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[AngryFrozenWater]

By now the franchise is known. So, it doesn't help to use the same marketing goals to attract a larger audience. To attract that larger audience you have to have something that appeals to that new market. There is no such thing as common denominator to attract everybody. So, I guess it would be safe to expand it. Has the game better or suburb graphics? If so advertise *that* on gaming hardware sites. Has the game great AI and shooter mechanisms? If so advertise *that* on sites which attract action game fans. Has the game female PC support then advertise *that* on sites which are known to attract female gamers. On general purpose sites (like Steam or IGN) switch the banner from time to time so that all those great features can be highlighted. I've more great ideas. Contact me if you want to hire me.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 31 août 2010 - 03:38 .

[Arrtis]

You should really post statistics of a RPG game that is not online and see if it shows quite a lot of women.

[tpryan01]

javierabegazo wrote...

tez19,
You've thoroughly made your point, but generally when you consider a thread to "be pointless", that's a good indicator that you shouldn't post in that thread anymore. Let people have whatever discussions they choose to, no one is obligated to post in every thread, or participate in every hot debate

Thank you

[Kiely]

The difference between the number of potential users of your product and the number actually using it is your potential growth. Companies like growth, growth is good. So for a gaming company to turn-off or simply ignore the majority of the population would be unwise. While some games are geared more to one demographic or the other. RPGs seem to be one genre that appeals to both males and females. There are definitely more women playing RPGs now then when I first started playing video games and that (still largely untapped) market equals huge potential for gaming companies. They ignore 51% of the population at their own risk.



But having said that I do believe Bioware does a pretty good job of appealing to the female market. DA itself and the number of women posting on this site are both evidence of that. If those women are simply requesting Bioware to tone down the "eye-candy for 13 year old boys" quality of some character models to make the game more appealing to women then Bioware may want to listen to them.

[tez19]

tpryan01 wrote...

Mehow_pwn wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

According to Nielson 

http://www.shacknews...11738#img133125

http://blog.nielsen....040609_fnl1.pdf

Wow Players 25-54 in 2008
female 428,621
Male 675,731

Further claims about female gamers without facts or studies to back them up will be considered hate speak and slander.

Both are explicitly against forum rules.

Please keep the conversation intelligent and informed and do not give in to those who are trying to turn this into a gender war. 

This facts are random.. I am talking about WoW as a whole and it had more players then that at a time even..

That means (EU, US , ASIA and all the private server or whatever)

then please pack up your claim with a study or press release and do not make unbacked up summary claims...

Otherwise again it will be considered slander

did you hear that mehow_pwn mate?  SLANDER!! you could go to jail

[Rogue Unit]

tpryan01 wrote...

Mehow_pwn wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

According to Nielson 

http://www.shacknews...11738#img133125

http://blog.nielsen....040609_fnl1.pdf

Wow Players 25-54 in 2008
female 428,621
Male 675,731

Further claims about female gamers without facts or studies to back them up will be considered hate speak and slander.

Both are explicitly against forum rules.

Please keep the conversation intelligent and informed and do not give in to those who are trying to turn this into a gender war. 

This facts are random.. I am talking about WoW as a whole and it had more players then that at a time even..

That means (EU, US , ASIA and all the private server or whatever)

then please pack up your claim with a study or press release and do not make unbacked up summary claims...

Otherwise again it will be considered slander

Wouldn't it libel and not slander?

[AngryFrozenWater]

My poll is nowhere near a good measurement, but it shows interest in FemShep. And it shows that FemShep is not only played by female gamers. So, measuring how many male players there are doesn't make sense at all. It's about if gamers are interested in playing FemShep. Or in the case of DA2 Lady Hawke (or whatever her name is).

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 31 août 2010 - 03:44 .

[tpryan01]

Kiely wrote...

But having said that I do believe Bioware does a pretty good job of appealing to the female market. DA itself and the number of women posting on this site are both evidence of that. If those women are simply requesting Bioware to tone down the "eye-candy for 13 year old boys" quality of some character models to make the game more appealing to women then Bioware may want to listen to them.

agreed but this thread is not about the game. Just the advertising. The game itself and it's ME siblings are highly appealing to women. That is why I think there could be a high ROI if marketed properly 

[tez19]

Kiely wrote...

