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[Yakko77]

PHub88 wrote...

WTF did I miss?

Before it was just people complaining about how lame it is that we have no info...Now we have a release date and everyone is crying about it should of already beenin the game? like...wtf did I miss...a release date annoucement caused this?

Welcome to the internet.  You must be new here!

LOL!!

[fruitZ]

Gaah, I have to say that the PlayStation 3 announcement really sent me off from the forums. Now I am back, and in THIS topic, a very small minority is filled with PlayStation 3 discussions... Well, I have nothing against the console. I have one and I love its exclusives. Altough, the day the PlayStation 3 get its first exclusive Mass Effect 2 / Mass Effect 3 downloadable content... Well, I would be very sad.



But to get back in topic. Another great DLC, I really hope that the achievements aren't for "Liara Lovers" only, that would suck. :/

[obie191970]

SonofMacPhisto wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

People, please stop saying it's overpriced. Nobody even knows how long it is yet to make such a statement. Plus, it's a freakin 12 pack of American lager.

LOL - yeah, and typically crappy lager at that!

(Haha, my first post on a Bioware forum, and this is what I say.  I'm so proud.)

Yeah, well, you get what you pay for.  I will say that there is nothing better than an ice cold, cheap, watery beer on a hot summer afternoon though.

And, welcome!

[Yakko77]

SonofMacPhisto wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

People, please stop saying it's overpriced. Nobody even knows how long it is yet to make such a statement. Plus, it's a freakin 12 pack of American lager.

LOL - yeah, and typically crappy lager at that!

(Haha, my first post on a Bioware forum, and this is what I say.  I'm so proud.)

$10.... maybe a pint of a decent whiskey.  Or maybe that green stuff Shepard drinks at the bar in the Citadel.

[Nerevar-as]

Would like to be able to get Paramour with this DLC, but now I would just be happy if this time around characters are well written and not the game nonsense, without acknowledging ME1 squadies, or Miranda. For examaple, Thane should have dialog if there is a confrontation with SB.

[DaBigDragon]

What the hell is the Shadow Broker intel center?

[Massreaper]

I;m wondering what is 'intel center'?Any suggestions?

[Gibb_Garrus]

IS IT POST OR PRE SUICIDE MISSION?



I don't want another friggin email from TIM saying he found the shadowbroker when i clearly told him to shove it where the sun don't shine.

[Yakko77]

DaBigDragon wrote...

What the hell is the Shadow Broker intel center?

We get to set up dates for the Consort and take in a decent commission thus ending the credit shortage for those who spent too many creds strip mining the galaxy.

[SheppardJohn]

Thank you so much bioware!!!

[Kronner]

DaBigDragon wrote...

What the hell is the Shadow Broker intel center?

SB owns Intel in the future, so it is obviously CPU research center

Modifié par Kronner, 23 août 2010 - 10:03 .

[Sigilius]

Two points to make here:



1) I don't think BioWare lied to us in any way. They're obligated to deliver a product, and deliver a stellar product they did. They might not have catered to us exactly as we desired (believe me, I definately had bile in my mouth with Liara's cameo), but they released a great game and exceeded virtually all expectations. Now they're ammending that mistake, in ways that I personally never thought possible. I just expected another rail shooter in a Shadow-Broker-themed warehouse, but all indications are that this is completely false. Don't look at the 800 price as a bad omen, it's a great one! The largest and hopefully best DLC to date, and the price is to justify the work of Ali Hills and Hale/Meer in the studio, not to mention the extensive level design and other work. It's not much more expensive than Overlord, but it looks to be much better! (On a side note, two weeks is a long time, but it's another great sign. BioWare wasn't sure exactly when they'd be releasing, because they've been actively working on the project, no doubt taking our online suggestions into account.)



2) I'm of the opinion that the Shadow Broker Intel Center is completely different from the Broker's "Lair". Yes, we will visit the lair. Yes, we will never return. However, the Intel Center definately sounds like a new location. Whether it be a small station somewhere that we can visit regularly (tiny-scale Citadel, Omega, whatever), or indeed a center aboard the Normandy, we can be sure that Liara will be running it, and that further interaction with said amazing character will be more than possible.



Please, everyone, this is happy news. No need to be aggravated by it. Sit tight. This DLC is going to rock your world.

[DIrishB]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

DIrishB wrote...
I hate to say it Mystranna, but 90% of your posts are dripping with a very noticeable sense of entitlement. 

