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[Pinkflamingo22]

My first time playing EVERYONE survived. It really wasn't hard at all.

However I decided that I wouldn't keep that file, simply because its not a good story for everyone to survive the "suicide mission". After all it's supposed to be the single most dangerous mission ever, even Garrus says deaths are guarenteed.

So I always kill Zaeed and let half my crew die, i feel this is better story telling, however I dometimes don't feel its enbough. My squad is still 11 people, and when you can only bring 3 with you, its seems a bit much.


My question is; in your main playthrough, the one you want to carry over, the one with the story you love, who lives and who dies? Do you agree for the sake of telling a good story some people have to die?

[Felhand]

My first time through (Veteran Sentinel) Zaeed died and Miranda died, Not a terrible loss for me as I had 'just' picked up zaeed as DLC and never liked miranda, haughty cerberus wench that she is. I'll probably carry that one over, though I very recently finished a Insanity game (For the first time, as a engineer for the first time and with a Perfect Paragon run, also a first time.) and was pretty pleased with how the story rolled out with that.

[Spartas Husky]

My first, time, I played it with smarts, but Bioware has none. So Zaeed, died .



Since he is the "no leader" thing so. yeah, he died, and coz of it, mordin also died.



FYI: that career was erased long ago



So my main one is my 2nd playthrough where everyone survived.... even jack.

[Spartas Husky]

Alathin wrote...

My first playthrough my favourite charecter died, Zaeed. I thought he would be a good leader with all the combat experience he has seen. I guess I was wrong.

yes your wrong... but not ebcause you think Zaeed is not a team leader, but because Bioware is not aware that HE IS a good team leader.

So, your wrong... about Bioware

.....

Still Wished I could have used Mordin as team leader... he is a spec ops soldier... more so than most so.... but still Garrus kicks ass

Modifié par Spartas Husky, 23 août 2010 - 07:15 .

[Pinkflamingo22]

but do you agree for the sake of a good story some people have to die?

[MrnDvlDg161]

I spoiled my self and took calculated endings

A Miranda li / Everyone alive save.

A Tali li/Everyone alive save.

A Pro-Liara/Everyone alive save.

But my first run through which is also saved is  Tali unforutnatly dying --- therefore also being the Li --- Shepard is single by default!  lol.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

the only person that usually die is jack (unloyal)... but i manage to get a no man left behind/everyone survives thing eventually... not once but twice.

dialogue (paragon speeches FTW), task designation, and squad assignment are likely significant factors. 

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 23 août 2010 - 07:26 .

[Khayness]

If only there would be a just Shepard survives option, I'd go for it. But I keep everyone alive.

[MrnDvlDg161]

I would have to disagree, you can have a lot of combat experince under your belt but that doesn't mean you'd be a good leader...it just means you happened to survived and lived to tell about it.



Remember Zheed may have had combat experience but he is also a gun for hire --- his loyalty ends when the credits do, so at some point, if a mission ever should be more trouble than its worth, he would most likely choose self preservation.

[ShadoX_LV]

Everyone but Jacob.. Wish I hadn't listened to him when he volunteered. I went back and fixed that mistake after remembering that I could actually save all of them.. Only problem is.. I'm not sure which save I'm going to take to ME3. I wanna stick to my decisions, but I also would like to have all of my crew in ME3.

[Exile Isan]

In my first playthrough, which may be the one I carry over, nobody died. Nobody has ever died in any my playthroughs. Mainly because I don't want to "calculate" causlties if you know what I mean.

[chfdz]

Pinkflamingo22 wrote...

but do you agree for the sake of a good story some people have to die?

I think the first time playing through both games (ME 2 & 3) should be done without meddling with who should die and who shouldn't - I'll just import my first ever playthrough bacause I want the story to be the consequence of my actions - before I knew how to make people survive etc. It was based purely on my instinct and judgement, without the knowledge from forums guides etc. so the experience in ME 3 will be truly mine - and therefore a good one. I suprisingly pulled off everyone survives scenerio on my first playthrough, wasn't actually hard to do - and I stick to that, but I would probably stick to every outcome of my first playthrough (exept Shepard dies of course) for the same reason. Meddling with the death of certain charcters will be good for multiple playthroughs - better replayability and who knows, maybe a more compelling story , but I'll check how that works with my 2nd or 3rd ME3 playthrough - not sooner.