The difference between the number of potential users of your product and the number actually using it is your potential growth. Companies like growth, growth is good. So for a gaming company to turn-off or simply ignore the majority of the population would be unwise. While some games are geared more to one demographic or the other. RPGs seem to be one genre that appeals to both males and females. There are definitely more women playing RPGs now then when I first started playing video games and that (still largely untapped) market equals huge potential for gaming companies. They ignore 51% of the population at their own risk.

But having said that I do believe Bioware does a pretty good job of appealing to the female market. DA itself and the number of women posting on this site are both evidence of that. If those women are simply requesting Bioware to tone down the "eye-candy for 13 year old boys" quality of some character models to make the game more appealing to women then Bioware may want to listen to them.

if people want facts in this thread then i think you will do well to look up the population of the human race. men are very slightly the larger sex of the population.

[Mehow_pwn]

tez19 wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

Mehow_pwn wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

According to Nielson 

http://www.shacknews...11738#img133125

http://blog.nielsen....040609_fnl1.pdf

Wow Players 25-54 in 2008
female 428,621
Male 675,731

Further claims about female gamers without facts or studies to back them up will be considered hate speak and slander.

Both are explicitly against forum rules.

Please keep the conversation intelligent and informed and do not give in to those who are trying to turn this into a gender war. 

This facts are random.. I am talking about WoW as a whole and it had more players then that at a time even..

That means (EU, US , ASIA and all the private server or whatever)

then please pack up your claim with a study or press release and do not make unbacked up summary claims...

Otherwise again it will be considered slander

did you hear that mehow_pwn mate?  SLANDER!! you could go to jail

Oh noes , I just remembers something... that does numbers are baset on charcters.. and we all know that 60%(  Cant really say execly that I was 60% but it defeintly is around that )  of women charcters in WoW were men and were happy about it lol

Modifié par Mehow_pwn, 31 août 2010 - 03:46 .

[Rogue Unit]

tpryan01 wrote...

Kiely wrote...

But having said that I do believe Bioware does a pretty good job of appealing to the female market. DA itself and the number of women posting on this site are both evidence of that. If those women are simply requesting Bioware to tone down the "eye-candy for 13 year old boys" quality of some character models to make the game more appealing to women then Bioware may want to listen to them.

agreed but this thread is not about the game. Just the advertising. The game itself and it's ME siblings are highly appealing to women. That is why I think there could be a high ROI if marketed properly 

And what would be considered marketing properly in your opinion? Just curious.

[tpryan01]

Rogue Unit wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

Mehow_pwn wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

According to Nielson 

http://www.shacknews...11738#img133125

http://blog.nielsen....040609_fnl1.pdf

Wow Players 25-54 in 2008
female 428,621
Male 675,731

Further claims about female gamers without facts or studies to back them up will be considered hate speak and slander.

Both are explicitly against forum rules.

Please keep the conversation intelligent and informed and do not give in to those who are trying to turn this into a gender war. 

This facts are random.. I am talking about WoW as a whole and it had more players then that at a time even..

That means (EU, US , ASIA and all the private server or whatever)

then please pack up your claim with a study or press release and do not make unbacked up summary claims...

Otherwise again it will be considered slander

Wouldn't it libel and not slander?

Yes but they use slander in the site rules so I used that

http://social.biowar...page/site-rules
"No slander. Insults, language, belittling of others or anything else deemed offense will be deleted without warning if considered unacceptable by an official Moderator or member of BioWare/Electronic Arts staff. Content that is insulting to anyone based on gender, lifestyle, religion, ethic group, race etc. is unacceptable and will be deleted without warning. A person or persons found to repeatedly slander others may be banned from these forums at the discretion of the staff."

Modifié par tpryan01, 31 août 2010 - 03:47 .

[Terastar]

When I first seen DAO advertised I knew that I wanted to play it. I did not care if the character was male or female I wanted to play the game. I am a female and I was glad to see that the warden could be a female but I would have played as a male if I had to in order to play the game. Same in the Mass Effect game ad the same in Baulders gate game I wanted to play the game first gender second. I have been really thrilled with all of the games so far. Keep up the good work. I will ask to have Alistair and Kaiden LI back in future games.

[TheMufflon]

tpryan01 wrote...

Further claims about female gamers without facts or studies to back them up will be considered hate speak and slander.

That's absurd. Making incorrect claims and/or deliberately misleading statements is neither slander nor hate-speech. You might wish to consult a dictionary.

[Mehow_pwn]

You know what's the funnist If they lock this thread the enitre women comunitty will go rage.. but when they lock the people that compained about such threads nobody whined.. This is execly what is unfair

[tpryan01]

TheMufflon wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

Further claims about female gamers without facts or studies to back them up will be considered hate speak and slander.