They're a business, and made no secret that ME2 was a game they were going to focus on DLC quite seriously with.  Its not surprising in any way Bioware would want to leave the Liara romance angle as a plot-line addressed in a future DLC, especially given the obvious fact of already having other available love interests in the new crew; and the EVEN MORE obvious reasoning that she couldn't be a part of the crew in ME2 so that she'd be guaranteed to survive for ME3 so she can be a playable, romanceable crew member in ME3.

So, please, stop acting like this is a crime against humanity.  A $5 - $10 DLC every month or so isn't ridiculous, so I don't understand why you're acting like it is.

You paid your $60 for the game, and you got the complete game for the $60.  If you feel your gameplay experience wasn't complete in some way because it lacked the Liara romance, then buy this DLC.  If you're just going to remain stubborn and not, then look to get your Liara romance fulfilled in ME3.

Seriously, I don't understand why you insist on playing the victim in the vast majority of your posts.

I like the hyperbole. It's nice to know you don't understand what's going on here. I'm not a victim. I'm merely an observer.

I accused you of playing the victim, not being one.  There's a difference--which I feel is important to point out, since apparently we're resorting to insulting each other's intelligence.  And true observers are silent...which you certainly aren't.

But, just to make it clear, I understand very well whats going on here:  you're desperate for attention.  You're always one of the most out-spoken complainers.  And thats your right, its also just tiring.  For someone who claims to be a realist, your cynical nature betrays you.  My God, I still remember the big stink you helped start concerning the "canon" Shepard in the ME comic awhile back.  All your worries and complaints about that really panned out, huh?  Though the comic sucked, you're cynical assumptions about Bioware "canonizing" Shepard were way off the mark.

The basis of your argument is that the Liara romance content should have been included in the actual ME2 game, not just as DLC.  Here's why that didn't happen:

Liara wasn't in ME2 as a squadmate for a reason (other than just being reserved for this DLC...see, I knew your cynical mind would jump right to that).  The reason is solely so that she couldn't or wouldn't take part in the suicide mission which made up ME2's plot, thus leaving her absolutely alive and well at the end of ME2 so she could appear as a squadmate and/or love interest in ME3.  If she'd been on the crew for the suicide mission and chance was against you (even if you'd completed all Loyalty missions and Normandy upgrades), she could have ended up dead...which would've put a damper on Bioware's plans for her in ME3, and your plans for continuing your love interest with Liara post-ME2.

The reasoning is there and logic is there, so why don't you understand this?  Granted...the execution and final product was admittedly disappointing in comparison to ME1, but I understand Bioware's decision to keep Liara in the background for ME2 so as to guarantee her a spot in ME3.

Garrus and Tali are crew members in ME2, but they weren't potential Love Interests in ME2, so there's no "carry-over" the developers have to worry about like with Liara.

[Bryy_Miller]

DaBigDragon wrote...

What the hell is the Shadow Broker intel center?

I'm guessing a new hideout from Cerberus.

[MajesticJazz]

I like the new look of Liara. She looks more mature and less "childish".

[implodinggoat]

ForceMuffin wrote...

"She'll do anything to recover the man the Broker kidnapped... ". Has Liara been cheating on Shep? =)

I thought that at first; but if you read the Redemption comics the answer turns out to be no.  Although why she'd become so obsessed over getting said dude back is rather unexplained.   He goes on one mission with her and lies to her for most of said mission about who he's working for.

All I can figure is that Liara has a kind of obsessive personality.  At first she was obsessed with the Protheans and archeology, then with getting Shepard's body back, and then when she'd done that she needed to find a new obsession and she seized on the Shadow Broker in order to give her life meaning. 

Although it still seems an odd choice since she makes the most important archeological discovery EVER in ME1, which is then rejected by the Council despite the fact that it proves an imminent invasion and possible holocaust at the hands of ancient sentient machines.  One would imagine that with Shepard gone she would have returned to archeology to prove the existence of the Reapers or at the least that she would return to Shepard when he comes back; but apparently the smartest member of your crew in ME1 decided that avenging some random Drell dude is more important than following up on her life's work by saving the galaxy with her former Commander and possible lover.

The obsession with the Shadow Broker fits in with the obsessive part of Liara's personality; but it clashes with her lifelong devotion to archeology, her loyalty to Shepard and the basic goodness she had in ME1.  Its crappy writing; but I still have to buy the DLC simply because the writing is so horrible that I crave a decent resolution to it.  Kind of a dirty trick on Bioware's part.  Still, I've enjoyed all the DLC so far so I would have bought it anyway.  I just hope they do justice to Liara's character in this DLC though, cause she got butchered in the main game.

