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I'm not so sure. Sure, you'll be able to continue the romance, but I'm sure you'll still be away from her in a way. Who knows.


Yes, but what makes the Omega scene so poignant is that the romance is in a troubled state.  I'm thinking this DLC will at least get the romance headed back in the 'non-troubled' direction, so the Omega scene just won't mean as much, IMO.


Omega scene? Now I feel stupid. What's "the Omega scene"?

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Luc0s wrote...

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I'm not so sure. Sure, you'll be able to continue the romance, but I'm sure you'll still be away from her in a way. Who knows.


Yes, but what makes the Omega scene so poignant is that the romance is in a troubled state.  I'm thinking this DLC will at least get the romance headed back in the 'non-troubled' direction, so the Omega scene just won't mean as much, IMO.


Omega scene? Now I feel stupid. What's "the Omega scene"?


Shepard stares at a picture of Liara/Ashley/Kaidan (if loyal...)

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Oh that. I don't see what's so special about that scene. Personally I found it a little bit shallow, stange even. Because Shepard doesn't seem to give a flippin f- about Liara/Ashley/Kaiden in ME2.

Modifié par Luc0s, 28 août 2010 - 10:14 .


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Yes, but what makes the Omega scene so poignant is that the romance is in a troubled state.  I'm thinking this DLC will at least get the romance headed back in the 'non-troubled' direction, so the Omega scene just won't mean as much, IMO.


This. The implication is that this DLC will allow players to reaffirm and reconcile the romance with Liara at some point, and allow players to resolve any perceived issues or problems present in this "rocky second chapter" to the relationship. Considering this, and the likelihood that the romance will be reconciled with both Shepard and Liara reaffirming their love for each other, the pre-Omega 4 Relay picture scene would make little sense if Shepard has fully reunited with Liara once again, and is more comfortable and content with her relationship with Liara.

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Oh that. I don't see what's so special about that scene. Personally I found it a little bit shallow. Stange even, because Shepard doesn't seem to give a flippin f- about Liara/Ashley/Kaiden in ME2.


I did not find it shallow in the slightest. Considering it's occupying the instance where the love scene is usually present, I actually found the scene to be one of the most emotionally resonant and evocative scenes in the entire game. There are very few instances of Shepard displaying any degree of emotional vulnerability in ME2, and I found it quite refreshing to be able to witness something like that, and see my Shepard pine after the woman that she loves and cherishes, but is sadly torn asunder from.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Oh that. I don't see what's so special about that scene. Personally I found it a little bit shallow. Stange even, because Shepard doesn't seem to give a flippin f- about Liara/Ashley/Kaiden in ME2.


I did not find it shallow in the slightest. Considering it's occupying the instance where the love scene is usually present, I actually found the scene to be one of the most emotionally resonant and evocative scenes in the entire game. There are very few instances of Shepard displaying any degree of emotional vulnerability in ME2, and I found it quite refreshing to be able to witness something like that, and see my Shepard pine after the woman that she loves and cherishes, but is sadly torn asunder from.


It's the only time in the game Shep's not all ':mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow:'

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

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Oh that. I don't see what's so special about that scene. Personally I found it a little bit shallow. Stange even, because Shepard doesn't seem to give a flippin f- about Liara/Ashley/Kaiden in ME2.


I did not find it shallow in the slightest. Considering it's occupying the instance where the love scene is usually present, I actually found the scene to be one of the most emotionally resonant and evocative scenes in the entire game. There are very few instances of Shepard displaying any degree of emotional vulnerability in ME2, and I found it quite refreshing to be able to witness something like that, and see my Shepard pine after the woman that she loves and cherishes, but is sadly torn asunder from.


Don't get me wrong, the scene on it's own is not bad or strange. But in the ME2 context it's just weird. In the entire game Shepard doesn't show any emotion about/towards his/her LI. The only emotions Shepard shows towards his/her LI in ME2 is anger when you pick the Renegade dialogue options. It doesn't seem that Shepard cares even the slightest bit about his/her LI in ME2.
Then before the SM, all of the sudden, Shepard seems to care? I don't buy it.