As for Zaeed  - I thought about making him the leader too - but I figured - he's a merc, he knows how to get the job done, but he won't actually pay attention to casualties - in all those memories of his past missions almost everyone exept him seemed to die - so I chose Garrus instead - he knows a lot about tactics and actally led a team of his own, and would probably whiped out most of the scum from Omega if it wasn't for the betrayal of one of his people. Guess it was a good enough logic.

Modifié par chfdz, 23 août 2010 - 08:04 .

[Nightwriter]

In my main playthrough I'm going to carry over, everyone will survive. In every playthrough I have, everyone has survived.

[Marzillius]

Everyone survived in my canon playthrough.

[Lewie]

In ME3 if there is more as they put it 'heart wrenching choices' then obviously some will die but will our chars really all carry over? That might not happen. Im going to keep 3 saves lol of playthroughs i liked and see what happens. When people die yes, it adds to the story and drama. I don't like Zaeed i wanted to put him through the garbage vent lol.

[I_am_a_Spoon]

Everyone but Thane.

Jason described the "duct" mission as suicidal, so I figured I'd send the squadmember with the shortest life expectancy. Besides, he's an expert when it comes to crawling through tunnels.

Well, he was...      

Modifié par I_am_a_Spoon, 23 août 2010 - 08:29 .

[That One Display Name]

I only kept Jack and Grunt alive. I like shotguns I made a playthrough where everyone survived and found it to be extremely boring. I only did that for the achievement.

[AntiChri5]

Everyone survives every one of my playthroughs.

[gi0m]

First time, everyone survived. I want to make someone die now, but i just can't let this happen. I'm commander Shepard for christ sake!

[CroGamer002]

Cannon
Male/Paragon/Soldier/Colonist/War Hero/Mario Shepard
All survivors. Whole abducted crew.

Female/Paragon/Vanguard/Spacer/Sole Survivor/Maria Shepard
Only Garrus( LI), Tali, Legion, Grunt and Mordin. Whole abducted crew.

Male/Renegade/Infiltrator/Earthborn/Ruthless/Bruce Shepard
All but Morinth. Whole abducted crew.

Female/Paragade/Adept/Earthborn/War Hero/Mei Shepard
All but Thane( LI) and Jack. Half of abducted crew dead.

Male/Paragon/Engineer/Colonist/Sole Survivor/Tom Shepard
All but Jacob and Zaeed. Whole abducted crew survived.

Female/Renegade/Sentinel/Spacer/Ruthless/Venus Shepard
All but Morinth, Jacob( LI), Kasumi and Zaeed. Only Dr. Chakwas lives.

Modifié par Mesina2, 23 août 2010 - 08:40 .

[PWENER]

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ALWAYS!!!

[XCPTNL]

Everybody always lives. I don't care about NPCs and have no problem with shooting everybody in this game - but as far as my crew goes, they all live. What kind of commander would I be if somebody died? I might be an **** to everybody else in this game but I usually care about my crew.

[Spartas Husky]

Pinkflamingo22 wrote...

but do you agree for the sake of a good story some people have to die?

Luck... that is all there is. And since there is no luck in math... then no... all can survive.

yes, sometimes spec ops suffer loses, but alot of the times they also come.... well not unharmed per say... but all alive.

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

I would have to disagree, you can
have a lot of combat experince under your belt but that doesn't mean
you'd be a good leader...it just means you happened to survived and
lived to tell about it.

Remember Zheed may have had combat
experience but he is also a gun for hire --- his loyalty ends when the
credits do, so at some point, if a mission ever should be more trouble
than its worth, he would most likely choose self preservation.

I agree, combat experience doesn't necessarily translate to leadership potential.... but I think, guns for hire usually have an escape plan... but the escape plan is a ship of someone else, your escape plan is your buddies... at some point Zaeed realized... I might have been payed alot, but creds dont work, in the middle of the galactic core.

if it was just a normal gun for hire.... and lets say, like Oblivion.. and you just go into some hotel and you rely on the merc.. yeah the merc can just run away, or hide... but in the middle of the collector base, I dont think that applies.

Could be wrong, but, IMHO the moment a Merc, agreed to go where nobody has returned from...makes his "merc" status a little odd.

yes he is still getting paid of course but, duno.

[Zulu_DFA]

Pinkflamingo22 wrote...

but do you agree for the sake of a good story some people have to die?

Yes.

My main and only playthrough to be imported in the "3" is quite close to Ecael's "worst playtrough".

[Cheese Elemental]

Everyone. This is my pure Paragon playthrough where everything's sunshine and roses.

My second import, however, will be my Paragon playthrough where only Tali, Garrus and Legion survived. For a touch of irony, the former is a Sole Survivor and the latter is a War Hero.