That's absurd. Making incorrect claims and/or deliberately misleading statements is neither slander nor hate-speech. You might wish to consult a dictionary.

Slander: a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report
http://dictionary.re.../browse/slander

"No slander. Insults, language, belittling of others or anything else deemed offense will be deleted without warning if considered unacceptable by an official Moderator or member of BioWare/Electronic Arts staff. Content that is insulting to anyone based on gender, lifestyle, religion, ethic group, race etc. is unacceptable and will be deleted without warning. A person or persons found to repeatedly slander others may be banned from these forums at the discretion of the staff." - Site Rules


also 
"Hate speech is, outside the law, any communication which disparages a person or a group on the basis of some characteristic such as race or sexual orientation.[1][2] In law, hate speech is any speech, gesture or conduct, writing, or display which is forbidden because it may incite violence or prejudicial action against or by a protected individual or group, or because it disparages or intimidates a protected individual or group. The law may identify a protected individual or a protected group by race, gender, ethnicity, nationality, religion, sexual orientation, or other characteristic.[3] In some countries, a victim of hate speech may seek redress under civil law, criminal law, or both." 

~Wikipedia

Modifié par tpryan01, 31 août 2010 - 03:52 .

[tez19]

TheMufflon wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

Further claims about female gamers without facts or studies to back them up will be considered hate speak and slander.

That's absurd. Making incorrect claims and/or deliberately misleading statements is neither slander nor hate-speech. You might wish to consult a dictionary.

as this thread continues i am beginning to see she is a bit of a lunatic with a fetish for innaccurate statistics, and bends the words to fit her arguement.
ignore her and just enjoy the show.

[tez19]

tpryan01 wrote...

TheMufflon wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

Further claims about female gamers without facts or studies to back them up will be considered hate speak and slander.

That's absurd. Making incorrect claims and/or deliberately misleading statements is neither slander nor hate-speech. You might wish to consult a dictionary.

Slander: a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report
http://dictionary.re.../browse/slander

"No slander. Insults, language, belittling of others or anything else deemed offense will be deleted without warning if considered unacceptable by an official Moderator or member of BioWare/Electronic Arts staff. Content that is insulting to anyone based on gender, lifestyle, religion, ethic group, race etc. is unacceptable and will be deleted without warning. A person or persons found to repeatedly slander others may be banned from these forums at the discretion of the staff." - Site Rules


also 
"Hate speech is, outside the law, any communication which disparages a person or a group on the basis of some characteristic such as race or sexual orientation.[1][2] In law, hate speech is any speech, gesture or conduct, writing, or display which is forbidden because it may incite violence or prejudicial action against or by a protected individual or group, or because it disparages or intimidates a protected individual or group. The law may identify a protected individual or a protected group by race, gender, ethnicity, nationality, religion, sexual orientation, or other characteristic.[3] In some countries, a victim of hate speech may seek redress under civil law, criminal law, or both." 

~Wikipedia

wikipedia LOLZ.
do you really go on google and search for statistics and dictionary definitions and the such when someone says something in this thread?
wow that is a new level of a sad person. SAD FACE

[tpryan01]

tez19 wrote...

TheMufflon wrote...

tpryan01 wrote...

Further claims about female gamers without facts or studies to back them up will be considered hate speak and slander.

That's absurd. Making incorrect claims and/or deliberately misleading statements is neither slander nor hate-speech. You might wish to consult a dictionary.

as this thread continues i am beginning to see she is a bit of a lunatic with a fetish for innaccurate statistics, and bends the words to fit her arguement.
ignore her and just enjoy the show.

"No slander. Insults, language, belittling of others or anything else deemed offense will be deleted without warning if considered unacceptable by an official Moderator or member of BioWare/Electronic Arts staff. Content that is insulting to anyone based on gender, lifestyle, religion, ethic group, race etc. is unacceptable and will be deleted without warning. A person or persons found to repeatedly slander others may be banned from these forums at the discretion of the staff.

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Stay on-topic. There will be some leniency on this, and we don't mind if you bring in new ideas or new ways of looking at a topic or idea, but stay focused. If you think it's a good enough topic, start a new thread about it. This also prevents losing a good idea in a thread about another topic. Threads that wander off-topic will be closed and/or trimmed or moved to its appropriate forum.
"
http://social.biowar...page/site-rules

please stop trying to lock out thread