Modifié par Luc0s, 28 août 2010 - 10:25 .


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maybe it wold be a good idea to go to EA's chat room and ask them about some content of the DLC.



BTW good thing that it will not be available in polish...hehe...polish versions of the games are so gay. No matter the actors they hire, it always suxx. For example in ME1 you could get on some boxes pressing the command "Mount". This could be translated into polish as "a mountain" or a verb "to mount". Obviously it should be translated as a verb, but nooooo......Some genius took a dictionary and put the first thing he encountered, i.e. a mountain.



There should be a ban for Poland on making their own language vesions. Good for you Bioware.



PS. I'm from Poland

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leeboi2 wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Oh that. I don't see what's so special about that scene. Personally I found it a little bit shallow. Stange even, because Shepard doesn't seem to give a flippin f- about Liara/Ashley/Kaiden in ME2.


I did not find it shallow in the slightest. Considering it's occupying the instance where the love scene is usually present, I actually found the scene to be one of the most emotionally resonant and evocative scenes in the entire game. There are very few instances of Shepard displaying any degree of emotional vulnerability in ME2, and I found it quite refreshing to be able to witness something like that, and see my Shepard pine after the woman that she loves and cherishes, but is sadly torn asunder from.


It's the only time in the game Shep's not all ':mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow:'

There's alot of parts he is not :mellow:, even in ME he :mellow: alot. Both games have alot of parets where Shepard shows emotion.

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Don't get me wrong, the scene on it's own is not bad or strange. But in the ME2 context it's just weird. In the entire game Shepard doesn't show any emotion about/towards his/her LI. The only emotions Shepard shows towards his/her LI in ME2 is anger when you pick the Renegade dialogue options. It doesn't seem that Shepard cares even the slightest bit about his/her LI in ME2.
Then before the SM, all of the sudden, Shepard seems to care? I don't buy it.


Blame Shepard's lack of emotion on Bioware's poor way of creating a troubled second act so you want to cheat on the ME1 LI.

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vrey off topic for me today but i did see a post that said how can we love liara so much and now im here to awnser that question... Now bioware have made awsome RPGs in the past but what made them the best was there abillity to get people to relly get attached to the characters and to make them have personalitys of there own and they have sucsseded from the start begining with KOTOR all the way to ME2-DA:O now please think about how much u can relly get to know the in game characters and how much u love the game for it.... now that my friends is pure win

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leeboi2 wrote...

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Luc0s wrote...

Oh that. I don't see what's so special about that scene. Personally I found it a little bit shallow. Stange even, because Shepard doesn't seem to give a flippin f- about Liara/Ashley/Kaiden in ME2.


I did not find it shallow in the slightest. Considering it's occupying the instance where the love scene is usually present, I actually found the scene to be one of the most emotionally resonant and evocative scenes in the entire game. There are very few instances of Shepard displaying any degree of emotional vulnerability in ME2, and I found it quite refreshing to be able to witness something like that, and see my Shepard pine after the woman that she loves and cherishes, but is sadly torn asunder from.


It's the only time in the game Shep's not all ':mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow::mellow:'


Hey, sometimes Shepard is '<_<'. And lets not forget about this:
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LordMarrick wrote...

vrey off topic for me today but i did see a post that said how can we love liara so much and now im here to awnser that question... Now bioware have made awsome RPGs in the past but what made them the best was there abillity to get people to relly get attached to the characters and to make them have personalitys of there own and they have sucsseded from the start begining with KOTOR all the way to ME2-DA:O now please think about how much u can relly get to know the in game characters and how much u love the game for it.... now that my friends is pure win

THIS

Even though Neverwinter Nights 1 is a few years old by now, sometimes I still take out the DVD and install the main game, Shadows of Undrentide and Hordes of the Underdark, just because of the way the story unfolds.
A story that really pulls you in has always been the staple of all games that BioWare graced us with over the years, and recent advancements in technology have also enabled them to deliver a much more compelling experience due to the characters being able to actually show the emotions on their face.

