largest block at roughly 20 percent of all personal computer game players"

Source: http://blog.nielsen....040609_fnl1.pdf


I would say WoW has a similar demographic

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jln.francisco wrote...

Rapidiul wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

... and fathers, brothers, grandfathers and uncles.

or are you implying only mothers buy presents for their children

either way we have this quote as well

"WOMEN age 18 or older represent a significantly
greater portion of the game-playing population (34%)
than boys age 17 or younger (18%)."


boys 17 and under being the group those mothers would presumably be buying for.

Again, reserches are inaccurate. It impossible to know the total human population. It is impossible to know how many people die from cancer, it is impossible to know where is the major portion of gamers(age-wise).


You know nothing statistics. You do not need the WHOLE HUMAN POPULATION to make an accurate assesment of whatever information you're looking for. Please go research stats or stop talking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example

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jln.francisco wrote...

Saibh wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

So the new question for ladies only:

How did you find out you could play as a girl in DA:O, ME or ME2?


Because that's how BioWare rolls. B)


I know I'm not supposed to answer this question but,

I didn't even know who BioWare was before buying this game for the PC. And that was after clocking in like 50+ hours on my buddy's 360 version. Before that I hadn't even seen a Dragon Age trailer or what not. When I did see one I was like "What does this have to do with the game?"


I can say the same. I didn't know who BioWare was, so I started a research and here I am.

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Have you seen the trailer? What do you think it would look like to someone who's never even heard of Dragon Age?


I'd wager that if they've never heard of it before this point, they've probably never heard of games like it,
and they probably won't purchase it.


So what would be the point of ads?

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tpryan01 wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

Check out this World of Warcraft Statistic

"females ages 25 to 54, accounting for approximately 29 percent of total personal computer game players. Males ages 25 to 54 account for the next largest block at roughly 20 percent of all personal computer game players"

Source: http://blog.nielsen....040609_fnl1.pdf


I would say WoW has a similar demographic

Do they get that info from accounts and *put birth date here*....I have lied on so many of those things its ridiculous! I wanna play a game not give you my personal info!

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jln.francisco wrote...

RobotNixon wrote...

jln.francisco wrote...
Have you seen the trailer? What do you think it would look like to someone who's never even heard of Dragon Age?


I'd wager that if they've never heard of it before this point, they've probably never heard of games like it,
and they probably won't purchase it.


So what would be the point of ads?

There is a sizable group of people who have played Dragon Age and other Bioware games.

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jln.francisco wrote...

RobotNixon wrote...

jln.francisco wrote...
Have you seen the trailer? What do you think it would look like to someone who's never even heard of Dragon Age?


I'd wager that if they've never heard of it before this point, they've probably never heard of games like it,
and they probably won't purchase it.


So what would be the point of ads?


On TV? To waste money.