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[addiction21]

Dave of Canada wrote...

DiosMios wrote...

But if male Samus died and then a female replaced him, doesn't that mean the female was the protagonist in most of the Metroid games? Err, I'm going to stick with my robot theory; less paradoxes.

Yet that doesn't make you the original star. If Laura died and a guy called Steve took her place for another 50 or so years, the Tomb Raider series would still be known for Laura.

She had a name? I just called her jiggles...  (I will apologize now and yes I allready know I am going to hell)

[Arrtis]

They should just get rid fo the female option to make these women ahve a valid arguement imo.

[marquiseondore]

Arrtis wrote...

They should just get rid fo the female option to make these women ahve a valid arguement imo.

Or we can just go back to 8 bit graphics so you can't tell the difference anyway.

[Arrtis]

marquiseondore wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

They should just get rid fo the female option to make these women ahve a valid arguement imo.

Or we can just go back to 8 bit graphics so you can't tell the difference anyway.

you could tell...you could defintely tell....

[Dave of Canada]

marquiseondore wrote...

Or we can just go back to 8 bit graphics so you can't tell the difference anyway.

I've fallen in love with 8-bit graphics again after playing Mega Man 9 and 10 extensively.

[addiction21]

marquiseondore wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

They should just get rid fo the female option to make these women ahve a valid arguement imo.

Or we can just go back to 8 bit graphics so you can't tell the difference anyway.

But then how did anyone know Samus was a girl?



Nevermind it seems pretty clear to me.

Modifié par addiction21, 25 août 2010 - 06:24 .

[marquiseondore]

Arrtis wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

They should just get rid fo the female option to make these women ahve a valid arguement imo.

Or we can just go back to 8 bit graphics so you can't tell the difference anyway.

you could tell...you could defintely tell....

Was it the extra peach block.

[Meyne]

addiction21 wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

They should just get rid fo the female option to make these women ahve a valid arguement imo.

Or we can just go back to 8 bit graphics so you can't tell the difference anyway.

But then how did anyone know Samus was a girl?

Edit: oops, you figured it out

Modifié par Meyne, 25 août 2010 - 06:26 .

[marquiseondore]

Dave of Canada wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

Or we can just go back to 8 bit graphics so you can't tell the difference anyway.

I've fallen in love with 8-bit graphics again after playing Mega Man 9 and 10 extensively.

I'm glad they went back to the games roots.  Mega Man X Command Mission felt wrong.

[Dave of Canada]

marquiseondore wrote...

I'm glad they went back to the games roots.  Mega Man X Command Mission felt wrong.

I think the voices killed it for me. I don't really care for hearing X yell out whenever I jumped or shot a charged shot.

[Arrtis]

We are almost at 1k we can not let it end here!

Women should have elss advertising than males as they are not the majority.

Anyone disagree?

[Nerys]

tpryan01 wrote...

So the new question for ladies only:

How did you find out you could play as a girl in DA:O, ME or ME2?

I was looking online for potential games I might be interested in and stumbled across the fact that DAO gave the option to be female. I doubt I would have given it a second glance there had not been the option to play as female. I play as male sometimes, but to me the important thing is that I have the choice. I can't tell you how many games I have passed on because the only choice of avatar was some gorilla of a guy (invariably a marine) with inane lines. If game designers don't bother to give me a choice, I don't bother to give them a try anymore. ~Okay okay, I do play the Assassin's Creed series, and they don't give a choice to be female. It is an anomaly though. So,maybe it would be more fair to say that I look at games first for how well put together they are, then, the ability to choose my sex. It seems to me that lately the two have been going hand in hand.
That said, I really respect BW for giving us ladies so many great games  

on a side note: If Morrigan was the "face" of DAO, why can't Garrett Hawke be the "face" of DA2? After all the guys deserve equal face time. just sayin...

Modifié par Nerys, 25 août 2010 - 08:42 .

[Dave of Canada]

Nerys wrote...

on a side note: If Morrigan was the "face" of DAO, why can't Garrett Hawke be the "face" of DA2? After all the guys deserve equal face time. just sayin...

Morrigan was more of representation of the world as a whole, though. Hawke is just... Hawke.

