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[tez19]

Shiroukai wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

TheMufflon wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

How do we know it targets young males though?

Did you actually watch the trailer?

So fighting and violence does not appeal to female players?

The entire trailer is geared toward appealing to the imagined male drive for combat, action, high adventure and romance. 

So women do not like combat,action,high adventure and romance???

I never knew that Hawke and the qunari were in a romantic relationship .
This should be posted in the "what do we know so far" thread!

oh yeah, that whole fight was just over the fact that hawke left the toilet seat up.

[Mehow_pwn]

I even made a thread about "What do women like about dragon age" I really hope we get so info there as to how bioware should make games from now on!

Modifié par Mehow_pwn, 31 août 2010 - 04:50 .

[Lord Gremlin]

tez19 wrote...

Shiroukai wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

TheMufflon wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

How do we know it targets young males though?

Did you actually watch the trailer?

So fighting and violence does not appeal to female players?

The entire trailer is geared toward appealing to the imagined male drive for combat, action, high adventure and romance. 

So women do not like combat,action,high adventure and romance???

I never knew that Hawke and the qunari were in a romantic relationship .
This should be posted in the "what do we know so far" thread!

oh yeah, that whole fight was just over the fact that hawke left the toilet seat up.

It appears then that Hawke overdid it a bit. I mean - come on, rip apart over a toilet seat? This guy's a maniac.


Awesome...

[tez19]

MariSkep wrote...

TheMufflon wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

The entire trailer is geared toward appealing to the imagined male drive for combat, action, high adventure and romance. 

Way to shoot yourself in the foot. I would have enjoyed it more if you hadn't hit my foot in the process.

that is the archetype for stories generally aimed at a younger male audience. You're welcome to review any work of mythology you like to verify that. It is what it is.

LMAO, 3 words for ya Mari:

clutching
at
straws

Modifié par tez19, 31 août 2010 - 04:58 .

[TheMufflon]

MariSkep wrote...

that is the archetype for stories generally aimed at a younger male audience. You're welcome to review any work of mythology you like to verify that. It is what it is.

Young women tend to enjoy high adventure and romance, too. Also, why would I want to review a work of mythology to verify that? Most mythology is geared towards universal appeal.

[tez19]

MariSkep wrote...

Shiroukai wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

TheMufflon wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

How do we know it targets young males though?

Did you actually watch the trailer?

So fighting and violence does not appeal to female players?

The entire trailer is geared toward appealing to the imagined male drive for combat, action, high adventure and romance. 

So women do not like combat,action,high adventure and romance???

I never knew that Hawke and the qunari were in a romantic relationship .
This should be posted in the "what do we know so far" thread!

So I'm the only who saw a dashing young man steal a kiss from the mysterious woman at the docks? (the pirate chick)

OH FOR F*** SAKE WILL YOU LIGHTEN UP!!
nah we all missed that part of the trailer.
you are socially dead, do you know what a joke is??

Modifié par tez19, 31 août 2010 - 04:57 .

[TheMufflon]

MariSkep wrote...

if I showed you an ad of a white family sitting down to dinner reciting a
psalm would it be any less geared to a predominately white Christian
family because some aspects of it could have broader appeals?

The audience to which the ad was intended would not change by you showing it to me, no. But even though that is what you asked, I'm assuming that's not what you meant.

The ad would, however, have been less geared towards a white christian family if it had aspects with a broader appeal, than if all lacked those aspects.

and off topic but, many Creation stories and the like were aimed at a larger audience. Stories of heroes like the Oddysey had a much more male audience in mind. And that's the archetype we've borrowed for modern stories about heroes.

Hero myths do not constitute all, or even most, mythology.

EDIT: Besides, suggesting that I peruse hero mythology to see that the elements of hero mythology appeals to a predominantly young male audience doesn't really make any sense.

Modifié par TheMufflon, 31 août 2010 - 05:25 .

[Kiely]

MariSkep wrote...

TheMufflon wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

if I showed you an ad of a white family sitting down to dinner reciting a
psalm would it be any less geared to a predominately white Christian
family because some aspects of it could have broader appeals?

The audience to which the ad was intended would not change by you showing it to me, no. But even though that is what you asked, I'm assuming that's not what you meant.

The ad would, however, have been less geared towards a white christian family if it had aspects with a broader appeal, than if all lacked those aspects.

and off topic but, many Creation stories and the like were aimed at a larger audience. Stories of heroes like the Oddysey had a much more male audience in mind. And that's the archetype we've borrowed for modern stories about heroes.

Hero myths do not constitute all, or even most, mythology.

EDIT: Besides, suggesting that I peruse hero mythology to see that the elements of hero mythology appeals to a predominantly young male audience doesn't really make any sense.

whatever let's just drop this. I'll even leave the conversation all together.

