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Will DA2's current marketing campaign appeal at all to new female players.


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tpryan01 wrote...

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Yes, I am aware of the forum rules. None of them prevent me from making baseless, or even completely made up, statements. About female gamers or otherwise.

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Please kindly tone down the rhetoric in here, and stop the insults altogether.



If you have issues with another poster, PM Victor. If you wish to discuss definitions and things that don't relate to DA2 specifically, go to Off Topic. If this thread goes any further down this line, we'll simply close it down-- and those who are being intentionally disruptive will be banned.



Your opinions are not such precious little gems that you can fling them at people and pretend it's not poop, okay? ;)

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Women getting to voice complaints = ok

Men voicing complaints = not ok

is this what I am hearing has happened?

A problem with new players is they are more likely to not like the game....may misunderstand it and say bad/untrue things about it....Of course I have no statistics *i personally am very wary of statistics*

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i'm pretty sure there is something in the forum rules about spamming too? is that not what you are doing tpryan01?

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actually I want to prove you wrong tpryan01

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You claim that no 8-25 person never played WoW? ... You see thats where your totally wrong I was 14 myself when WoW came out so this fact Is totaly bull**** nice try tho

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Arrtis wrote...

Women getting to voice complaints = ok
Men voicing complaints = not ok
is this what I am hearing has happened?
A problem with new players is they are more likely to not like the game....may misunderstand it and say bad/untrue things about it....Of course I have no statistics *i personally am very wary of statistics*

get used to it mate, its the age old minority gets to complain but the majority has to shutup bend over and take it good and proper.

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Mehow_pwn wrote...

actually I want to prove you wrong tpryan01

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You claim that no 8-25 person never played WoW? ... You see thats where your totally wrong I was 14 myself when WoW came out so this fact Is totaly bull**** nice try tho

dont bother arguing with her mate, she completely twists ''statistics'' she has found to back up her arguement, in the very first page of this thread she twisted a stat about being more female gamers then male AND EVEN A MOD CHANGED HER POST to show she had twisted the statement to fit her arguement. go check it out its on the first page of this thread.

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tez19 wrote...

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The difference between the number of potential users of your product and the number actually using it is your potential growth. Companies like growth, growth is good. So for a gaming company to turn-off or simply ignore the majority of the population would be unwise. While some games are geared more to one demographic or the other. RPGs seem to be one genre that appeals to both males and females. There are definitely more women playing RPGs now then when I first started playing video games and that (still largely untapped) market equals huge potential for gaming companies. They ignore 51% of the population at their own risk.

But having said that I do believe Bioware does a pretty good job of appealing to the female market. DA itself and the number of women posting on this site are both evidence of that. If those women are simply requesting Bioware to tone down the "eye-candy for 13 year old boys" quality of some character models to make the game more appealing to women then Bioware may want to listen to them.


if people want facts in this thread then i think you will do well to look up the population of the human race. men are very slightly the larger sex of the population.


Sorry for giving the percentage in my country.

Please forgive my ~1% error and continue to detract from the conversation at your leisure.

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Arrtis wrote...

Women getting to voice complaints = ok
Men voicing complaints = not ok
is this what I am hearing has happened?
A problem with new players is they are more likely to not like the game....may misunderstand it and say bad/untrue things about it....Of course I have no statistics *i personally am very wary of statistics*


1) of course it's ok.
2) that's also ok and no one's stopping you. you're just reminded not to be behave like a juvenile and prat.
3)How could you possibly determine this? My buddy was a die hard fps player and he adored DA:O on the 360. Our World of Warcrack addict roommate despised it. 
4) were the one who dragged us across several pages because you refused to admit, or even try to understand how, basic stats works? I remember how weak your understand of genetics was and was wondering if that applies here, too.

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tez19 wrote...

Mehow_pwn wrote...

actually I want to prove you wrong tpryan01

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You claim that no 8-25 person never played WoW? ... You see thats where your totally wrong I was 14 myself when WoW came out so this fact Is totaly bull**** nice try tho

dont bother arguing with her mate, she completely twists ''statistics'' she has found to back up her arguement, in the very first page of this thread she twisted a stat about being more female gamers then male AND EVEN A MOD CHANGED HER POST to show she had twisted the statement to fit her arguement. go check it out its on the first page of this thread.


Once agian your right :whistle: But let her speak her opnion she has every right.. However her claim on things is false :P

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tez19 wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

Women getting to voice complaints = ok
Men voicing complaints = not ok
is this what I am hearing has happened?
A problem with new players is they are more likely to not like the game....may misunderstand it and say bad/untrue things about it....Of course I have no statistics *i personally am very wary of statistics*

get used to it mate, its the age old minority gets to complain but the majority has to shutup bend over and take it good and proper.


stuff it, you self righteous prat.

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MariSkep wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

Women getting to voice complaints = ok
Men voicing complaints = not ok
is this what I am hearing has happened?
A problem with new players is they are more likely to not like the game....may misunderstand it and say bad/untrue things about it....Of course I have no statistics *i personally am very wary of statistics*

get used to it mate, its the age old minority gets to complain but the majority has to shutup bend over and take it good and proper.


stuff it, you self righteous prat.


