I actually don't find it shocking that Miranda sides with you against Cerberus. If you talk to her <3 to <3(I have a femme shep so not romancing her) she expresses amazement that the mission is going so well, because Cerberus operations never go so well. I tell her that it's because it's a Shepard mission, NOT a Cerberus mission. This opens the way to question her about where she stands on certain Cerberus actions from ME1 and Jack. She admits what happened to Jack is wrong, and she also indicates that Cerberus was clueless about certain things (the rachni, the thorian).
In other conversations, you learn that part of her loyalty to Cerberus is based on them helping her to escape from her father, and them giving her a chance to prove her worth, given that she's hung up on the genetic advantages given to her. Paraphrasing Abigail Adams, but it would have been "unpardonable for her to be a blockhead," after everything Mr. Lawson did to her, so in her mind she's supposed to be elite. She's jealous that Mordin worked with equals, and that Shepard is better than she, even without the genetic tailoring. If you take the paragon options in the conversation then it makes sense for Miranda to rethink where she really stands. I think she's a cheerleader because she thinks Cerberus is all she has, and Shepard gets her to rethink that notion. She's smart, so she ought to think about why Cerberus missions consistently fail and a Shepard mission does not.
If Miranda thinks about the thorian mission, and the reaper IFF mission, and she is wise, she has to agree that giving TIM the base is a bad idea. Think about it, Cerberus sent the original reaper base team to the dead reaper, and TIM was not shocked by their indoctrination (according to the mission summary). There is nothing that stops reaper indoctrination,
EXCEPT for the thorian, and Shepard was obliged to destroy the thorian because of
Cerberus.
Jacob was not a loyal Cerberus person, he was actually more mercenary than that: they were out to get the reapers, the Alliance wasn't, so he signed up with Cerberus. He's on the side of whoever is fighting the good fight, and conversations with him indicate that he doesn't like Cerberus, or trust them; his relationship with them is strictly about the greater good.
At first I too wondered if the Collector Base decision would turn out similar to the Connor/demon or the Bhelen/Harrowmont decision. Consider that with Connor, you only learn that there's a way to save him if you let Jowan free. However, Alistair, the good character, argues against his freedom and Morrigan, witch of questionable morals, argues that you set him free.
If you attempt to curry favor with the good characters, you may end up making the tragic choice (I'm not sure, since my Wardens are always independent and go with their guts and free him). If you trust your friendship with Jowan, you get the good ending, in spite of the objections of the good character. If you listen to the "nice" characters in Orzammar, you might go with Harrowmont, especially since the Bhelen supporters are so repulsive.
You have to actually pay more attention to what Bhelen/Harrowmont actually stand for in order to realize that you need to ignore the nice people. Seeing past the nice characters and looking at the big picture is the only way to get the good endings in both scenarios. That's two instances where Bioware "punishes" you with a bad result if you try to be "nice" or win popularity contests. At least in DA:O strategic thinking and paying attention to the world in which you "lived" paid off, failure to pay attention resulted in unhappy endings (see the elven fangirls upset about Alistair breaking up with them. Duh).
If Bioware continues the "reward you for paying attention" streak, then I think ME3 won't punish you for listening to your allies this time around.
Modifié par Elana Eden, 26 août 2010 - 02:59 .
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... If you think you are doing the correct thing and if you have reasons to back your actions.... thats it!