[Ahkmed 7]

Well, I am just happy for some news and screenshots. The fact the news has a release date and a price is even better. For those complaining about the 800 points price, BW was probably going to set it at 560; but raised it once the original announcement thread hit 300+ pages. You know, "wow, there's some real demand for this."

I'm just kidding. Looking foward to it. Just wondering if I should use the faithful to Liara or the chated with Miranda playthrough...

[WilliamShatner]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

No, seriously, why wasn't this kind of thing in the main game? We know this DLC has been "in the works" for a long time because the files for this Liara DLC were in the game.

Yet what we get from Liara in the game is absolute crap; she doesn't the even mention the romance at all. Yet now we can? And the fact that this has been in development for so long tells me that you aren't "adding" the romantic content in after seeing that the fans didn't like your ME2 crap.

This just screams bad, manipulative business.

It wasn't in the main game because BioWare cared more about attracting new customers, spending resources on new unnessacary characters and amping up the graphics and combat than giving the fans of Mass Effect satsifying continuations of their character and companions.

[Malevolence65]

Can we get confirmation on whether this is pre or post-suicide mission? That actually has a bearing on when I do my next play through.

[Grimmace]

As for pre or post SM, wouldn't this have to be post SM to take advantage of the potential ME2 LI? If you may suffer the consequence of cheating on Liara in this DLC, it has to be after the SM since you don't get with any ME2 LIs until the SM starts. If it is before the SM, then you can shutdown Liara or the LI ME2 romance early and there is no conflict. If there is going to be ME2 LI and Liara conflict, how can it not happen until after the SM? Any one else have an idea?

As for location, if after the SM you told TIM to go pound sand, Liara and stay in the comm room. Don't need it to talk to TIM anymore, he can send emails. She could operate the remaining SB structure from there too.

As for the rest, whats 800 points at this point, I'm sure it will be worth it. Thanks Bioware!

Modifié par Grimmace, 23 août 2010 - 10:09 .

[hed777]

Just five days before my birthday so... an early present from someone who loves me; and I'll hopefully still be hunched over my monitor come the day. Yay!

800 points = $10... so about 6 quid then      

Modifié par hed777, 23 août 2010 - 10:11 .

[wolley5050]

shadow broker intel center is at the end of the mission where we get to download encrypted data on Cerberus and takes EDI a couple years to decrypt.



or.. maybe it sheds more light on what the alliance did in the Kasumi dlc..



either way, looking forward to LotSB

[Jade5233]

This is really great. I'm happy for the Liara fan and I"m excited to get to play this in the near future.



BioWare: Please, Please, Please make some DLC for the VS--the other ME1 LI's at some point, too!

[Halo Quea]

Massreaper wrote...

I;m wondering what is 'intel center'?Any suggestions?

I believe it will be an addition to the Normandy, with Liara perhaps commanding it from a console on the CIC.   Or it could be an expanded area on the ship, we may even have to scan and mine for the materials to build it.

Others think it's just going to be the Liara's base of Operations on Illium after she presumably takes the Shadow Brokers place.  But that doesn't sound like an addition to me.

[Wut555]

Don't know why people are raging so much over Liara's sudden personality change, it's completely realistic. What with Shepard dying, and the shadow broker essentially trying to kill shepard again (by preventing his rebirth) and her only other friend being captured by the broker it makes sense for her to become a bit darker. Life can be cruel and that with time can change anyone. The darker Liara also makes the dynamic between paragon Shepard and her more interesting. It also makes sense that Liara isnt willing to drop everything for Shepard, despite whatever relationship she is driven by anger, anger is hard to control and drives people. It also makes sense that despite his own relationship Shepard didnt have time to help Liara because he had more pressing matters with his species and the galaxy at stake. It invokes the Aeneas image what with Shepard being driven towards duty regardless of his feelings, he's a hero and being a hero he has to put other things beyond his interests. Also I don't think Shepard would want to bring someone he cares about on something called a SUICIDE MISSION. Which is why i really hope this is post me2 finale and starts bridging towards me3, maybe the broker has a deeper involvement to reapers than just the collectors, it would be cool hype.



Though bioware did mess up Shepard's reactions a bit. I lold so hard when after Liara poured her heart out to Shepard in guilt over giving his body to Cerebus, his happy response was simply K THX MY MISSION IMPORTANT BAI



I'm really hoping for 3 squadmates though, looking at the shepard, garrus, tali n liara pic

bring on dem epic fights!