That may not be a bad idea. While I do see your point and can appreciate your frustration in dealing with the overly obtuse on this forum, you really do need to put down your shovel... for your sake.

[Wakara Pezi]

Arrtis wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

TheMufflon wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

How do we know it targets young males though?

Did you actually watch the trailer?

So fighting and violence does not appeal to female players?

 
The entire trailer is geared toward appealing to the imagined male drive for combat, action, high adventure and romance. 

So women do not like combat,action,high adventure and romance???

It would be nice if they'd used a female Hawke instead of a male... [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie]

[nightcobra]

Wakara Pezi wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

TheMufflon wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

How do we know it targets young males though?

Did you actually watch the trailer?

So fighting and violence does not appeal to female players?

 
The entire trailer is geared toward appealing to the imagined male drive for combat, action, high adventure and romance. 

So women do not like combat,action,high adventure and romance???

It would be nice if they'd used a female Hawke instead of a male... [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie]

or using both, overshadowing one because of the other is bad for either gender

[Wakara Pezi]

Well, they already have the male hawke... Let's see Lady Hawke then.

[Arrtis]

Wakara Pezi wrote...

Well, they already have the male hawke... Let's see Lady Hawke then.

They said they are planning on it.

[Uidori]

Lady Hawke just makes me think of Michelle Pfeiffer and Rutger Hauer. Maybe that's why they didn't use her in the trailer.



I don't think anyone is saying guys suck if they disagree, but sneering at someone who has a suggestion and calling them a whiner is hardly constructive. The point of a forum is to have a place where people voice their opinions.



Having a female character in a commercial probably won't make me more likely to buy a game. I buy Bioware games because I like the story content, and I enjoyed the replayability of DAO. I don't honestly know if more women would play just because they saw a female character. If it was being marketed towards women I think the romance aspect being played up would help....maybe the customization of characters...



Sims is the gateway drug for some women. I got my sister in law hooked on it even though she thought she hated video games.

[Daur]

Uidori wrote...

Lady Hawke just makes me think of Michelle Pfeiffer and Rutger Hauer. Maybe that's why they didn't use her in the trailer.

I don't think anyone is saying guys suck if they disagree, but sneering at someone who has a suggestion and calling them a whiner is hardly constructive. The point of a forum is to have a place where people voice their opinions.

Having a female character in a commercial probably won't make me more likely to buy a game. I buy Bioware games because I like the story content, and I enjoyed the replayability of DAO. I don't honestly know if more women would play just because they saw a female character. If it was being marketed towards women I think the romance aspect being played up would help....maybe the customization of characters...

Sims is the gateway drug for some women. I got my sister in law hooked on it even though she thought she hated video games.

how dare you equate the sims with other video games by calling it such

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The marketing doesn't irk me as much as the game content which is significantly more important, to me, than who they advertise on the box. If femHawke receives the same amount of choices as maleHawke or at least equal content, then the marketing isn't really that big of an issue. Marketing is never fair to begin with and BioWare is still a business and thus they must go with what might be most financially responsible for them to do.



However, I'm sure a few concept arts or even a brief trailer featuring femHawke couldn't hurt either. I just know the game will be great, that's something you can always count on.

[endtransmission]

Daur wrote...

Uidori wrote...

Lady Hawke just makes me think of Michelle Pfeiffer and Rutger Hauer. Maybe that's why they didn't use her in the trailer.

I don't think anyone is saying guys suck if they disagree, but sneering at someone who has a suggestion and calling them a whiner is hardly constructive. The point of a forum is to have a place where people voice their opinions.

Having a female character in a commercial probably won't make me more likely to buy a game. I buy Bioware games because I like the story content, and I enjoyed the replayability of DAO. I don't honestly know if more women would play just because they saw a female character. If it was being marketed towards women I think the romance aspect being played up would help....maybe the customization of characters...

Sims is the gateway drug for some women. I got my sister in law hooked on it even though she thought she hated video games.

how dare you equate the sims with other video games by calling it such

Not all video games are defined by blood, guts, gore and violence. Some are defined by strategy, first-person shooting and racing as well. Video games is a broad category that includes simulation games, hence the Sims.

[Riona45]

Uidori wrote...

Lady Hawke just makes me think of Michelle Pfeiffer and Rutger Hauer. Maybe that's why they didn't use her in the trailer.

No.  "Lady Hawke" is not an official name or anything, it's more a fan name that has "stuck" here.  Although I don't doubt such an important figure in the setting will eventually be addressed as "Lord" or "Lady."

Modifié par Riona45, 01 septembre 2010 - 11:55 .

[raulsems]

Why does it matter if you know you can be a female it's not like it's a online game of something.

[ErichHartmann]

raulsems wrote...

Why does it matter if you know you can be a female it's not like it's a online game of something.

Why bother posting if you don't even bother to read the first 10 pages or so?

[Arrtis]

Why bother making this thread when their marketing will appeal to men and women?