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[jazzy B 3]

Looking back at the history of Thedas (getting on for 2100 years now) and came across the Imperial Chantry which broke away in Towers 3:87.  Basically they say that The Imperial chantry says magic is allright as long as it's not blood magic.  If I found out I was a mage, or my child was a mage I'd probably head for there.  Less shame and ridicule and hate all around.  Who wants to suffer the disgust of the people you grew up with and your neighbors anyway?

Anyone else with me on this?

Mages for Tevinter!

Edit:  I should probably finish reading the history ...

Modifié par jazzy B 3, 23 août 2010 - 04:42 .

[Russalka]

Except that Tevinter is kind of thousands of kilometres away.

Modifié par Russalka, 23 août 2010 - 05:05 .

[AntiChri5]

And the mages are all locked up.

[RevengeofNewton]

And if they leave they get hunted by Templars.

[Sir JK]

Probably because it isn't that easy to leave everything you have, your language and your culture behind. Remember, this isn't the modern world with it's universal languages, cheap flights and credit system.



If it is anything like in europe, then the vast amount of people are simply not allowed to pack up and leave without a permission from their liege-lord.

Even if people in general are allowed to leave, they'd still need to have enough money to make a new life. Not only do they need money for a home, but also for seeds to grow from, tools to work with and to pay tolls and taxes on the way. Chances are they'll lose it all before they get to Tevinter and end up having to sell themselves into slavery/prostitution.

Mages will have it even worse, regardless what the chantry thinks of magic they do recognise just how valuable it is to have around (hence the circles). While where a mage is allowed to go to is the perogative of the first enchanter I doubt that the local chantry would simply accept that the mages picked up and left, especially not to heretical Tevinter.



Then there's the fact that travelling is a long and slow process. Travelling by foot or horse will take months, if not years. You'll have to frequently stop by towns in which you share neither culture nor language with the inhabitants and where it costs a toll to enter and leave. Most roads will be unkept and sign-posts will be rare if existing at all.

Travelling by ship is much faster, but also dependant on weather and very dangerous. Especially since any ships bound for Tevinter must round Rivain and risk Qunari waters.



Third problem lie in religion. The Imperial Chantry is not the Andrastian Chantry. Religion makes up such a enormous part of culture that this will be very difficult to get used to. Lots of things will be very very difficult, and you'll have trouble understanding it all. You'll be a bit of a pariah in the primary social institution around. Alone and vunerable.



Fourth problem... the Qunari. These mysterious beings that have attacked civilisation and have their lands just north of Tevinter. Who knows when they'll attack? Perhaps they've already burned Minrathous? Can one tell a difference between them and humans (yes, I know one can. But it's not a implausible question to the average person in Thedas)? Is it true they sneak into homes in Tevinter and eat your children? etc.



Fifth problem.... everything one hears in this world is hearsay and rumours. There's no reliable news or source of information. No travel agencies or embassies. No internet. At best you'll hear it from someone who heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend. Can you actually be sure it's better in Tevinter? What if it's a lie, what if mages have it worse? Is Tevinter still ruled by blood mages?



Just the top of my head why mages and people related to mages are not doing mass exodii.

[iampool]

Templars run pretty fast, even with that massive armor of theirs.

[Saibh]

I would say that option two for people who don't want to go to Tevinter is head to Lothering! The stupidest, most incompetant templars in the world live there! Until it's destroyed...but then you can escape, and there is a Blight, so who cares!

Modifié par Saibh, 23 août 2010 - 05:18 .

[Enshaid]

Obviously Tevinter has tigers. Man-eating tigers. Moving there isn't worth the trouble. I heard it on the interwebs I swear.

[Ulicus]

Saibh wrote...

I would say that option two for people who don't want to go to Tevinter is head to Lothering! The stupidest, most incompetant templars in the world live there! Until it's destroyed...but then you can escape, and there is a Blight, so who cares!

Indeed. The Ferelden Templars of Lothering have demonstrated time and again that they are incapable of doing their job. Ser Byrant blames the acronym.

Modifié par Ulicus, 23 août 2010 - 05:27 .

[Dave of Canada]

Saibh wrote...

I would say that option two for people who don't want to go to Tevinter is head to Lothering! The stupidest, most incompetant templars in the world live there! Until it's destroyed...but then you can escape, and there is a Blight, so who cares!