This is why BioWare rules supreme over all these other Developers, because as far as storytelling is concerned, only one Dev can come close to BioWare, and that is Bungie.

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bungie and capcom with the DMC saga

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Shepard is an elite soldier he has to be emotional calm even under fire.
And think of his situation being resurrected by one of his former enemies, only to find out that the life he lived vanished and that he is the only one who can stop the collectors/reapers from wiping out mankind.
Considering that Shepard has to learn to know a new ship with a mostly new crew, has to collecting a special team for the suicide mission, has to deal with the personal problems of the team members, and has to collect resources from remote worlds, it's a wonder that he finds the time to visit a bar or to have a romantic relationship at all.
Shepard has seen to much to be emotional upset!:mellow:

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Niemroth wrote...

Shepard is an elite soldier he has to be emotional calm even under fire.
And think of his situation being resurrected by one of his former enemies, only to find out that the life he lived vanished and that he is the only one who can stop the collectors/reapers from wiping out mankind.
Considering that Shepard has to learn to know a new ship with a mostly new crew, has to collecting a special team for the suicide mission, has to deal with the personal problems of the team members, and has to collect resources from remote worlds, it's a wonder that he finds the time to visit a bar or to have a romantic relationship at all.
Shepard has seen to much to be emotional upset!:mellow:


And still. They couldn't just add ONE scene to show that Shepard isn't just some robot in disguise? You know, like ME1 did with the locker scene? I get that Shepard is a tough cookie who doesn't break at the first sign of trouble, but atleast have a scene dedicated to show Shepard's human side.

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Lizardviking wrote...

Niemroth wrote...

Shepard is an elite soldier he has to be emotional calm even under fire.
And think of his situation being resurrected by one of his former enemies, only to find out that the life he lived vanished and that he is the only one who can stop the collectors/reapers from wiping out mankind.
Considering that Shepard has to learn to know a new ship with a mostly new crew, has to collecting a special team for the suicide mission, has to deal with the personal problems of the team members, and has to collect resources from remote worlds, it's a wonder that he finds the time to visit a bar or to have a romantic relationship at all.
Shepard has seen to much to be emotional upset!:mellow:


And still. They couldn't just add ONE scene to show that Shepard isn't just some robot in disguise? You know, like ME1 did with the locker scene? I get that Shepard is a tough cookie who doesn't break at the first sign of trouble, but atleast have a scene dedicated to show Shepard's human side.


That was the joker interrupt one right?

Modifié par annihilator27, 28 août 2010 - 10:59 .


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annihilator27 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Niemroth wrote...

Shepard is an elite soldier he has to be emotional calm even under fire.
And think of his situation being resurrected by one of his former enemies, only to find out that the life he lived vanished and that he is the only one who can stop the collectors/reapers from wiping out mankind.
Considering that Shepard has to learn to know a new ship with a mostly new crew, has to collecting a special team for the suicide mission, has to deal with the personal problems of the team members, and has to collect resources from remote worlds, it's a wonder that he finds the time to visit a bar or to have a romantic relationship at all.
Shepard has seen to much to be emotional upset!:mellow:


And still. They couldn't just add ONE scene to show that Shepard isn't just some robot in disguise? You know, like ME1 did with the locker scene? I get that Shepard is a tough cookie who doesn't break at the first sign of trouble, but atleast have a scene dedicated to show Shepard's human side.


What scene was that again?


The locker scene? It's the one that plays just after the Normandy SR-1 lockdown. And if you had a romance going on, then it's there they go in and tell Shepard not to give up.