Everyone ignore him... his the new rage troll in town

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MariSkep wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

Women getting to voice complaints = ok
Men voicing complaints = not ok
is this what I am hearing has happened?
A problem with new players is they are more likely to not like the game....may misunderstand it and say bad/untrue things about it....Of course I have no statistics *i personally am very wary of statistics*

get used to it mate, its the age old minority gets to complain but the majority has to shutup bend over and take it good and proper.


stuff it, you self righteous prat.


This is a balant insult. You sir, are no better than the ones you combat.

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yeah true, i have nothing but happines that females love dragn age, the more people buy dragon age the more successful it is the more money the devs get the more games will be made etc..

i just despise the topic of this thread and find the arguement ridiculous and i wanted to give my opinion on it. that being done i will just sit back and watch the thread continue and interject when someone says something i find ridiculous or humurous. HAPPY FACE :)

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MariSkep another show of your ingenius arguement tactic. i have been ignoring you for a few pages now as i do not like to feed the trolls. here nibble on this last crumb i am giving you coz it will be the last. :)

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Mehow_pwn wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

Women getting to voice complaints = ok
Men voicing complaints = not ok
is this what I am hearing has happened?
A problem with new players is they are more likely to not like the game....may misunderstand it and say bad/untrue things about it....Of course I have no statistics *i personally am very wary of statistics*

get used to it mate, its the age old minority gets to complain but the majority has to shutup bend over and take it good and proper.


stuff it, you self righteous prat.


Everyone ignore him... his the new rage troll in town


oh that's rich. You and your 'friends' spent the last pages of this thread posting intentionally inciting and blatantly sexist rubbish aimed at dismissing the concerns this thread was started to address and painting yourselves as the victim. You even go so far as to cry to daddy because you didn't like the way you were being treated and didn't want to make a case for your arguments. You're spineless.

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Rogue Unit wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

Women getting to voice complaints = ok
Men voicing complaints = not ok
is this what I am hearing has happened?
A problem with new players is they are more likely to not like the game....may misunderstand it and say bad/untrue things about it....Of course I have no statistics *i personally am very wary of statistics*

get used to it mate, its the age old minority gets to complain but the majority has to shutup bend over and take it good and proper.


stuff it, you self righteous prat.


This is a balant insult. You sir, are no better than the ones you combat.


it's calling a spade a spade, which I'm always willing to do.

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Sternchen wrote...

I don´t understand, why all grumble about the marketing, the femal gamer ..
I´m a femal gamer. That´s clear.
I like the trailer. They show us Hawke! That´s absolute a reason for woman to buy that game.
Besides, everyone love Diablo II. Nobody thought about a female version.
I´m looking forward Dragon Age 2! If there is something to grumble, i will do it, if i know, what.
And no breasts or beards or chesthair can keep me from doing this.


I remember the classes in Diablo II being heavily marketed.  Most people knew you could play as female characters from the advertising.  You wouldn't know you could play as a female character from the Mass Effect advertising.  Same will probably happen for DA2.

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To be fair, I didn't post and sexist comments. You on the other hand flat out insulted someone because you disagreed with them. That's a great way to have a debate. When you can't think of a counter point insult them.

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MariSkep wrote...

Rogue Unit wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

Women getting to voice complaints = ok
Men voicing complaints = not ok
is this what I am hearing has happened?
A problem with new players is they are more likely to not like the game....may misunderstand it and say bad/untrue things about it....Of course I have no statistics *i personally am very wary of statistics*

get used to it mate, its the age old minority gets to complain but the majority has to shutup bend over and take it good and proper.


stuff it, you self righteous prat.


This is a balant insult. You sir, are no better than the ones you combat.


it's calling a spade a spade, which I'm always willing to do.


Meaning you are no less childish or no more intelligent than the ones you're insulting.

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Rogue Unit wrote...

To be fair, I didn't post and sexist comments. You on the other hand flat out insulted someone because you disagreed with them. That's a great way to have a debate. When you can't think of a counter point insult them.


Let just hope he will keep his foul mouth after such an enlightning comment :whistle:

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Rogue Unit wrote...

To be fair, I didn't post and sexist comments. You on the other hand flat out insulted someone because you disagreed with them. That's a great way to have a debate. When you can't think of a counter point insult them.

don't worry about it mate, i'm not. let other forum members read his/her replies and judge for themselves. there are so many conflicting opinions in this forum which is great that everyone gets to voice their opinion. i disagree with many people here, like many people i am sure disagree with me. the insulting people like MariSkep do hamper the other forum users from arguing each others points, but i trust other people enough to make up their own minds and not think ''HE CALLED HIM A PRAT SO HE MUST BE A PRAT.  PRAT, PRAT, PRAT,PRAT(chanting)''.

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Aww crap mariskep going against logic....

Also are their no statistics for RPG non online games?

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Rogue Unit wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Rogue Unit wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

Women getting to voice complaints = ok
Men voicing complaints = not ok
is this what I am hearing has happened?
A problem with new players is they are more likely to not like the game....may misunderstand it and say bad/untrue things about it....Of course I have no statistics *i personally am very wary of statistics*

get used to it mate, its the age old minority gets to complain but the majority has to shutup bend over and take it good and proper.


stuff it, you self righteous prat.


This is a balant insult. You sir, are no better than the ones you combat.


it's calling a spade a spade, which I'm always willing to do.


Meaning you are no less childish or no more intelligent than the ones you're insulting.


oh save it.