Lothering's templars aren't incompetant. They managed to lock up a surrendering man.

[David Gaider]

All the reasons people have mentioned are valid.



There's also the fact that the Tevinter magisters don't particularly like the idea of having foreign mages flooding into the Imperium and possibly becoming competitors-- they're not sympathetic to the plight of mages elsewhere. Remember that the magisters are at the top of the food chain there. For them it's a matter of political power.



Even if a foreign mage *was* able to get into the Imperium, that wouldn't automatically make them a magister. They might find that life among a pack of piranha at the bottom of their particular pile, while filled with much more "freedom" than they're used to, comes with its own... difficulties.

[Ulicus]

David Gaider wrote...

All the reasons people have mentioned are valid.

Even Freek's? Awesome!

[Enshaid]

David Gaider wrote...

All the reasons people have mentioned are valid.

David Gaider wrote...
All the reasons people have mentioned are valid.

Even mine? Heh. Told ya. Tevinter has man-eating tigers. It has been confirmed.

[David Gaider]

Ulicus wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

All the reasons people have mentioned are valid.

Even Freek's? Awesome!

Well, okay. Most of the reasons.

[Enshaid]

nvr miiind...

Modifié par Freek on a Leesh, 23 août 2010 - 05:33 .

[Enshaid]

David Gaider wrote...

Ulicus wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

All the reasons people have mentioned are valid.

Even Freek's? Awesome!

Well, okay. Most of the reasons.

dreams=crushed

[RevengeofNewton]

No take-backs Dave.

David Gaider has just admitted Tevinter has Man-Eating Tigers.
Time to update the "What do we know" thread.

Modifié par RevengeofNewton, 23 août 2010 - 05:33 .

[MuseMajora]

Nice post Sir JK! Very well written.

Modifié par MuseMajora, 23 août 2010 - 05:34 .

[Saibh]

David Gaider wrote...

Ulicus wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

All the reasons people have mentioned are valid.

Even Freek's? Awesome!

Well, okay. Most of the reasons.

That implies that Lothering is a viable hideout for mages oh yeah. That's what you get for being all suspicious of Morrigan. I'm pretty sure that one templar was just staring at her cleavage. "I got my eye on you"? Psh.

Modifié par Saibh, 23 août 2010 - 05:35 .

[Meltemph]

"the fact that the Tevinter magisters don't particularly like the idea of having foreign mages flooding into the Imperium and possibly becoming competitors-- they're not sympathetic to the plight of mages elsewhere. Remember that the magisters are at the top of the food chain there. For them it's a matter of political power.


Even if a foreign mage *was* able to get into the Imperium, that wouldn't automatically make them a magister. They might find that life among a pack of piranha at the bottom of their particular pile, while filled with much more "freedom" than they're used to, comes with its own... difficulties."

Is it wrong, that I was hoping a "codex" icon appeared at the bottom of my screen after reading this?  Just a little more insight in the current culture of Teviniter with-in this current timeline.

[David Gaider]

Meltemph wrote...
Is it wrong, that I was hoping a "codex" icon appeared at the bottom of my screen after reading this?  Just a little more insight in the current culture of Teviniter with-in this current timeline.

You may indeed run into some more lore on Tevinter...

...but not on these forums. Try DA2.

[Enshaid]

David Gaider wrote...

You may indeed run into some more lore on Tevinter...

...but not on these forums. Try DA2.

Can weatleast get a confirmation on Tevinter Tigers?

[Dave of Canada]

Freek on a Leesh wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

You may indeed run into some more lore on Tevinter...

...but not on these forums. Try DA2.

Can weatleast get a confirmation on Tevinter Tigers?

That sounds more like a sports team.

"The Tevinter Tigers vs the Ferelden Hounds!"

[Anarya]

Saibh wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Ulicus wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

All the reasons people have mentioned are valid.

Even Freek's? Awesome!

Well, okay. Most of the reasons.

That implies that Lothering is a viable hideout for mages oh yeah. That's what you get for being all suspicious of Morrigan. I'm pretty sure that one templar was just staring at her cleavage. "I got my eye on you"? Psh.

Well you know, Templars don't really seem all that scary, bless their hearts. Except Cullen. *shiver*

[Dave of Canada]

Anarya wrote...

Well you know, Templars don't really seem all that scary, bless their hearts. Except Cullen. *shiver*

Ever pissed off Alistair? That's some scary **** right there.