[Arrtis]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Nerys wrote...

on a side note: If Morrigan was the "face" of DAO, why can't Garrett Hawke be the "face" of DA2? After all the guys deserve equal face time. just sayin...

Morrigan was more of representation of the world as a whole, though. Hawke is just... Hawke.

Hawke is yurk hawke and mike hawke.We all can see our hawkes.

[namedforthemoon]

Arrtis wrote...

We are almost at 1k we can not let it end here!
Women should have elss advertising than males as they are not the majority.
Anyone disagree?

You say stuff like this just to ****** people off, right? You're one of those people who just likes to stir up the sh!t. For attention. Because even negative attention is still attention.

I get it. Your mommy loved your sister more than she loved you. It all makes sense, now.

[Arrtis]

namedforthemoon wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

We are almost at 1k we can not let it end here!
Women should have elss advertising than males as they are not the majority.
Anyone disagree?

You say stuff like this just to ****** people off, right? You're one of those people who just likes to stir up the sh!t. For attention. Because even negative attention is still attention.

I get it. Your mommy loved your sister more than she loved you. It all makes sense, now.

OMG she guessed right.I have a sister!She must  be a psychic.
Back on topic women are the minority for this game correcT?
It makes sense to spend less money on targetting them.

Modifié par Arrtis, 25 août 2010 - 07:56 .

[tpryan01]

marquiseondore wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

Well then, it would be nice for it to be mentioned on the back of the box.* Also see my previous post.

It's mentioned at the back of the box that you have full character customization.

No, it doesn't.

Here's what it says on mine.

"Full Character Customization
Sculpt your hero in your own image or fantasy"

My PS3 copy doesn't not mention it.

Nor does my PC DVD copy

[Mecha Tengu]

Arrtis wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

We are almost at 1k we can not let it end here!
Women should have elss advertising than males as they are not the majority.
Anyone disagree?

You say stuff like this just to ****** people off, right? You're one of those people who just likes to stir up the sh!t. For attention. Because even negative attention is still attention.

I get it. Your mommy loved your sister more than she loved you. It all makes sense, now.

OMG she guessed right.I have a sister!She must  be a psychic.
Back on topic women are the minority for this game correcT?
It makes sense to spend less money on targetting them.

 No matter what happens, DONT UPSET e girls! there will always be a tribe of white knights to defend them.

Modifié par Mecha Tengu, 25 août 2010 - 12:30 .

[Mecha Tengu]

Dave of Canada wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

Well then, it would be nice for it to be mentioned on the back of the box.* Also see my previous post.

It's mentioned at the back of the box that you have full character customization.

No, it doesn't.

Here's what it says on mine.

"Full Character Customization
Sculpt your hero in your own image or fantasy"

can I adjust cup size?

[wwwwowwww]

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

We are almost at 1k we can not let it end here!
Women should have elss advertising than males as they are not the majority.
Anyone disagree?

You say stuff like this just to ****** people off, right? You're one of those people who just likes to stir up the sh!t. For attention. Because even negative attention is still attention.

I get it. Your mommy loved your sister more than she loved you. It all makes sense, now.

OMG she guessed right.I have a sister!She must  be a psychic.
Back on topic women are the minority for this game correcT?
It makes sense to spend less money on targetting them.

dont say things like that to them. No matter what happens, there will always be a tribe of white knights to defend internet women despite your arguments of logic and sense. They also gather in packs to start personally attacking you

In DA the Knights are more a shade of Gray

[catabuca]

tpryan01 wrote...

One problem I had with the marketing of DAO and ME and ME2 was that until I was told by a male (months after the game came out) that I could play as a female I had no idea that it was possible.

I understand that it is mentioned in articles about the game, but in all marketing materials the featured character is male as it has been in ME, ME2, DA:O and DA:O-A.

To be clear I really don't care what the specifics of what the female hawke will look like.

I am only concerned in how more NEW female gamers can be brought into the game.

This is a thread about marketing, not accusations of offense.

Have you tried showing any of the DA2 marketing materials to female gamers not familiar with DA:O?

What was their response?

