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[IndigoWolfe]

What I would like to know is just how seriously Bioware's taken the production of this DLC. Did they force themselves into the understandably more serious mindset of the production of the main game? Or was it a more relaxed one of DLC production.

For instance; I doubt the air was very grim or serious when they were trying to figure out which canyons you would fly through in Firewalker.

[jlb524]

LordMarrick wrote...

ok people Bio updated the 360 ME2 for the new content i had all the updates but i just got another one maybe the put some background DLC files in

Oh...maybe.  I have the PC version though.

[JamieCOTC]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Worrywort wrote...
Yeah, well, y'know that just like uhh your opinion, man.

You disagree? Look at the carry over decisions. They all turned out to be one conversation each, some a tad longer than others, but all relegated to the extremes of side-quest land.

When importing a Shep who didn't recruit Garrus, the only difference is that Garrus doesn't mention his being on the team and the initial greeting sentence is different.

When importing a Shepard who pissed off Tali she completely forgets that she didn't like you and turns into a fangirl.

When recruiting Morinth you end up with Samara's character model everywhere but the room on the Normandy, and the vast, vast majority of her dialogue is Samara's dialogue and voice. On top of that she gets only one dialogue tree on the Normandy as it is.

ME2 is full BioWare taking the easy way out. If you disagree, or think that's just my opinion, go ahead and point out my errors.

*Forgot to mention the email system as well. LOL, if that's not the easy way out I don't know what is.

Couldn't agree more.  I just replayed ME1 and there is so much more "texture" to that game it makes ME2 seem sad.  The graphics and combat are leaps and bounds better in ME2 and there is more squad interaction, but the story and “feel” of ME1 make it a better overall experience. 
 

[tom.bleaker]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

What I would like to know is just how seriously Bioware's taken the production of this DLC. Did they force themselves into the understandably more serious mindset of the production of the main game? Or was it a more relaxed one of DLC production.
For instance; I doubt the air was very grim or serious when they were trying to figure out which canyons you would fly through in Firewalker.

From what they have publicly said about this DLC it should be more serious than the other DLC. It's still DLC, however, and will have the limitations attendant to something less than a full expansion.

Overlord < LotSB < [Expansion Pack, e.g. DA:A)

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I wonder if this patch/update has altered Liara's existing ME2 scenes or dialogue at all?

*ponders*

Go check.  I know you have a save before each one of her ME2 dialogs

[Silver]

I think in terms of squad-banter and the relationships between the characters, ME2 suffers from being the middle-child of the trilogy.

This is the same for almost every game & movie out there that is number 2 in a trilogy.

The gap has to be bridged somehow, and most of the time this is done by stretching the story out and saving on conversation between characters.

[golak]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I wonder if this patch/update has altered Liara's existing ME2 scenes or dialogue at all?

*ponders*

nvm

Modifié par golak, 31 août 2010 - 08:09 .

[tom.bleaker]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I wonder if this patch/update has altered Liara's existing ME2 scenes or dialogue at all?

*ponders*

Like she presses a secret button and you are whisked away to her secret lair?

Liara: This is were I keep all my extranet clippings of the SB...

[TMA LIVE]

These is no patch. Nothing was updated on my end.

[tom.bleaker]

silverhammer08 wrote...

I think in terms of squad-banter and the relationships between the characters, ME2 suffers from being the middle-child of the trilogy.
This is the same for almost every game & movie out there that is number 2 in a trilogy.
The gap has to be bridged somehow, and most of the time this is done by stretching the story out and saving on conversation between characters.

Just promise me there will be no Ewoks in ME3.

[LordMarrick]

Mister Mida wrote...

LordMarrick wrote...

ok people Bio updated the 360 ME2 for the new content i had all the updates but i just got another one maybe the put some background DLC files in

What update? I just started up ME2 and I got nothing.

i dont no then i was playing yersterday and nothing today "this game requiers an update to play" maybe u got nothing yet i no the live servers get the update at diffrent time depending on the area and country im in the UK south east

[Fiery Phoenix]

TMA LIVE wrote...

These is no patch. Nothing was updated on my end.

My 360 is right next to me, but I'm too lazy to check and see for myself.