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Lizardviking wrote...

annihilator27 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Niemroth wrote...

Shepard is an elite soldier he has to be emotional calm even under fire.
And think of his situation being resurrected by one of his former enemies, only to find out that the life he lived vanished and that he is the only one who can stop the collectors/reapers from wiping out mankind.
Considering that Shepard has to learn to know a new ship with a mostly new crew, has to collecting a special team for the suicide mission, has to deal with the personal problems of the team members, and has to collect resources from remote worlds, it's a wonder that he finds the time to visit a bar or to have a romantic relationship at all.
Shepard has seen to much to be emotional upset!:mellow:


And still. They couldn't just add ONE scene to show that Shepard isn't just some robot in disguise? You know, like ME1 did with the locker scene? I get that Shepard is a tough cookie who doesn't break at the first sign of trouble, but atleast have a scene dedicated to show Shepard's human side.


What scene was that again?


The locker scene? It's the one that plays just after the Normandy SR-1 lockdown. And if you had a romance going on, then it's there they go in and tell Shepard not to give up.


Didnt edit In time lol, I remember now. Should be more of that in ME3. Hopefully Liara wont be all monotoned in this dlc lol

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Luc0s wrote...

Hey, sometimes Shepard is '<_<'. And lets not forget about this:


I wish I could forget about it.

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jlb524 wrote...

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But then that means you won't be seeing Liara till after you beat the game for all playthroughs, and when you do get her, there's nothing to do.


You could save all the N7 missions, plus DLC missions like Overlord until after LotSB.  Plus, there will be more DLC in the future. 


All that, assuming she stays as squadmate or at least with more interaction options on Illium or other hub world after LotSB. We can hope, sure... But I don't see that happening. Too good to be true

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

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Yes, but what makes the Omega scene so poignant is that the romance is in a troubled state.  I'm thinking this DLC will at least get the romance headed back in the 'non-troubled' direction, so the Omega scene just won't mean as much, IMO.


This. The implication is that this DLC will allow players to reaffirm and reconcile the romance with Liara at some point, and allow players to resolve any perceived issues or problems present in this "rocky second chapter" to the relationship. Considering this, and the likelihood that the romance will be reconciled with both Shepard and Liara reaffirming their love for each other, the pre-Omega 4 Relay picture scene would make little sense if Shepard has fully reunited with Liara once again, and is more comfortable and content with her relationship with Liara.


Dood!  Your sig is epic!!  =]

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Dood!  Your sig is epic!!  =]


Y thank u! Your's is also quite lovely! :D

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There should be a code or law where you do not announce new DLC for your video game unless you are releasing it within two weeks time. That way fans do not have to keep checking back to see if the DLC has been released yet only to discover nothing's changed.

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silverhammer08 wrote...

LordMarrick wrote...

vrey off topic for me today but i did see a post that said how can we love liara so much and now im here to awnser that question... Now bioware have made awsome RPGs in the past but what made them the best was there abillity to get people to relly get attached to the characters and to make them have personalitys of there own and they have sucsseded from the start begining with KOTOR all the way to ME2-DA:O now please think about how much u can relly get to know the in game characters and how much u love the game for it.... now that my friends is pure win

THIS

Even though Neverwinter Nights 1 is a few years old by now, sometimes I still take out the DVD and install the main game, Shadows of Undrentide and Hordes of the Underdark, just because of the way the story unfolds.
A story that really pulls you in has always been the staple of all games that BioWare graced us with over the years, and recent advancements in technology have also enabled them to deliver a much more compelling experience due to the characters being able to actually show the emotions on their face.

This is why BioWare rules supreme over all these other Developers, because as far as storytelling is concerned, only one Dev can come close to BioWare, and that is Bungie.


I totally disagree with that. I'd say Bioware is my favorite, but second would have to be Blizzard, because I have never even heard of a bad Blizzard game. I think Bungie would be pretty far down my list. Did you play ODST?