I haven't read the whole thread, and I'm 99% positive someone has said this already, but to add my voice to the crowd - I'm female, and I like the same things men do. I also like the same things women do. I'm not entirely sure stating there should be different marketing to appeal to male and female players is at all helpful, and only maintains the illusion that women like nothing but pink fluffy bunnies and flowers, and men like nothing but cars and violent sports. If I only played games that had a female lead I'd have a far smaller gaming library than I currently do. As it is, I can think of only one occasion where I opted to play as a female character first in a game that offered me the choice (Fable II) - every other game where that choice is present I've played as a male character first, DAO included. In fact, in ME my canon Shep is male.

So a little less with the sweeping generalisations.

[Mecha Tengu]

catabuca wrote...



So a little less with the sweeping generalisations.

women like shoes and lipstick

men like cars and first person shooters

stuff like dat?

[tpryan01]

catabuca wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

One problem I had with the marketing of DAO and ME and ME2 was that until I was told by a male (months after the game came out) that I could play as a female I had no idea that it was possible.

I understand that it is mentioned in articles about the game, but in all marketing materials the featured character is male as it has been in ME, ME2, DA:O and DA:O-A.

To be clear I really don't care what the specifics of what the female hawke will look like.

I am only concerned in how more NEW female gamers can be brought into the game.

This is a thread about marketing, not accusations of offense.

Have you tried showing any of the DA2 marketing materials to female gamers not familiar with DA:O?

What was their response?

I haven't read the whole thread, and I'm 99% positive someone has said this already, but to add my voice to the crowd - I'm female, and I like the same things men do. I also like the same things women do. I'm not entirely sure stating there should be different marketing to appeal to male and female players is at all helpful, and only maintains the illusion that women like nothing but pink fluffy bunnies and flowers, and men like nothing but cars and violent sports. If I only played games that had a female lead I'd have a far smaller gaming library than I currently do. As it is, I can think of only one occasion where I opted to play as a female character first in a game that offered me the choice (Fable II) - every other game where that choice is present I've played as a male character first, DAO included. In fact, in ME my canon Shep is male.

So a little less with the sweeping generalisations.

wait like assuming we are making generalizations without reading the thread.

We've been specific several times on this one



If you like to play as a man that is great, but for those who would like to play as a woman it is hard from the current marketing campaign for new players  to figure out that you can play as a female character. 

I support those who like to gender bend, however there are studies that indicate this is most likely not the norm when given the option to play as either sex.

http://www.nickyee.c...genderbend.html





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[Druss99]

I have a question OP. If YOU already know you can play a female and are going to buy the game then why do you care if other women know or not? I'm probably going to buy it but I don't give a damn if anyone else buys it or not. If they do then all the better for bioware but it doesn't make any difference to me at all.

[marquiseondore]

Druss99 wrote...

I have a question OP. If YOU already know you can play a female and are going to buy the game then why do you care if other women know or not? I'm probably going to buy it but I don't give a damn if anyone else buys it or not. If they do then all the better for bioware but it doesn't make any difference to me at all.

catabuca wrote...
I haven't read the whole thread, and I'm 99% positive someone has said
this already, but to add my voice to the crowd - I'm female, and I like
the same things men do. I also like the same things women do. I'm not
entirely sure stating there should be different marketing to appeal to
male and female players is at all helpful, and only maintains the
illusion that women like nothing but pink fluffy bunnies and flowers,
and men like nothing but cars and violent sports. If I only played
games that had a female lead I'd have a far smaller gaming library than
I currently do. As it is, I can think of only one occasion where
I opted to play as a female character first in a game that offered me
the choice (Fable II) - every other game where that choice is present
I've played as a male character first, DAO included. In fact, in ME my
canon Shep is male.

So a little less with the sweeping generalisations.

Second verse same as the first....

*Yes we know. But we are trying to discuss marketing to new players...specificaly females.
*The ability of playing as a female character in game is an incentive.  It provides additional gameplay since the experience is diffierent.
*Yes, you call always research the game online, but if you are browsing in a store there is no information regarding full character customization on the back (or front) of the DAO box.
*Yes we know Lady Hawke will be revealed but we do not know if there will be any press coverage.