Give it some time maybe? I don't think it's released simultaneously.

[Nerevar-as]

JamieCOTC wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Worrywort wrote...
Yeah, well, y'know that just like uhh your opinion, man.

You disagree? Look at the carry over decisions. They all turned out to be one conversation each, some a tad longer than others, but all relegated to the extremes of side-quest land.

When importing a Shep who didn't recruit Garrus, the only difference is that Garrus doesn't mention his being on the team and the initial greeting sentence is different.

When importing a Shepard who pissed off Tali she completely forgets that she didn't like you and turns into a fangirl.

When recruiting Morinth you end up with Samara's character model everywhere but the room on the Normandy, and the vast, vast majority of her dialogue is Samara's dialogue and voice. On top of that she gets only one dialogue tree on the Normandy as it is.

ME2 is full BioWare taking the easy way out. If you disagree, or think that's just my opinion, go ahead and point out my errors.

*Forgot to mention the email system as well. LOL, if that's not the easy way out I don't know what is.

Couldn't agree more.  I just replayed ME1 and there is so much more "texture" to that game it makes ME2 seem sad.  The graphics and combat are leaps and bounds better in ME2 and there is more squad interaction, but the story and “feel” of ME1 make it a better overall experience. 
 

More squad interaction? What squad interaction? For a Dirty Dozen sf remake most squadies didn´t seem to be in talking terms at all. And with Shepard there was just the click in scenario from time to time.
There are parts of the game where the devs seem to just have gone through the motions. And the continuity they talked so much about? It barely shows. We can´t even mention Akuze.

[Fiery Phoenix]

LordMarrick wrote...

Mister Mida wrote...

LordMarrick wrote...

ok people Bio updated the 360 ME2 for the new content i had all the updates but i just got another one maybe the put some background DLC files in

What update? I just started up ME2 and I got nothing.

i dont no then i was playing yersterday and nothing today "this game requiers an update to play" maybe u got nothing yet i no the live servers get the update at diffrent time depending on the area and country im in the UK south east

Did you clear your system cache recently by any chance? Clearing your cache tends to remove all of your downloaded updates.

If not, then it just hasn't arrived to everyone yet.

[golak]

JamieCOTC wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Worrywort wrote...
Yeah, well, y'know that just like uhh your opinion, man.

You disagree? Look at the carry over decisions. They all turned out to be one conversation each, some a tad longer than others, but all relegated to the extremes of side-quest land.

When importing a Shep who didn't recruit Garrus, the only difference is that Garrus doesn't mention his being on the team and the initial greeting sentence is different.

When importing a Shepard who pissed off Tali she completely forgets that she didn't like you and turns into a fangirl.

When recruiting Morinth you end up with Samara's character model everywhere but the room on the Normandy, and the vast, vast majority of her dialogue is Samara's dialogue and voice. On top of that she gets only one dialogue tree on the Normandy as it is.

ME2 is full BioWare taking the easy way out. If you disagree, or think that's just my opinion, go ahead and point out my errors.

*Forgot to mention the email system as well. LOL, if that's not the easy way out I don't know what is.

Couldn't agree more.  I just replayed ME1 and there is so much more "texture" to that game it makes ME2 seem sad.  The graphics and combat are leaps and bounds better in ME2 and there is more squad interaction, but the story and “feel” of ME1 make it a better overall experience. 
 

 same i blame EA for setting a timeline for bioware when they chould have done so much more

Modifié par golak, 31 août 2010 - 08:15 .

[Silver]

tom.bleaker wrote...

silverhammer08 wrote...

I think in terms of squad-banter and the relationships between the characters, ME2 suffers from being the middle-child of the trilogy.
This is the same for almost every game & movie out there that is number 2 in a trilogy.
The gap has to be bridged somehow, and most of the time this is done by stretching the story out and saving on conversation between characters.

Just promise me there will be no Ewoks in ME3.

The friggin' volus already remind me enough of these geeky teddybears, if BW adds something akin to the Ewoks into ME3, i'm going bat**** insane...

[LordMarrick]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Did you clear your system cache recently by any chance? Clearing your cache tends to remove all of your downloaded updates.

If not, then it just hasn't arrived to everyone yet.

no i have not as i have been downloading every thing i had before i got a new HDD but i got the update strait away after transfering my profile

[Fiery Phoenix]

LordMarrick wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Did you clear your system cache recently by any chance? Clearing your cache tends to remove all of your downloaded updates.

If not, then it just hasn't arrived to everyone yet.

no i have not as i have been downloading every thing i had before i got a new HDD but i got the update strait away after transfering my profile

Hm, you're making me want to fire up ME2 right now.

We'll see.

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 31 août 2010 - 08:17 .

[jamskinner]

There is no
update.

Modifié par jamskinner, 31 août 2010 - 08:21 .

[CottonBALL]

A bit off topic, but....

Lithuania just beated Spain in Turkey!! HELL YEAH!!! I love those guys!!!

[jwalker]

LPPrince wrote...

The three squaddies that need dialogue are Garrus, Tali, and Miranda.

That's it. No one else NEEDS something to say, immersion wise.

But if those three don't mention that they know Liara, its a major fail.

Don't forget in the main game, you can bring Tali and Garrrus to your first meeting with Wrex in Tuchanka and no one says anything. Only Shepard and Wrex talk. 

[Annihilator27]

jwalker wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

The three squaddies that need dialogue are Garrus, Tali, and Miranda.

That's it. No one else NEEDS something to say, immersion wise.

But if those three don't mention that they know Liara, its a major fail.

Don't forget in the main game, you can bring Tali and Garrrus to your first meeting with Wrex in Tuchanka and no one says anything. Only Shepard and Wrex talk. 

Miranda and Thane can have something to say. On the latter wasnt it the SB that had something to do with his wife's death?

[Mr. MannlyMan]

JamieCOTC wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Worrywort wrote...
Yeah, well, y'know that just like uhh your opinion, man.

You disagree? Look at the carry over decisions. They all turned out to be one conversation each, some a tad longer than others, but all relegated to the extremes of side-quest land.

When importing a Shep who didn't recruit Garrus, the only difference is that Garrus doesn't mention his being on the team and the initial greeting sentence is different.

When importing a Shepard who pissed off Tali she completely forgets that she didn't like you and turns into a fangirl.

When recruiting Morinth you end up with Samara's character model everywhere but the room on the Normandy, and the vast, vast majority of her dialogue is Samara's dialogue and voice. On top of that she gets only one dialogue tree on the Normandy as it is.

ME2 is full BioWare taking the easy way out. If you disagree, or think that's just my opinion, go ahead and point out my errors.

*Forgot to mention the email system as well. LOL, if that's not the easy way out I don't know what is.

Couldn't agree more.  I just replayed ME1 and there is so much more "texture" to that game it makes ME2 seem sad.  The graphics and combat are leaps and bounds better in ME2 and there is more squad interaction, but the story and “feel” of ME1 make it a better overall experience. 
 

Despite how impressed I was with Mass Effect 2, Mass Effect 1 remains my best sample of Bioware ingenuity and cultivated OCD with regards to the story, characters, dialogue, etc. (other than DA:O, which was obviously on another level entirely). Wrex's discord with Shepard during the Rachni Queen confrontation, Liara's dialogue, Ashley's connection to her family and how she shared that with you, her reasons for being racist, Kaidan's well-developed background, the Romances (even though, back when ME1 came out, I, like most other people, complained about the abruptness to them). The debriefings where the team was gathered together (I f&&*ing miss those), and the same three or four people always being the ones with something to say...

The ONLY times I was disappointed was when I was given a short praragraph of text on a mission that described a scene that hadn't been animated or voiced during production; and even that wasn't that frequent.

Of course, I remember reading during ME2's late development that the team had pretty much finished several things ahead of schedule (no surprise), so they decided to add random features like the fish tank and the radio in Shepard's room.

I'm not complaining, I'm just pointing out that the game (and the DLCs we've gotten), despite the polish they've recieved, are inferior to the first game in most ways. I would rather Bioware release ME3 in 2013 and turn its efforts from improving on combat (which was excellent in ME2), to improving the story, character development, carry-over continuity, and dialogue.

Modifié par Mr. MannlyMan, 31 août 2010 - 08:28 .